PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100
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Topic: PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100
Posted By: tweeter box
Subject: PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 1:34pm
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Just out of curiousity
Which driver do people think is better and your reasons why?
Lets say for example/comparison;
A) both to be used in a 18 standard EMINENCE scoop
B) sound quality
C) wattage
Why do alot of reggae sounds prefer the 1850??
------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
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Posted By: arxxx
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 1:47pm
| PD 1850 don't ask tech |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 2:33pm
Don't use eminence scoop.  Apparently TBX sound warmer and more musical,and 1850 just has Brutish SPL and takes more hammering. 1850 does drop silly deep in Shortman/ASS. Use scooper + V18-1000 ASS + 1850 Shortman + 1850 (or others  )If you had read scoop forum you would have found all this and much more. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
tweeter box wrote:Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 7:31pm
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If 1850 is more louder and out does the TBX then why is the TBX more expensive? surely there must be a reason for this? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 8:18pm
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there is more to a drivers price than just its out put, [or in that fact how good it sounds] what will ultimately affect the price of a loudspeaker driver is how much it cosats to manufacture and quite often how much it costs to get it from the point of manufacture to the customer... ------------- me so horny me love you long throw horn loaded for her pleasure |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 8:31pm
Ive heard that a B&C in an ASS MINI kicks sum serious ass!!  ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 6:35pm
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does anyone have further opinions on these 10+ years on? i have some 218's, wondering if i am to go the PD or b&c route...
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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 8:26pm
| What cab? What amps? What budget etc. |
Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 9:55pm
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218 bass reflex, bit like the martin S218 |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 11:22pm
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1850 is a horn driver, the tbx100 sounds good in reflex, never heard a good 1850 reflex box ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 8:39am
| Never used the 1850, but what is wrong with it in a BR cabinet? Has it to do with the dip around 50/60Hz due to the strong motor? Some EQ could fix that problem. |
Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:43am
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Ive no idea what stops the 1850 working in reflex boxes, but it doesn’t work well and has a decidedly wooden tone in all the cabs i have heard, one if the worst being the old CVA 1850 sub that many chain nightclubs were using in the 1990’s. Horrible things. I did attempt good sounding 1850 reflex a few times as i had 24 of them to hand at one point, but soon gave up, sold them and purchased colossus 18XB’s which made a much nicer, warmer, tuneful sound. For reflex buy the B&C. ------------- “The fact is this is about identifying what we do best and finding more ways of doing less of it better” |
Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:52am
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thanks guys, solid words here now just need to find someone selling some used b&c... can't afford new :(
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:56am
| yeah i had some of those cva boxes. put the 1850s in cubos, and put some 18xb in the cvas. all good. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:01am
Now in 2022, there are vastly superior drivers, than PD1850 and B&C 18TBX100. Only reason to use either of these drivers would be low cost, especially as PD1850 cannot be bought new. 18TBX100 is great in right reflex/horn cab, PD1850 is great in ASS and similar tight Scoops. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: sarsen1
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:13am
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I am still enjoying TBX100 in superscoop. Even used for live bands a few weekends ago and had various compliments on how clean the sound was (!) deffo not quite as brutal as PD/Void/new beefy B&C, 18sound etc but for little over £200 new can't complain. Pretty sure Martin used TBX in s218 so would make sense to go for those.
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:23am
PD1851 is probably my fav PD driver ever. I heard it works well in Superscooper 18. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |