void infinate 8 v 2
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Topic: void infinate 8 v 2
Posted By: rocky
Subject: void infinate 8 v 2
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 1:26pm
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good day anyone testing one of these babies in 2 0hmns.are they the sh*t the they look to be on paper.i couldn't seen to find rog's take on them.any info would be great.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 1:58pm
Rog designed them, so I would say he rather likes them  .------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
rocky wrote:Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 3:02pm
| im in the same boat really, i want to know weather they can spank 4 pd186s per side at 2 ohms all night long playing subbass...if so then im interested |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 3:20pm
From what I've read & heard about these amps it should spank all them drivers quite easily. I heard it prefers 8 x 1000w - 1200w drivers on it
 Take a read through this...
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8686&PN=1 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8686&PN=1
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 12:18pm
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I've heard an inf 8 into 8 Turbomax 1200s @ 2ohms a side. It's actually scarey.
Plus you can't kill this thing. If you're using 186s you may want to be careful. The inf 8 can throw out just over 1000w per driver in this situation. ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 12:41pm
http://www.voidaudio.com/pdf/Infinite%207-8%20v2.pdf - http://www.voidaudio.com/pdf/Infinite%207-8%20v2.pdf Specification
3800/4 = 950W per driver (in theory), @ 4 drivers per channel (2ohm stereo) Also, some drivers are not quite 8ohms, so resulting load seen by amplifier will be less than 2ohms, incurring excessive current draw and amp heat build up. I think Rog said Amp is approx 85% efficient, so in certain situations Max current draw(7600W/0.85)/240V = approx 38 amps, So you are gonna need hefty, hefty power source to get anywhere near the full capability of this amp @ 2ohm stereo. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 3:51pm
Weight (kg) 39.5  plus Rog has said on this very forum that he was conservative with the power output.------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 4:55pm
When I said hefty power source, I meant 240V@32amps. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 7:53pm
Those maybe some of the reasons why Iration uses 2 Inf8's with 8 scoops!
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Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 12:56pm
| does he? i thought he ran all 8 off one? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 1:05pm
Rumour has it, he runs all 8x of 1x amp, and keeps other amp in "hot standby". Venues probably give him limited access to power sources, and so on average may only have 2x16amp supplies to run entire rig. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 2:08pm
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sometimes he plays with 3 stacks (like at the last U.O.D) but I'm pretty sure it's one stack per amp channel what ever the ocasion
In leeds subdub, he has all the power he wants and plenty left over for the guest sound system if one is playing
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 4:36pm
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I don't know if Mark always uses this configuration, but I have definitely seen it once. the current draw brag-o-meter peaked at 32A. I've seen him using 2 inf-8s as well. Didnt see the draws but am guessing he was running them into 4R / side. This way he can get a comfortable 1200W / Driver. Lev, I stand corrected. The West indian centre has 32A 3phase i think, So you're right. ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 7:55pm
Actually most bass/sub drivers will vary quite significantly over the passband, depending on the type of loading employed.
My subs are nominally 2 x 8R in parallel = 4R
However the box varies between 2.8R at 35hz to 8.6R at 67hz.
I'dsay that if you want to run subs hard off an amp at 2R then it really needs to be good into 1R as it WILL see loads like that. At moderate levels thats not so bad, but as you crank it up that becomes quite tough on the amp. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 8:34pm
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I reckon the infinite will take it. Remember, it's pretty much impossible to clip these things.
------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 29 November 2007 at 10:55pm
| I've run ours at 2 ohm loads, in fact last saturday it was doing 4 Punishers a side, barely hitting the 0dB light and still putting out daft amounts of sub. |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 10:25am
I beg to differ...
OK, my Infinite 8 is a Mk1, but it is dead....
In itself, not so much of an issue, but getting a timely response and fix has been... ------------- FUSHION SOUNDSYSTEM http://www.fushion.org.uk - www.fushion.org.uk |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 10:49am
I hear that If it is still under warranty, you call PAP and they send you replacement parts. Dont know about other scenarios. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 3:16pm
Sorry, should have made myself clear. I was talking about the Mk2, or V2, or w/e. The new one. Read some of the testing Rog did on this thing, It's on here somewhere. ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 5:05pm
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Any appliance/unit with electronic components can die!
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 5:24pm
Oh never mind... ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 6:00pm
| That was meant to be a joke Jhodas. It's just the way I read it & laughed to myself when I saw the words Kill & dead. It just reminded me of some of the dancehall clash talk. |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 11:29am
It isn't under warranty, but it is not that old...
Have you tried calling PAP recently?
Emails get a better response, but it originally failed (or was noticed to have failed) end of Sept...it took until the end of Oct for me to realise that I was going to be waiting a long time...
For me, as a small but professional operator, that sort of delay just to get parts is unacceptable. I cannot afford to hold spare amps just to cover the potential of not being able to get a prompt repair solution...
It is the sort of thing that I consider wen deciding on what equipment to purchase...
I was close to purchasing another Void Infinite 8 (they are mighty fine amps for the price)...However, I now will reconsider my position...
I have 5 QSC amps (2 x PLX3402 and 3 x RMX2450) and only one has had a problem and that was fixed out of warranty in less than 2 weeks from failure.
I have owned several C-Audio amps, too, and although they have failed they can usually be fixed while I wait at Harman...
I'm now considering a Powerlight or new PLX along with Lab Gruppen and FFA....
All have the weight advantage over the Void...All are more expensive but certainly the QSC is a known quantity when it comes to the service aspect.
Void have now said (again) that they will be sending me the spare module today so I wait with anticipation....
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:04pm
Did you have to pay for replacement part? Funny, I never have a problem getting thru, when I call. I still think phone call is better than email. However I think their phone network is computerised, so may have glitches now and then.
Which one? PL6, PL9, PL380? Do you know anyone selling PL9? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Insomnia
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:33pm
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think about it
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Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 12:33pm
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Probably be looking at a PL6 or PL380...PL9 is more than I need or want, in power terms....
I've seen s/h PL6 IIs for around £1500-2000 but have never seen a PL9 for sale... ------------- FUSHION SOUNDSYSTEM http://www.fushion.org.uk - www.fushion.org.uk |
Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 4:01pm
| can you hang 4 pd186s off each side of a ca18 with no problems? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 4:39pm
Nice one Steve, now the price is gonna go thru the roof.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 4:40pm
No. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 5:01pm
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well it isn't me bidding...
The CA18 ain't no Infinite 8 (IMHO) and I predict this will be £600-700 minimum at the close...
Today Void have been in touch and so long as I either take the amp there or find a way of packaging it up, they will fix it in-house and are lending me a V2 in the meantime...
So looks like it is getting sorted at the expense of a 120mile round trip... ------------- FUSHION SOUNDSYSTEM http://www.fushion.org.uk - www.fushion.org.uk |
Posted By: whitehousejamie
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 5:09pm
I'm not sure you'll want to give it back to them afterwards ------------- Lighting, sound & staging hire www.eventstore.co.uk www.pauljamespromotions.com |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 7:28pm
Drop it off in a hire van under an assumed name, run away to Europe
In all seriousness, some packing foam and a big enough box, plus £30 at Interparcel will get it there from anywhere in the country. Gotta be cheaper than petrol for the round trip? |
Posted By: boycey
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 9:22pm
i always found they seemed to keep funny hours- however i don't think i've ever not got through calling between 11 and 1 on a week day  ------------- the only thing more dangerous than a person who doesn't give a f**k is a person who gives a sh*t. |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 12:02pm
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well...if I don't wnt to give it back, I'm sure I can "do a deal" and end up with both...
it's a total (according to AutoRoute) of 186 miles....
186 miles is approx 7gals of fuel...
@ about £4.50/gal that is about £33 so about the same...
However, given that I'd have to go a pick the amp up from my repairer anyway which is a minimum 70miles I'm only doing an extra 120....That is LESS than a £30 shipping chargeplus I don't have a box or packing suitable for a partly dismantled 40kg item! ------------- FUSHION SOUNDSYSTEM http://www.fushion.org.uk - www.fushion.org.uk |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 12:47pm
Must be a coincidence! - That's the same hours you can get hold of Jah Tubbys in his studio.
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 11:29am
if he runs all 8 scoops of 1 V2 amp then what about the double boxes on top of the scoops?
i thought in 1 STACK the configuration would be like this;
4 scoops + 2 double boxes on top = 8 bass speakers running of 1 amp??
if 4 subs runs @ 2ohms then each set of 4 subs can be run of each channel of the amp cant they and isnt this what iration do? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 12:12pm
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what double boxes are you refering to?
Last 6/7 times I've seen iration he's be using new all in one boxes on top of the scoops and that was before brixton rec closed down (last year)
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Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 1:45pm
| yeah its changed since them tweeter box |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 2:01pm
| Yep, they changed long time ago! Although many prefer the older set up with the double 15''s above the scoops. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 2:40pm
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Oh! ok last time i saw iration was when they played with shanti in bristol in some church venue, so what does irations new set consist of?
i know hes using the turbomax drivers but what else?
why do u think he got rid of the double boxes? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 2:52pm
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ontop of his scoops he has those all in one boxs that shortman makes, they look like a tall version of an mt122. Inside they have a midbass driver, a mid driver and a compression driver. So the system still has a similar set up in the respect that its run 4 way but it just looks different, cant make my mid up weather i prefered the old set up but its pretty nice at the moment. It looked a lot more like a traditional 'sound system' before. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 3:42pm
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@ julz if you down visiting void at anypoint and your at a loose end for a few hours remember im only about 4/5 miles from their hq if you need somewher to hang out and chill or whatever..... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 5:03pm
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Jah tubby's made Iration's top end sound like mud on Saturday. I think the shortman tops sound a bit harsh, but then they have bullets in, and he's got piezos AND comps sitting on top.... overkill if you ask me.
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:14pm
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How much does a v2 amp go for? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:22pm
cheers, dude...I'll bear that in mind... last Saturday was all a bit of a rush-job...I had a gig to do in east London and had to get back for that... ------------- FUSHION SOUNDSYSTEM http://www.fushion.org.uk - www.fushion.org.uk |
Posted By: Peter Moller
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 2:39am
List price is around 1900 £ + VAT - Call your local Void dealer for a quote..
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