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PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100

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Topic: PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100
Posted By: tweeter box
Subject: PD 1850 vs B&C TBX100
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 1:34pm
Just out of curiousity
 
Which driver do people think is better and your reasons why?
Lets say for example/comparison;
 
A) both to be used in a 18 standard EMINENCE scoop
 
B) sound quality
 
C) wattage
 
Why do alot of reggae sounds prefer the 1850??
 
 


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Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.



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Posted By: arxxx
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 1:47pm
PD 1850 don't ask tech 


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by tweeter box tweeter box wrote:

Just out of curiousity
 
Which driver do people think is better and your reasons why?
Lets say for example/comparison;
 
A) both to be used in a 18 standard EMINENCE scoop
 


Don't use eminence scoop. Dead

Apparently TBX sound warmer and more musical,and 1850 just has Brutish SPL and takes more hammering.

1850 does drop silly deep in Shortman/ASS.

Use scooper + V18-1000
ASS + 1850
Shortman + 1850 (or others Wink)

If you had read scoop forum you would have found all this and much more.


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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 7:31pm
If 1850 is more louder and out does the TBX then why is the TBX more expensive? surely there must be a reason for this?

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PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM.

Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.


Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 8:18pm
there is more to a drivers price than just its out put, [or in that fact how good it sounds] what will ultimately affect the price of a loudspeaker driver is how much it cosats to manufacture and quite often how much it costs to get it from the point of manufacture to the customer...

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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 15 November 2007 at 8:31pm
Ive heard that a B&C in an ASS MINI kicks sum serious ass!! Wink

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PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM.

Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.


Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 6:35pm
does anyone have further opinions on these 10+ years on?

i have some 218's, wondering if i am to go the PD or b&c route...


Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 8:26pm
What cab? What amps? What budget etc.


Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 9:55pm
218 bass reflex, bit like the martin S218



Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 17 October 2022 at 11:22pm
1850 is a horn driver, the tbx100 sounds good in reflex, never heard a good 1850 reflex box

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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 8:39am
Never used the 1850, but what is wrong with it in a BR cabinet? Has it to do with the dip around 50/60Hz due to the strong motor? Some EQ could fix that problem.


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:43am
Ive no idea what stops the 1850 working in reflex boxes, but it doesn’t work well and has a decidedly wooden tone in all the cabs i have heard, one if the worst being the old CVA 1850 sub that many chain nightclubs were using in the 1990’s. Horrible things.

I did attempt good sounding 1850 reflex a few times as i had 24 of them to hand at one point, but soon gave up, sold them and purchased colossus 18XB’s which made a much nicer, warmer, tuneful sound.

For reflex buy the B&C. 


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Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:52am
thanks guys, solid words here

now just need to find someone selling some used b&c... can't afford new :(


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 9:56am
yeah i had some of those cva boxes. put the 1850s in cubos, and put some 18xb in the cvas. all good.


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:01am
Originally posted by teeth teeth wrote:

does anyone have further opinions on these 10+ years on?

i have some 218's, wondering if i am to go the PD or b&c route...


Now in 2022, there are vastly superior drivers, than PD1850 and B&C 18TBX100.

Only reason to use either of these drivers would be low cost, especially as PD1850 cannot be bought new.

18TBX100 is great in right reflex/horn cab, PD1850 is great in ASS and similar tight Scoops.





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Posted By: sarsen1
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:13am
I am still enjoying TBX100 in superscoop. Even used for live bands a few weekends ago and had various compliments on how clean the sound was (!) deffo not quite as brutal as PD/Void/new beefy B&C, 18sound etc but for little over £200 new can't complain.

Pretty sure Martin used TBX in s218 so would make sense to go for those.


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 October 2022 at 11:23am
Originally posted by sarsen1 sarsen1 wrote:

I am still enjoying TBX100 in superscoop. Even used for live bands a few weekends ago and had various compliments on how clean the sound was (!) deffo not quite as brutal as PD/Void/new beefy B&C, 18sound etc but for little over £200 new can't complain.


PD1851 is probably my fav PD driver ever.

I heard it works well in Superscooper 18.




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