ES-18BPH`
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Topic: ES-18BPH`
Posted By: Buffmarley
Subject: ES-18BPH`
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 12:22pm
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Hi iv been building a few of staipers bandpass horns, and been loading them with PD1850s
theres my problem as they where designed for P audio SD18 drivers,
Is there any option i can slightly alter the design in terms of the driver pannel i cut it @ 35-40 degrees rather than the suggested 45 degrees, as my magnet wouldnt fit without sanding/dremmeling and still its a tight fit... and of course a risk of damaging the magnet as it clears the cab by about 4mm!
BEst wishes
Liam
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Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 2:39pm
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If i had an 1850 i'd probably put it in something else.
and get some SD18s (or similar) for your ES-18BPH
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Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 7:39pm
 but im determined for pds to fit in this cab 
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Posted By: mylesound
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 7:45pm
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Jake_Fielder wrote:Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 9:02pm
Why? have you got to keep size down?
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Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 01 April 2008 at 3:06pm
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Size preferable, and want to keep all bass drivers uniform.
Im going to build a prototype out of mdf and see if it effects the performance if it does BBQ this weekend
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Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 01 April 2008 at 3:28pm
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What do you mean " keep all bass drivers uniform"?
I assume you have other bins with 1850's in....?
What else are you running?
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Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 03 April 2008 at 8:56pm
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OHM 450 (Band pass cabs)x4 i think thats the right model number.
Iv built 2 of the es-18bph with my modded angle and they seem fine (will post pictures shortly). Will test them if results good i will build another 10 more.
 For some reason im in love with this cab, the warm rich bass sound, and of course minimum materials used.
Or am i tredding into sh*t here going against stipers suggested driver?
Best wishes
Liam
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Posted By: mylesound
Date Posted: 03 April 2008 at 9:00pm
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i thought the ES is a kick bin?
your using it stand alone? |
Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:11pm
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at the moment the ohm bandpass is getting us our bottom end, and hopefully our es bins for kick, would the pd1850 enjoy going lower than suggested for this cab?
what diy bins would you reccomend for our low fqs?
Liam
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Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:25pm
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Its just that chances are the Paudio driver that this cab was designed for would perform better than the 1850, so its a waste of a monster driver!
What kind of system are you trying to run, what music and stuff ?
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 04 April 2008 at 12:26pm
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Hi, I think you might be wasting your PD1850. As I understand it, the ES-18BPH is an industrial strength kick bin. Shortly, I'll be considering getting these or USB's built, but I probably would be using Celestion FTR's or PD186. I can understand standardising on one brand for large purchase reductions, but you can't standardise on 1x driver for different types of cab, as differing cabs have differing purposes and driver parameter requirements. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 13 April 2008 at 9:49am
techno, and normal dance music....
well either way im going to try the stack of 12, with pds in if it fails badly then looks like I need to build 12 more sub bins to accomodate the pd1850s , so maybe a/ 1850 horn + es-18bph rig? (x12 of each bin)
any advice on this?
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Posted By: kallabungo
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 3:07pm
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i thought we were going for 8 x1850 folded horns and 8 ES's?
My advice......... take a loan
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Posted By: mylesound
Date Posted: 21 April 2008 at 7:37pm
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i agree use your 1850's and put em in the 1850 horn.
or ship em to people like me who are dying for em. il send you some Paudio if you want Lol |
Posted By: Buffmarley
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 12:44pm
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Yep the horn mouth isnt long enough...
1850s now under contruction
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 4:42pm
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are you getting rid of the ES18's in favor of 1850 horns then Buffmarley? ------------- 
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Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 5:10pm
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The new Challenger II looks like it wold blow away all other drivers in the ES18BPH just perfect plots in every way, even with just one bin in half space. I can't wait for the drivers to arrive ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 26 July 2008 at 6:06pm
chalenger 2? celsetion is it.... can i be extremley cheeky and ask if you could post up a plot of that against the pd186 if youve already done it, hornsrep doesnt work on my pc for no aparent reason  edit: i meant p audio not celestion. ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 26 July 2008 at 7:52pm
This ELF one ?
http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/products/C-18ELF.pdf - http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/products/C-18ELF.pdf
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Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 27 July 2008 at 12:07am
yes, that's the bugger Will plot it again tomorrow to post here ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 27 July 2008 at 12:35am
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Hmmm, that is a quite a lot of QTS for a horn driver.
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Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 04 August 2008 at 10:56am
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got some lovley plots for us them mircea? ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: mstep77
Date Posted: 04 August 2008 at 6:38pm
| Have a read of the "readme txt file" that comes with hornresp and do what it tells you to, there is some file that you have to copy and paste to make the shortcut work, this may be your problem. |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 8:33pm
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still nothing mircea? is the challenger II available from PAP or blue aran currently anyone? or is it not being imported yet... had a look on the sites and doesn't appear to be up but that might just mean they've not updated in a while. ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 9:30pm
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not at the moment but i am lookingintoit. cant promi anything!
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Posted By: gwarntek
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 12:58am
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sorry dont mean to bring up old posts again, plus iv mentioned a similar topic to this lately but...
im about to build two ES18's
i might use PD186s as i have some that may soon become cabinet-less,
but maybe buy the SD18s as specified, or any other suggestions?
what should i do? as im not so experienced with all the t/s parameters and all...
i dont need too much low end as they will be used over subs, only really for 80Hz+
any help would be sweet tings
peace
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