Here is the original EV T18 Plan!
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Topic: Here is the original EV T18 Plan!
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Subject: Here is the original EV T18 Plan!
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 12:28am
For The Last Time Its drawn off the scan that was on the forum a good wile ago. My Pleasure..... http://aggressiveaudio.weebly.com/electro-voice-t18.html" rel="nofollow - T18 PLAN ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
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Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:22pm
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And heres the MTL2. There were a couple of different versions from EV though with slightly different dimensions on the inside panels. This 1 is 1 of them. Enjoy http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://load.imageshack.us/">  |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:09pm
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The Dynacord F 12 CWH mid top cabinet 800Hz - 1200Hz crossover |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 2:20pm
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Something nice drawn up with the help of Mircea's plans... http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://load.imageshack.us/"> 
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Posted By: stephenwconcannon
Date Posted: 12 January 2008 at 4:23pm
| do the t18s sound better with the driver facing in or out ? i know by default they are in but has anyone tried the other option ? |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:45pm
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Driver Parameters for EV T18 / MTL2 Qts - 0.25 to 0.30 BL - 22 - 28 FS - Lower tha 40Hz odd EBP - Between 90 to 125 odd Basically, 18's Thats suitable for use in scoops thats "medium tight". That includes drivers like [the original EV DL-18MT and EVX-180] PD-186, PD-184, Fane Colossus 18XB, Fane Crescendo 18B, P-Audio WN-18S, P-Audio C18-650EL, P-Audio C18-600LF, P-Audio E18-600A(maybe), Eminece Sigma Pro 18-2, JBL 2242H, ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:47pm
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Ev Basically uses two kinds of woofers in their PRO sh*t. Most full ranges are TIGHT and most bass speakers are 'in the middle drivers'/medium tight or whatever
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Posted By: Jez_Ultra
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:40pm
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add RCF-L18P300 to your list of speakers. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 01 February 2008 at 1:09pm
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and 18-sound LW1400 best driver in that cab !!
http://imageshack.us/">  ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 01 February 2008 at 1:19pm
Why's that champ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
CHAMPION wrote:Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 01 February 2008 at 1:25pm
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Tryed and tested, not just loooking at specs. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 02 February 2008 at 1:21am
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for discussions' sake here's a simple question........... for effeciency wise meaning, not so much electronics is needed......and sonically best...... which is which? the MTL2 or the PLANARWAVE HORN???????  cheers...... ------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: Vinster
Date Posted: 20 May 2010 at 9:42pm
| I was looking to build the T18's... Its the first time i'm attempting this and i'm pleased to have come across the plan for it... But, I was wondering what the light green part inside the box was?... Is that where you're supposed to put the cotton wool type thingy lol?... I think it's polyester stuffing right?... Any help would be very much appreciated |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 22 May 2010 at 10:16pm
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Aaaah the T18. I happen to be building 4 at the moment, not because it's a could bass bin but because I live in Durban and we have the biggest Asian population outside of India and the Asian DJ eyes light up like christmas tree when they see them and being in hiring business good for me.
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Posted By: Vinster
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 7:11pm
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Wow 4 of those loaded with the right drivers would be the business lol... I have never made anything like this before and i just want to build 1 just for the sake of it lol. Since you mentioned your building some... I was wondering if you could tell me what material to put inside... I read up on this site and it said that glass fibre will break apart, so polyester stuffing should be used inside... The stuff that they use to stuff duvets... I think the material goes where they've shown the greyish outline in this plan, it looks like the handle covers a part of it. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 11:09am
------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 5:59pm
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Hi Vinster we get a greenish stuff out here thats made from recycled plastic cooldrink bottles it
really tough and is used insulation in roofs it's about 50mm thick so normally put 2 layers in and
attach it with a staple gun works perfectly. I will be loading my T18's wit Fane 18XB.
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Posted By: djyves
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 8:16pm
lots of brands have that kind of magnets 18 sound, yorkville, rcf, b&c, enz. ------------- "If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough!" |
Posted By: Vinster
Date Posted: 27 May 2010 at 1:10am
| Cheers for ur help bruce... I was looking to load my t18's with the pd186 driver. |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 27 May 2010 at 4:12pm
| pd 186 good choice unfortunately no agent for PD in RSA so I had to go with the Fane's |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 11:37am
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 11:46am
Bruce the Fane XB's sound very musical in these cabs, if thats the sort of sound your looking for, similar to the Electrovoice EVX-180B drivers ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 12:09pm
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RCF L18S800 801
Very smmoth, very loud
Don't underestimate these bins, size v output is very cool in, "Normal" music scenarios
You want DUB sound in a package nearly as small, then the Staip Micro 15" scoop is the one.
Not above 100hz though, whereas the t18 is happy much higher.
Merry Christmas ------------- It just is. |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 12:14pm
nothing like the sketch above  ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 1:42pm
Mikey that a copy of a copy which might have been a copy from China or is it Chana doesn´t matter anyway http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 1:56pm
Have 18 sound "copied" RMJs Millitary strength surround ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 2:39pm
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All chassis seam to come from China lev I doubt it very much RMJ has had a cast made. He would have bought chassis from China. The Void chassis is the old JBL chassis, all from China ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 2:48pm
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 3:01pm
Not the chassis Mykey, the green coloured driver surround. Before RMJ, pretty much all surrounds were paper. He was the first to use Millitary grade material, that just won't shear.. Then Fane used it (painted black on the front, under side left original tell tale colour as RMJs).  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 22 December 2011 at 4:08pm
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Having knocked up a few (lol) of these I can say that the scetch one is as I copied the original cab that my mate still owns.
Other one looks like a hybrid of the T18 and the RCF cab.
I own four with the RCF mentioned above, they are efficient, warm, can deal with 40hz and nice and easy to move.
They are one of the most successful speakers in marketing terms ever.
We really are going over old ground here though, not exactly fresh ideas. Oooh, but then neither is a scoop
Merry Christmas
------------- It just is. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 23 December 2011 at 4:01pm
dunno why but that doesnt actually correct to me  ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 23 December 2011 at 4:10pm
Roy has a special licence for the surround as it has to be approved by the MOD! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 23 December 2011 at 4:23pm
Same Ones .. +1 ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 23 December 2011 at 4:32pm
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What makes these types of material (dust cap, cone,edge surrounds, spider & adhesives) "Military Grade", is extensive MIL-STD Testing, im guessing it would be under, Environment & Reliability Testing .... Thats is anyone wanted a MIL-STD Loudspeaker http://www.weibull.com/knowledge/milhdbk.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.weibull.com/knowledge/milhdbk.htm
------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: cerwin4life
Date Posted: 16 October 2012 at 10:46am
| How would Cerwin Vega 118 EM performe in these boxes(THE T18) ?am just going to use them for home use:) |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 13 January 2013 at 10:45pm
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Like I said in 2008: "Its drawn off the scan that was on the forum a good wile ago." Opened up how many other T18 cabs since then and they all measure up to those drawings. I have also built some and they seem to sound the same as the oem cabs... Anyways... |
Posted By: midas
Date Posted: 08 April 2013 at 1:44pm
Just looking at the plan. Is the wadding the wrong way round? As in on the wrong plans? Shouldn't the lower section be on the front of the cab not the side? How do these cabs perform? As I need some subs and these look easier than X1's.
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Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 08 April 2013 at 1:55pm
| Take my word building the X1 is easier less angles to cut and it will go lower with the correct drivers |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 09 April 2013 at 12:28am
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if you want small compact then go for the cubo18 far better than the t18, x1's sound great in big venues, but they are no good in small venues..... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 23 January 2014 at 1:51pm
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Anybody tried the B&C 18tbx100's in these? ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 23 January 2014 at 3:11pm
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if not has anyone put the cab in hornresp? ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 8:27am
As the SOA ( Sons of Anarchy ) would say those is favour of the T18 meeting Mr Mayhem say aye
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 8:36am
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Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 9:27am
In your opinion  ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 9:32am
Lol! Uh oh, I'm just a humble diyer with a few of these looking to upgrade my p-audio drivers this year, I have 2 blown tbx drivers which I may recone or fit them all with pd186's. Been a steep learning curve this past year lol ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 9:42am
| Well to honest DJ Versitile I have built quite a few T18, my current pair are loaded with P-Audio E18 ELF they dont sound too bad, as we have the largest Indian population here in Durban outside India the Indian wedding DJ's love them so basically there reputation has proceeded them. I did build they X1 but they where huge and weighed a ton, so I sold them to a club. I will try the Cubo 18 to compare it against the T18 . But the best way of learning is throught trial and error, so enjoy. |
Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 24 January 2014 at 10:31am
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Thanks Bruce, I hear that the Cubo 18's sound better but have never heard for myself so will be interesting to hear what you have to say about them, I'll keep you posted on my progress! ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 6:15pm
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T18 with the right driver is a very usable box. Simple to build, Loud and can throw far in stacks. I love the 12 we have in the warehouse. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 05 March 2014 at 9:43pm
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Hugo have you tried a cubo 18 yet, on an a/b the cubo sounds a lot warmer, and hits low and hard, yet playing the notes.... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 06 March 2014 at 2:20am
Ive loaded Cubo 18's ext with the above mentioned driver with excellent results .
