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Topic: Vintage amp Specs.HH,Citronic,Peavey, etc.
Posted By: jbl_man
Subject: Vintage amp Specs.HH,Citronic,Peavey, etc.
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 12:32pm
Going to keep this as a sticky,so we have it as a reference, if anyone wants to add to the list please do.
 
HH. 
http://www.hhamplification.com/ - http://www.hhamplification.com/
 
HH mx + vx series.
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~pughs/hhandy/pdf/MX_VX.pdf - http://www.users.waitrose.com/~pughs/hhandy/pdf/MX_VX.pdf
 
Citronic PPX series.
http://www.skytronic.co.uk/rsc/man/etc/PPX1200.pdf - http://www.skytronic.co.uk/rsc/man/etc/PPX1200.pdf
 
RSD Studiomasters
http://www.studiomaster.com/1976-1978.htm - http://www.studiomaster.com/1976-1978.htm
 
C-Audio RA3001.
http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/ra3001.htm - http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/ra3001.htm
 
C-Audio RA and SR series.
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15023 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15023


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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 12:43pm
Peavey CS series.(1980`s)
 
CS400.
http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300990.pdf - http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300990.pdf
 
CS800.
http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300991.pdf - http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300991.pdf
 
CS1000.
http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80301028.pdf - http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80301028.pdf
 
CS1200.
http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300505.pdf - http://www.peavey.com/media/pdf/manuals/80300505.pdf


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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 7:58pm
Crown/Amcron...all models,D150a,DC300a,etc.
http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm - http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 8:47am
Ian, Just took a trip down memory lane and looked at the specs you've posted. Regarding RSD. I seem to remember that the original RSD logo stood for Rotary SpeakerDevelopments. This would have been with founder Who I think was Paul Dodd. Does anyone remember any of this?

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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 10:26am
The roots of RSD go way back to 1976 when a small group of sound engineers, frustrated by the lack of high power amplifiers available in the UK, decided to design and build their own. The company name Recording Studio Design (RSD), was chosen as it reflected the aims of taking studio quality in to the live sound arena. Also one of the guys had a previous company called RSD and the name had kind of stuck!


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 12:03pm
Rog, apart from having just breached copyright rules, I suppose you were too young to remember that period of time. I seem to remember a picture of an elephant somewhere in the logo or on the adverts. surely someone must remember.

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 1:02pm
Tony--I think that you are probably right as the original partners were into making their own speaker cabinets as I think they started out as a PA hire company and I remember something about a white elephant or it could even have been a white rhino--later it turned into Recording Studio Design and then the Studiomaster name was used--cheers--John.


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 5:42pm
Studio master happened when the Indian guys took over. The elephant I picture might have been a Mamoth because I can picture huge great tusks.

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Posted By: 4DPA
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 5:51pm
Turbosound legacy products & more..
ftp://ftp.turbosound.com/datasheets/legacy%20products -
   ftp://ftp.turbosound.com/datasheets/legacy%20products - ftp.turbosound.com/









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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 6:36pm
1 was at school thenGeek

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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 6:38pm
i hope i donot become a topic of vintageDead

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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 6:48pm
Vintage is a good thing Andy,im sure you would be well proud when some of your handbuilt amplifiers are still running fine in 30 years time!

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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 6:59pm
well my HI-FI amps are almost there nowSmile

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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 2:12am
Anyone ever heard of a Lyonforge P400?

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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 8:15am
LOL

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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:38am
Lyonforge were a cheapo amp from the late 1980`s...lower power,generally about 200watts,rather badly built,almost worthless now,occasionaly see them pop up on ebay for a tenner.

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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:48am
Thumbs%20Up thanks mate
i cannot say that


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:52am
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

Lyonforge were a cheapo amp from the late 1980`s...lower power,generally about 200watts,rather badly built,almost worthless now,occasionaly see them pop up on ebay for a tenner.
 
Not that much are they? LOL
 
wern't they made by a company in southend? gotta be 30 years old at least!
 
on the subject of old there's a pair of Rodger squire 1 x 15's on ebays to go with this amp!!!!


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Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 12:33pm
rsd were bought out buy a indian consurtium which was headed by jim khan who is now working for rcf as one of there sales directors but all of the good products were gone by then no more innovations just following the flow of other manufacturers they had previously mastered bussing on mixers for cheap and routing and also dsp built in on mixers after the buyout all that stopped just bland products the original designers had sweeping bass mid and tops parametric eq on each input channels and the new managment never keep any of the old schematics or designs and sadly there main designer pass away so there is no point of reference

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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 6:52pm
ErmmThis one might be a bit of a chllenge,but I found a mono 4 channel PA amp that's definately vintage!It was being thrown out of a local authority building so I had to have it.
It's a Pamphonic Reproducer,built in London W9!Three mike inputs and one for 'Gram'(snigger)...the reason I had to have it is because I clocked the two genuine Mullard KT66's through the top,and if they worked they would fit lovely into an old guitar amp of mine.They did work and they have been beautifully for the last 7 years!

The amp is still stuck in the garage...thinking about getting some Czech valves for it-just for fun and restoring it to it's former glory.

Bet no one's heard of it but it would be a gas if someone could enlighten me...Wink


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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 7:09pm
Found this...

http://www.historyofpa.co.uk/gallery/APAE/gallery_apae.htm


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by Nox Nox wrote:

Found this...

http://www.historyofpa.co.uk/gallery/APAE/gallery_apae.htm
 
Very interesting site, loads of really good stuff from days gone bye!


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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 8:39pm
I'm just fascinated by old gear!If I had to buy those valves now they are probably about £80 each!

By the way my hobbies are sounds,Jameson whiskey and motorcycles...So we have two things in common!Ying%20Yang


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 8:55pm
can't do the motorcycle thing, last time I tried I did the wall of death in blackwall tunnel on a Z1r! (hit the wall at 60mph) not big and not clever (and bloody painful too!)
I too am very much into vintage pa/audio stuff
(I collect the stuff much to thr dismay of the little lady)  and one of the first "big amps I ever used was a sound city 500 valve amp sounded tooooo good! but bloody good, especialy good on bass! I used to love the reggae sound of years ago with the KT88 powered amps, so powerful and such nice warm bass (and amps)


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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 9:26pm
ClapAlthough I love today's technology for it's power, the warmth of a good valve phono stage does take some beating!

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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Nox Nox wrote:

ClapAlthough I love today's technology for it's power, the warmth of a good valve phono stage does take some beating!
 
Remember! 1000watts is only twice as loud as 100watts! if you look at the quality only the bass has changed really, I was getting the same sort of sound quality 25 years ago out of my ev eliminator 1a's (but with less bass & power) as I do with the system I use now which is about 2k!
since I started in sound I have used/owned just about every named brand of amp/mixer/speaker and still prefer the older stuff because it was simple and very un-complecated and aways seemed to do "the job"
I,e my first power amp was an HH s130 mono "slave" I used to do gigs for 200 people with it, ran it flat out and it never let me down,
now I don't posses an amp less than 500watts per channel & wouldn't dream of using it on it's own!


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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 10:28pm
Check this out...Tom Evans Microgroove...

Really audiophile pornography,but I've heard these pre-amps and they are truly astonishing!

I'd love to hear the difference a pair of these babes made to a big rig (A with) and (B without)-take my word for it,it's expensive,but if you want the best....

http://www.audiodesign.co.uk/


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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 11:04pm
Used to run a Sound City as a mobile disco amp, so damn loud, had a Simms Watts as well!

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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 11:21pm
My first gigs were with H&H,we had a bank of 6 H&H 100watt tranny amps and they never let us down-but I've always wanted a decent PA...I remember what a shock it was though when we had to shift certain ubiquitous heavy metal's 'Rock Star's PA's in and out,but it's taught me a bit...And we did'nt have the choice of drivers we have today...




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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 22 February 2008 at 11:47pm
Wish I could get my hands on  cheap Simms Watt and Sound City amps now...Good amps...


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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:02am
Sound City amps are back - with Arbiters, who sold them  originally - though made in China now, probably. Simms Watts used to be great guitar amps - Paul Rudolph of the Pink Fairies & later Hawkwind used 2 x 150 watters with 4 4x12 cabs loudest guitarist I think I ever heard.

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Posted By: Akino
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 11:02am
- Stage Accompany Vintage Section

At the bottom of the page,is a link to the electronics or speakercabinets



Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 7:00pm
How many people here are using the old citronic PPX's?

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Posted By: twinypaul
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 7:53pm

stil got a 450 and a 900 ppx they are so reliable you plug them in and go home no worries



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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 10:51pm
i have got nine of them..450`s and 900`s..never had one go wrong yet..no point in changing them as they arnt of any value,but still sound sweet.

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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 10:57pm
After loosing my girlfriend recently I have rediscovered boredom so I bought a PPX to clean and service for somthing to do in the evenings. excellent units to work on.

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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:29am
So all you guys who have used & still use the old Citronic PPX amps, what you reckon on the new ones ? The Pro-3200's. Are they worth a try at around the £400 mark ? 
 
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11145&PN=1 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11145&PN=1
 
I know sometimes new stuff ain't always built like the old ones, & not only amps, but don't know what their rep is like.  
 


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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:59am
Unfortunatly citronic is no longer a company. its now a trading name.I've not had a look at any modern citronic amps but all thair stuff is now el cheapo chinese product so I seriously doubt thair up to much!
The old ppx however are excellent, I own 4 of them. As JBL man says they dont sell for much nowadays so you can pick up a good one for very reasonable money.

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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 8:45am
My first PA amp was Vampower. They were were made by Geoff Johnson in Purley. They were also badged as 4 other amps at the time. It was 6 ch 100 watt valve amp. I later bought just the chassis and they became the first ASS amp.
Sound City amps were made around the back of my old factory in Southend. Maple Hire now occupy the building. Centre amps, DJ Electronics TK Electronics were also made in the town.
In Raleigh, just up the road from Southend was the company that made everyones boxes, except Carlsbro. These of course were mainly back line cabs. They were the first to make the Martin y bins which started life as the 2x15.

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 11:05am
Tony---Do you remember the huge SNS backline that Slade had in the seventies--They were all 2x12 or 2x15 cabinets fitted with OEM Fane Crescendos---The cabinets were superbly built and had a honeycone sparkly gold speaker grille and also as far as I know were fitted with the very first corner mounted bar grab handles---The amps were console type with a flip up control panel and most of the controls were on faders---They did not keep the amps very long as they were a bit unreliable and they could not get the valve sound out of them as they used transistor output stages---It was a very impressive wall of sound in its day as no-one else had any of the gear and the cabinets fitted with crescendos used to take your head off---cheers--John.


Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 11:49am
Weren't Slade using the SNS amps when Dave Martin measured an SPL of IIRC 144db a few feet above the audiences heads at one of their concerts? I never used them personally, but as Robbo says, I heard that they could take your head (and ears) off.

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 2:30pm
Not sure on the Dave Martin thing but I do know that they always had a backline sound that could cause serious brain damage--even going back to the late sixties they were using Vox 4x12 cabinets that also contained a couple of Goodmans Midax horns all driven by Sound City 120 watt valve amps and then after the SNS backline it was all Hi-Watt stacks except for the bass rig---Jimmy Lea was using 2 Accoustic 1x18 bins loaded with Cerwin Vega drivers, 3x Martin Audio 1x15 bass horns and two Hi-Watt 4x12s and the whole lot was driven by two H+H S500D power amps so there was about 2kw of bass guitar on stage---needless to say that Charlie(Slades FOH engineer) did not have to put much bass guitar through the PA most nights--cheers--John.


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 10:09pm
Robbo, Do you think we should push for a history section, there's a lot of random history floating around in our business, after all, you can't have a future unless there's a past.

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 10:28pm
Definitely Tony--History or Reminiscence section for us old grey haired rockers on here over 50 years young---Another little gem from the past---First time I worked with UB40 with our touring rig and I was doing onstage monitor desk duty and about halfway through the soundcheck, I was overheard calling Ali Campbell a jumped up little sh-t by his brother and it did not go down very well at the time but I did get the feeling that everyone else on stage agreed with me but were frightened to say anything---about two weeks later and I was doing FOH at a major folk festival and Ali s dad Ian Campbell was the headlining act on the first day and I got a right ribbing from him---however in the backstage beer tent after the show he came up, shook my hand and said that he totally agreed with my graphic description of his son and I deserved a medal for doing on stage sound for such an aweful band(UB40 were only just breaking into mainstream at the time)--cheers--John. 


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 9:43am
Good stuff mate. The new section is really needed to prevent the high jacking of threads like this one. I wouldn't feel so guilty about drifting off into dreamworld.
There is a lot of historical info that would interest the keen ones regarding gear. It's just a question of finding the right place to slot it in. Our friend Ian could add some good stuff, although age wise he wouldn't qualify.

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Posted By: minaximal
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 12:47pm
back on topic, any1 got the old spec sheets or interesting facts for an old cerwin vega A600 amp that we have sill going strong?

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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 12:39pm
I'm looking for more spec on the studiomaster mosfet 1000, the previously posted archive stuff describes it as 1000W, so that's presumably bridged at 8 ohm, therefore 500W at 4 ohm stereo and less at 8 ohm stereo, 425W?

I have bits and peices of schematics for these amps but no specifications

Also does anyone know why these are wired with pin 3 hot on the xlr input? from the schematic it looks like its switchable but if it is I haven't found it yet.


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 12 May 2008 at 9:03am
This was common practice with English built Studiomasters,pin 3 of the input xlr is signal,pin 1 is earth...but the output xlrs are wired normally,that is,pin 1 - pin 2+
 
Yes,the studiomaster 1000 mosfet was 2x500w at 4 ohms,and 2 x350w at 8Ohms.


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:10pm
Just to let you all know the HH site has now been up-dated with loads more info and a for sale section!

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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 06 October 2008 at 9:09am
Well spotted Colin..check out the updated picture section too.
http://www.hhamplification.co.uk/gallery.asp - http://www.hhamplification.co.uk/gallery.asp #
 
http://www.hhamplification.co.uk/speakers.asp - http://www.hhamplification.co.uk/speakers.asp #


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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 06 October 2008 at 1:26pm
Excellent links! A friend of mine still uses a pair of Pro Series -150 for gigs now.

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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 06 October 2008 at 1:35pm
Quite odd looking at some of the spec's now?
like the pro 200 cabs they sounded really loud all them years ago but they only rate them at 57db? and the pile of S series amps looks massive but is only 550watts in total, how time have changed eh?


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Posted By: audio boy
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 11:19am

hi, can any one help   ???

just aquired a ppx 900 channel b is dead.... but alas someone has been in there before
me and tryed to do a repair and made a bit of a botch  !!!
it seems r32 has got hot at some time as u would expect it is a large wire wound resistor
and carries a fair amount of current, the previous repair person seemed not to match the resistor for the job and has put two smaller resistors in parrallel these i have found so far to be open circuit, but could do really with a citcuit diagram, or anyone who is familier with these circuit bords, i have checked the fets and they appear to be ok, so dont mind spending a little time on the amp espesially as it was gratis !!
plus have an h+h mx 1200 for spares if any one needs the fets or the cake.


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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 3:02pm
the cake? is this some esoteric amp design from back in t'day that incoporated confectionery in its output stage? Tongue

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Posted By: audio boy
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 8:22pm
Superb behaviour,
 
 marzipan oxide sugar filled effctive transistors were the ultimate in
confectionary switching amplifiers  of their time, the current in rush was so minimal
the resistance could be measured in hunreds and thousands...... shame a 2 ohm load and it was all over....
just  over 30 deg temp and it all went to jam..... 


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Posted By: jazzhamster
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 1:57pm
Can anyone help? 

 I've a Rauch DVT50s with a dead side and would like to get it working again. It's been under my desk for the last 3 years gathering dust.
I've also got a quartet of Crimson amps and a couple of those are a bit iffy.

Any recommendations for a mister fixit in NW or N London (who isn't going to empty my bank account with his charges)?


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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 16 January 2009 at 7:17pm

Hill DX1500

http://www.rh.com/support/product-support/manuals_pdf/P1500_Full_Manual_Schem.pdf - http://www.rh.com/support/product-support/manuals_pdf/P1500_Full_Manual_Schem.pdf



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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 10:00pm
Quote Anyone ever heard of a Lyonforge P400
Yes, was distributed by Terralec Disco equipment, they do DIY modules for powered speakers as well etc.
 
Pamphonic Reproducers..originally a subsidiary of Pye. They made allsorts including radios and radiograms and 'tannoy' systems.
 
Citronic PPX. I have schematics if anyone needs 'em. Rock solid but heavy. Yes they're actually still used in many highstreet chain-bars as main PA as they rarely fail. (2009). Ditto HH.
 
Citronic of Melksham..I used to service their test equipment..they had some pretty expensive Keithley equipment and nice scopes! Now a brand of Skytronic (dutch). The Pro..series are not bad, surface mount, based on the QSC RMX range (inspired by??). The chassis and pcbs are stamped with the ST logo as are Soundlab and Studiomaster, made in China.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 24 January 2009 at 9:50am
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

 
Citronic PPX. I have schematics if anyone needs 'em. Rock solid but heavy. Yes they're actually still used in many highstreet chain-bars as main PA as they rarely fail. (2009). Ditto HH.
 
Interesting you should say that Kedward....that would explain one of the later style english-made PPX i have here....its a ppx600,but badged as "Chrysallis retail entertainment",but looking at it i dont think it was ever used or installed.


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 24 January 2009 at 5:20pm
Gosh yes, they were pretty much the last series that Citronic proper made here in the UK. They were sold here as the 'Conquest' models. Very heavy and the early production models suffered from large inrush current that was reduced in later versions.


Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 28 February 2009 at 3:33pm
hi 
my mate has just come across a load of vintage HH electronic amps. 

We want to know how much theyre worth. In particular the V500s and V200s. 

Theyre f**kin huge for their small output! vintage i guess

Saul


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 28 February 2009 at 6:11pm
probably not a lot, the v800 has a good little following still ( £60 or so on ebay) but others less so
i would not pay more than £25 each in average condition, £35-40 each if fairly mint


Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 7:59pm
ok cheers - maybe not as much of a find as they first appeared. LOL


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 8:27pm
whilst they may not be worth a lot, they are still good sounding amps and you could do worse for mid / high duty


Posted By: MunkeyQ
Date Posted: 23 May 2009 at 11:20pm
I've got the service manual for the Citronic PPX900...if anyone wants it PM me, but I'll try to put it somewhere on the web tomorrow. As far as I know the PPX450 is largely the same except for the power supply and output stage.


Posted By: soundengine
Date Posted: 04 August 2009 at 7:52am
Hi Andy. Trust the Void experiance is rewarding your talents.  I was after buying 6 off BUZ901D & 6 off BUZ906D MOSFETS.
Any chance you can quote me.
cheers.
dave.
012392-705716


Posted By: feedback
Date Posted: 18 September 2009 at 5:37pm
Anyone know what happened to all the RSE kit that the big boys used in the 70's..put together by an electronics genius who just lost interest  it seems.They had it in Dingwalls,  London back in the day and it used to get a right old pasting there: 2 scoops with forward facing 15's,on end, and a JBL 2" on a 36" lense on top run off  Quad amps /2-way xover..I think Macca, maybe Lizzy, used a shed-load..who did their PA?


Posted By: Mrfern
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 9:15am
im still runny 2 peavey cs800s they love it!

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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 01 February 2010 at 3:04pm
Found this spec sheet under one of my amps, very surprised by the output figures - definately not what I was thinking...
 
http://img203.imageshack.us/i/mmpaiceback.jpg/">
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9056/mmpaicefront.jpg - http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9056/mmpaicefront.jpg  
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/536/mmpaiceback.jpg - http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/536/mmpaiceback.jpg
"canons"LOL
 
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9056/mmpaicefront.jpg -  


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Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 01 February 2010 at 3:31pm

Cheeky I know, but any chance of a better scan? Havn’t  seen one of those for years.



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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 01 February 2010 at 3:49pm
No problem, try direct links below:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9056/mmpaicefront.jpg - http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9056/mmpaicefront.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/536/mmpaiceback.jpg - http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/536/mmpaiceback.jpg
 
16Ohm    -80w
8Ohm      -140w
4Ohm      -235w
 
 
19kgs.Wink


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Posted By: bass traffic
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 4:27am
Not sure if this is really classed as vintage but taken me 3 years of looking to find this:
http://www.camco.de/audio/d_camco_dl1.htm - http://www.camco.de/audio/d_camco_dl1.htm
 
I have the 3000 2p version which I think is the same except gives the output at 2 ohm instead of 4.
If anyone knows where I can get a manual I'd greatly appreciate it!


Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 24 August 2010 at 10:11am
Originally posted by 4D 4D wrote:





For all those who might need it here is a link to the Bss Epc-780 user manual

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36253551/4DPA-EPC-780 - LINK TO EPC-780 MANUAL

placed online by 4DPA for the benefit of mankind...



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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 4:18pm
Here's one for you Ian, I have just acquired these, with more to come.

http://img291.imageshack.us/i/img0654xj.jpg/">

Uploaded with http://imageshack.us - ImageShack.us

 





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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 4:37pm
Struth,that bottom one looks a real heavyweight...how old are they Tony...im guessing late 1980's early 90's?

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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 5:19pm
Hi Ian, they are about 20 years old, the bottom amp is unbearably heavy. It goes down to one ohm. Not the biggest amp he did, because there was a 3 phase 10k amp. That went down to 1/2 an ohm. I've got about 4- 2500's coming when I can pick them up. The 5000 will make a good bench amp for running signals through. Even with what I'm used to, I'm not carrying that around on my Demos.

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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 6:35pm
would love to see the lid of those and pics posted in the amp internals thread if you have the time Tony!


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 29 August 2010 at 7:27pm
Consider it done, I'll do it on tuesday. I can show off with the photo's now that I've mastered Image shack. Now that I can do it, I don't know what all the fuss was about.

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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 2:30pm
Something of the Macrotech look about them?

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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 30 August 2010 at 3:10pm
First time I've ever seen the 5000! and we were Harrison dealers? also would be interested to see inside hopefully they are a bit better built than the K series/sp mixers which had some parts hot glued inside them?
Mike Harrison had some great idea's but was sometimes let down in the manufacturing process! 
(I had one of the first sp12 mixer's)
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Posted By: klik
Date Posted: 25 October 2010 at 6:37pm
Iv got an old HH amp and so far ive had no joy in findin out wot its is in terms of pewer and model number. can any1 help me ?


Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 25 October 2010 at 8:00pm
Originally posted by klik klik wrote:

Iv got an old HH amp and so far ive had no joy in findin out wot its is in terms of pewer and model number. can any1 help me ?

Post a pic of it, there's no other way really.


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 06 January 2011 at 10:09pm
Cloud VTX spec's here



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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 24 February 2011 at 4:01pm
HH S500d spec sheet:
 


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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 24 February 2011 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

http://img291.imageshack.us/i/img0654xj.jpg/">
That 5000 cracks me up everytime I see it, can you imagine carrying that up a flight of steps?Confused


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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 24 February 2011 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by burningbush burningbush wrote:

That 5000 cracks me up everytime I see it, can you imagine carrying that up a flight of steps?Confused

It'd be easier to leave it at home and just have really, really, really long speaker leads.


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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 10:43am
LOL

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Posted By: CCAV
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

Crown/Amcron...all models,D150a,DC300a,etc.
http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm - http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm

Thanks for that link I found a full set of schematics for a pair of very old Crown M600 mono lab test amps that I've wanted to restore
These weigh close to 190lbs but are a part of our audio history and are worth restoring they will go from DC to 20K Should be a fun project


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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 5:35pm
Woah, they are big boys - you will have to get some pictures up of some internals.  What are they driving? ECT machine?

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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 8:50pm
Quote These weigh close to 190lbs


190 pounds? That a typo?

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Posted By: CCAV
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

Quote These weigh close to 190lbs


190 pounds? That a typo?

Sorry That was a typo the M600 comes in at 92 lbs
Which is still more than I want to move these days



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Posted By: merc 313
Date Posted: 23 August 2011 at 7:07pm
RSD 800b scematic .http://www.angelfire.com/sd/paulkemble/sound2.html


Posted By: jim2wang
Date Posted: 06 September 2011 at 12:06am
Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

Crown/Amcron...all models,D150a,DC300a,etc.
http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm - http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm
am using a crown studio reference at home, it's quite useful for me, thanks


Posted By: jim2wang
Date Posted: 06 September 2011 at 12:07am
Originally posted by jim2wang jim2wang wrote:

Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

Crown/Amcron...all models,D150a,DC300a,etc.
http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm - http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm
am using a crown studio reference at home, it's quite useful for me, thanks
btw, I'm a jbl man too, with all jbl speakers at home, and crown, lexicon and bss
stuffs besides.


Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 26 November 2011 at 2:52pm
RSD 800b spec sheet...




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Posted By: wayward91
Date Posted: 12 December 2011 at 5:42pm
just to point out the ppx link is dead/wrong. 

edit... i have a ppx300 schematic. pm me if anyone wants one.


Posted By: HighGradeBlazer
Date Posted: 17 December 2011 at 7:10pm
Helpful...thanks!


Posted By: Jebimasta
Date Posted: 19 December 2011 at 2:01pm
Citronic PPX300

http://www.mediafire.com/?3vqd97kd6xcxl4p" rel="nofollow - www.mediafire.com/?3vqd97kd6xcxl4p   -   Circuit Diagrams 

I've been hunting for these plans for a while, and didn't have much luck on forums. The only posts I ran into were people asking if anyone had them.
All I did was email AVSL Group and they got them over to me, but I guess people might still search the forums.
I have 2 other PDFs from the User manual too.


Posted By: wayward91
Date Posted: 20 October 2012 at 11:46pm
avsl kindly provided me with the manuals for the ppx300, 450 and 900. as well as the schematic for the 450.
pm me if anybody wants a copy.


Posted By: Noremac7777
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 12:28pm
I've been having trouble finding a manual for the PPX300 and PPX900, both of which I bought recently. All I keep finding is the schematics :/ 

The only actual manuals I've found were for the newer varieties, and I have no idea how the specs compare; whether they have any relevance whatsoever.

I can't seem to send private messages, possibly because I've just signed up (for this issue and this being my first post). I'd be very much obliged if someone could send me the manuals or point me in the right direction.



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