B&C 12PE32 VS 18 SOUNDS 12ND710
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Topic: B&C 12PE32 VS 18 SOUNDS 12ND710
Posted By: 3SOUNDS
Subject: B&C 12PE32 VS 18 SOUNDS 12ND710
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 11:39pm
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I'm gonna be building some sort of horn loaded mid enclosures quite soon and need to purchase some good quality 12" drivers. I'm looking to get as much clarity and clear mid i can get out of the drivers at the price. The 2 contenders i've come up with are: b&c 12pe32 18 sounds 12nd710 I've got no way of hearing these drivers before i purchase them but both have there plus points on paper, so is there anybody who has any experience with these drivers that can point me in the right direction of which one is the better driver or which one i should purchase. Much appreciated |
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Posted By: Wrighty
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 11:45pm
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I think Mykey likes the 12PE32. B&C drivers are certainly easier to get hold of in the UK than 18 Sound.
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 11:51pm
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how would either one of these fair in a high tuned reflex cab? say 150Hz?
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Posted By: Wrighty
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:06am
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Put them into WinISD and find out! :)
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:28am
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The 12ND710 works nicely in my reflex cabs but tuned to more like 65Hz. Tuning that high will only screw up the phase response etc. I would never tune a reflex cab above about 80Hz and that's very high IMO. Big difference between those two drivers is the weight! Otherwise they are both very capable for midrange duties. |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:48am
I'm on my GFs PC. She humors me cruising this site till all hours, don't think she'd appreciate me installing random stuff tho! I'll check when I get home 2moro. Thanks for the advice about tuning cerharden. ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Wrighty wrote:Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:18am
| What sort of cab are you planning? There are a lot of very nice bass-mid 12" drivers around. |
Posted By: 3SOUNDS
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:30pm
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I'm currently looking at horn loaded midrange cabs, with designs being similar to the mt121. I've already contacted noise control audio and they can definetly get me the 18 sound drivers. Everyone who has brought the 12pe32's seems to rate them very highly and say there more clear sounding then any other 12" driver they have heard at the price. This was fine and i was about to place my order until i heard that the 12nd710 is also a highly reccomended driver aswell in this league, and looking on the website it has very good spec also, and that neo magnet will make it lighter but it is more expensive. The main thing is the sound quality, it would be ideal if there is someone who's heard both drivers and can point me in the right direction. Will there be a major difference in sound quality, volume etc between the 2 drivers. And also will the power handling on the 12pe32 be an issue. |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 2:00pm
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 2:19pm
NCA are the guys who sorted out my 18Sound drivers too quickly. Brilliant topic. Will help me finally decide on mid drivers.
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:58pm
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i have got 4 of these 12pe32 in Tony`s old skool ASS mid horns,and they are excellent,very efficient,nice crisp sound. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: 3SOUNDS
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 10:02pm
| Anyone else |
Posted By: AndyWave
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 10:44pm
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Hi nutters I'm currently using B&C 12PE32 as midbass with front horn and bassreflex rear. Midrange is quick and enuff clear, midbass not muddy. x/o points 120 & 1230Hz, both 24LR. Could be using 2*12 per cab to get more kick (and dead weight, choose wisely?...). I haven't heard the 18sounds 12ND710, but by the parameters they could serve well (in horn). I'm anyway satisfied with B&Cs performance. Good bang for the buck. Previous mids in same cabs were the JBL 2202H, they needed lower LP (800Hz) and still not so clear sounding, maybe the larger Mms was the culprit, despite the angrier BxL. Andy ------------- torturing electrons since ...... |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 11:27am
ceharden, I may have asked before but do you/anyone know which 18Sound Ferrite driver this 12ND710 neo driver is equivalent to ?
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 11:45am
| I don't think it has a ferrite equivalent. |
Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:07pm
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I think those drivers were mentioned in a thread i started, there might be some useful opinions here: http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13884&PN=1 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13884&PN=1
The thread kind of ended though because i discovered i didnt really know what i wanted, and im focusing on bass cabs atm
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:26pm
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double post. ------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:34pm
Ok mate, cheers.
Asking as I mentioned in another thread about anyone hearing the 12MB600 as myself listening to one the other day, have since been wondering if this neo driver & B&CPE32 would sound as good or better!
Loads of useful info in that thread mate. It ain't ended, it's just paused till someone else decides to go for quality drivers.
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Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 1:04pm
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Yeah cheers, people posted some good info there,
I will revive that thread once i have built my bass cabs ( http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15928 - here ), and i need to descide on what type of mids i want to build, then i can decide what driver i want. I was jumping the gun with that thread TBH!
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