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Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 12 March 2014 at 1:05pm
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mmm.. time to upgrade then methinks! by the way if anyone has any i'm searching for a pair preferably unloaded for the summer :) ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 17 March 2014 at 8:41pm
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Haven't heard cubo's. I do still love their sound. I work with enough different bass rigs. They surprise me every time. Thats the T18's. |
Posted By: DJ-Versatile
Date Posted: 20 March 2014 at 8:49pm
I meant to ask you hugo what are yours loaded with, i've got some cash together and am looking at either the colossus xb's or pd 186, literally torn between the two!! ------------- If you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.... |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 18 April 2014 at 12:39pm
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They are EVX180 and DAS 18G loaded. I recently heard a 4stack loaded with cheap JB-Systems PWX 18-600 and, FU€K, that moved a lot of air. I could not believe it! Tight and controlled. I'm looking into them to see how long they last. We have 4 cabs loaded with them too now. Been 4 months and going strong. Gigging electronic parties flat out almost every weekend. |
Posted By: Motion54
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 9:32am
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What is the difference to T18's and SB180's? Also, what are the drawbacks of these designs? On paper, it states these can play upto 500hz. How true is this? |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 9:47am
| Very similar the dimensions for the 180 look different though also I doubt they will perform anywhere above 150Hz. PS Hugo I like your amp. Who made your pc boards ? |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 10:19am
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People forget there are 4 ways of loading and wiring these. Cone Out, Cone in. In phase, out phase Original cab had + and - reversed at socket to not confuse punter. Loaded magnet out they then fired backwards. Plenty horns out there useless below 55hz, T18 can be made to do a good job in very big places if you don't want sub 50 and it's a seriously easy build. I've covered this tons but if you have four, put the top two upside down and walk to the end of the football pitch. Something happens to the non existant phenomanon that is throw :) ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 10:39am
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sum speakers 'throw' further than others ------------- feel the vibes !!! "Who Feels it Knows it" Strong like Lion |
Posted By: Motion54
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 12:46pm
| How high can they comfortably play? |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 1:17pm
| Will not go above 150Hz |
Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 6:15pm
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Once I dj'ed behind a stack of 8 T18 bins. Almost got deaf. Nice cab but what I realised is that the sound behind the cab is probably just as loud as the front of the cab. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 8:18pm
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Yep, used to turn them to face wall in small venues, mad. I stacked four of these as per my previous post once, loaded with Celestion G18q oldies, cone out, powered off a PPX900 crossed at 250. I can honestly say it was too loud to be anywhere near without pain. Not saying Hi-Fi, but properly loud, girls complained. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 8:19pm
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double post ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: Motion54
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 8:47pm
I was hoping these could had satisfied my desire to reach upto 180-200hz min. I'm looking at all of these Ev "sub scoop" designs (sb180, mtl-1, T18 etc) to see which one can play from 70-200hz. Looks like I might have to build some Martin F1b's instead. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 20 May 2015 at 9:37pm
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Hate to admit this but Soundlab crossover we had as youngsers (sort of) was 500hz crossover and T18 were OK. It was 1985 or so but twas OK ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 29 May 2015 at 10:57am
| Which would be better in the T18? PD1850 or Fane 18XB |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 08 June 2015 at 9:53pm
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@ Bruce, sorry man, which amp is that? We run 12x t18. We only cross them to mth1's at 160hz. 125hz down around 3-6db on the grapic. All other mid highs not higher than 110hz. Above 200hz they sound horrible. ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 12:36pm
| Hi Hugo haven't decided on a amp yet. But I'am looking to load the boxes with Fane 18XB, just checked with PRO AUDIO they no longer do Fane probably due to our poor exchange rate. PS do you have the plans for the 10inch mid/horn that goes on top . |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 09 June 2015 at 7:28pm
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The mth1 or the older smaller horn? The problem is the phase plug. Without that and dl10x's its wortless. Can just as well build some omni tops, lol. Pm me your email ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: bruce@bluff
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 6:42am
| Thanks Hugo, just found a pair complete with MTH 1 tops lying in the basement of the City Hall looks like they been there for a good 20years. I will make an offer to purchase them, but oh the red tape, they would rather leave them in basement to rot away/be vandalized than sell them to me. They look like they where made locally by Pro Sound as the MTH1 is attached to the T18 to form a complete speaker. Anyway perhaps I need to offer someone a Johnny Walker Blue Label might be the only way to get them, if they are worth that. e-mail is mailto:Bruce.Lavender@durban.gov.za" rel="nofollow - Bruce.Lavender@durban.gov.za |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 10 June 2015 at 12:37pm
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That sounds like the 1810H-ER. The Mid horn is very simple to build. The problem is still the phase plug. I'll send you a mail... ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |