Valve Scoops A.S.S???
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Topic: Valve Scoops A.S.S???
Posted By: adambomb
Subject: Valve Scoops A.S.S???
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 8:21pm
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Hi all,
Just reading on another forum that Dillijas 'Valve' sound system uses PD1850 A.S.S loaded scoops.
Is this True? Tony?
Cheers,
Adam.
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 10:06pm
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I heard dillinja say that he built the whole rig himself, that could be more Valve related bullsh*t though. ------------- 
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Posted By: adambomb
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 10:32pm
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I read a later post after I found that one... was half right.
Apparently he used to use A.S.S scoops... but since built his own (probably copies of the A.S.S I would guess)... all 1850 loaded apparently.. with 1550s for upper bass.
It may be a cack system over all (never heard it myself, but the reading I find on it is enough to tell me what to expect), but 56 PD1850 loaded scoops in one room... that's some kinda record and it's got to be heavy!
Gotta respect the marketing effort tho! (if not the actual rig).
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 11:20pm
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Well I had to jump in here. I was on way to 02 arena for a meet today and was running early. had taken the long way round to kill some time. While I was going through Charlton I thought I'd pay my old mate Karl a visit. Unfortuntely he was not there. So I left. and carried on down the road. And here you are talking about him on the day. Regarding the scoops. He did have our scoops and 2x15 upper bass cabs and modified MX600 cabs with Tweeters down the middle and our SDJ monitors. He does change things around a bit so who knows. And here's a photo of the mid hi cabs.
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Posted By: adambomb
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 12:14am
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Well, I wasn't expecting that!
I do love your MX cabs.. the 600s... but more the 450s (is that right? the single horn loaded 12")... just wich my pocket stretched that far
 maybe one day... (that's if the S/H prices for A.S.S don't start going up now!).As an aside.. I don't know if i posted it publicly... but just to let everyone know... the SP5s I got from you... DAAMMN! good stuff, touch of EQ and almost a perfectly flat response (the best I have seen I think)... and sooo loud, I'm thinking the SP5s and apair of X1s could do up to about 200 peeps... brilliant! and clear!
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Posted By: Calculus
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 5:37pm
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saw valve a week ago... apear to be ass scoops still.....
but with funktion one mid/tops unfortunately...
seemed to be loud but not very low.. and a bit harsh on the tops... ------------- Always a compromise, You can't have everything... Where would you put it all. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 7:27pm
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yeah theyve been hiring fk1 stuff for a bout 2 or more yearsnow. they did a show down near us about a year ago, and not a single piece of stuff wasnt either borrowed fk1 or ass. and was being run badly! ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Calculus
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 8:14pm
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so do they "borrow" the bass section aswell as the tops or just the fk1 ------------- Always a compromise, You can't have everything... Where would you put it all. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 10:14pm
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dunno, but when they were down this way half the scoops didnt work, i do believe they were theyr own though ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: mattd
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 3:53pm
| i saw there rig a few times long before i was into pro audio equitment, but still thought it sounded pretty wank at the time. they didnt have f1 then though i dont think |
Posted By: YoungBlood
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 3:56pm
I read somewhere he bought 4 ASS originals, and erm, made the rest. ------------- "chyll wynstan.." |
adambomb wrote:Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 6:35pm
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He bought a lot more than 4 scoops. Chinese whispers at work. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 9:01pm
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Do they actually use valve amplifiers to power the rig or is that just what they call it? ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 11:35pm
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No valve amps just conventional amps. Crest last time I looked. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:30am
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Thought as much! so really the valve rig isn't much different to any other apart from its size? ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:55am
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and the fact that most dont get so over hyped to people who dont know anything, alot of theyre core audience are a bunch of rude boys who think that soundlabs are cool, so a gert big stack of say 12 cheaply loaded 18" scoops and 8 soundlabs would be theyre idea of heaven..... so a stack of ass scoops and some hire fk1 mid tops should go down a treat......... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: WhiteElephantSounds
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 3:02pm
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Valves now running of lab gruppens, don’t know if they are there own or hired in. They seemed to have about 6 amp racks and every one had a unused standby amp at the top! Was not overly impressed when I heard them in When standing in front of around 20 ASS scoops and 10 Res5s you shouldn’t be able to breathe let alone chat calmly about the positives and negatives of the smoking ban! Iration steppas on the other hand with 8 Turbomax loaded scoops and 6 reflex double 15" midtops had the bass presence that valve seemed to lack. Although I bet marks recone pile at the end of the night was much bigger!
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 6:06pm
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Mark wouldn't have a recone pile. He runs the 8 turbomax 1200s off 2 void infinite 8s, 4ohms a side. Works out at 1250w per driver, and you can't clip an infinite v2, so he's pretty much covered. If you've got a recone pile, you're doing something very very wrong!! ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: ToNy MoNtAnA
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 7:03pm
Loads of C.Audio too. Try and find the pic of that, got it somewhere on the hard drive. |
Posted By: WhiteElephantSounds
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 7:21pm
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I can tell you for a fact that he had a big recone pile! Fair enough there wassnt any turbomaxxs in that pile but he has been known to get over excited on a night and push things a bit to far.
Tom
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:53am
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So he's killing his mid-tops? Has he got rid of that numark amp he was using a few months ago? Would have thought someone with that much experience would know the limits of his system. We are talking about Mark Iration not Valve right? (No disrespect to the man, you all know I love Subdub!) ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: WhiteElephantSounds
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 4:11pm
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Yeah it looked like a 15s or possibly 12s that were the bulk of the recones, these could have been from the old system or other boxes as i cant imagine him shreading the new reflex boxs. Think that numark amp has been replaced with an infinate 6.
Yeah were talking about Iration, i think subdub has to be one of the best nights going for speaker geeks and dancing freaks alike! Allthough it has to be said i think his old system was alot more musical, those turbomaxx scoops are pure evil but seem to only produce one note.
Tom
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Posted By: minaximal
Date Posted: 14 November 2007 at 10:56pm
thats interesting. were the scoops originally good with 1850's or v1000? because as i said before, from my sims a cab originaly made for them will probably have massive ripples in response with a turbomax, but yes the tops of the peaks will be a little higher than with 1850's etc... whatever you prefer i guess ------------- Subs + Barges = :) http://www.metaacoustics.com" rel="nofollow - www.metaacoustics.com |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 5:07am
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1 note but still good after 4 shaves
Good marketing Fane. ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |