Void v18 1000- CHINA????
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Topic: Void v18 1000- CHINA????
Posted By: Hi_Varu
Subject: Void v18 1000- CHINA????
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 7:04pm
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Are they made in china?  Manifacture is uncomparable to rcf... i bought 4 v18 1000 from rainnbowparty-holland. the code on boxes was -void v18 1000b-.on one box there was an old china shipping note.Half shipping note,because half was ripped.So i was thinking they should be imported from china and than reselled in europe.... They sound good,really f**king good in 1850 horns but manifacture details didn't satisfy me for what i was waiting from a top drivers line.I always used rcf,and they were always perfect. In my opinion... |
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Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 24 April 2008 at 8:49pm
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not that I am aware of....... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: WhiteElephantSounds
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 2:01pm
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What do you mean? Build quality? I own six of these and they all seem very well built and put together to me. The only bad one of the lot is the one an x1 destroyed, and even that is making a nice paper weight on my desk... My last batch of pd154s on the other hand were a right mess out the box, dry soldering and heaps of glue around the cone and dribbled over the chassis. Work fine though so all irrelevant really. |
Hi_Varu wrote:Posted By: rezsbc
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 2:32pm
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Made in England.
Never had to remove any of ours from our bins and they've taken some battering!!
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 2:35pm
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If i was in Italy and only had access to a few drivers i would have gone for TBX100 if PD1850s werent available. ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 2:45pm
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I was under the impression that they were made somewhere in south-east asia (or at least some of there component parts), could well be wrong though...
------------- To do a dull thing with style - now that's an art. |
Posted By: Stumbler
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 4:11pm
No, UK - been waiting weeks for mine, rang Void/PAP today, was told it was something to do with state of british manufacturing that the factory cant deliver when it says its going to... 
------------- not as straight forward as i first imagined.. |
Posted By: Richard Hart
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 4:27pm
Are PD making them??
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Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 4:41pm
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That would be abit weird, with the V18-1000s being pretty much the only thing out there in direct competition with the 1850? (in terms of intended use/specs) ------------- To do a dull thing with style - now that's an art. |
Posted By: boycey
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 4:44pm
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stumbler- i had exactly the same thing last year. as far as i understand it now the "leadout time" is a fallacy, more accurately what happens is that they wait for enough orders to begin begin batch production then build sell and back to the top. i don't know how long you've waited, it took about 4-5 months to get ours (can't remember exactly) but it was worth it in the end. they are truly awesome and i'd feel like a mug now if i'd settled for less. hope they turn up soon :) edit: having checked it out it actually took just 3 months  ------------- the only thing more dangerous than a person who doesn't give a f**k is a person who gives a sh*t. |
Posted By: Calculus
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 4:54pm
how long have you had six???
I knew you had two. ------------- Always a compromise, You can't have everything... Where would you put it all. |
Posted By: Richard Hart
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 5:16pm
That's a very good point actually, one I had failed consider.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 5:45pm
| i'm very happy with mine. there's nothing about the manufacturing i have thought looked in any way lacking. |
Posted By: WhiteElephantSounds
Date Posted: 25 April 2008 at 6:44pm
Long time no see Glen, Tom got 4 of mark irations old 1850s off roy to load his cabs with so i bought his four v18s off him, thats how we now have 4 v18 x1s a spare and my paperweight. Whats going on with your sound? You get rid off those fanes? What ya get?
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Posted By: Hi_Varu
Date Posted: 27 April 2008 at 10:42am
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i bought 4 v18 1000 from rainnbowparty-holland. the code on boxes was -void v18 1000b-.on one box there was an old china shipping note.Half shipping note,because half was ripped.So i was thinking they should be imported from china and than reselled in europe.... They sound good,really f**king good in 1850 horns but manifacture details didn't satisfy me for what i was waiting from a top drivers line.I always used rcf,and they were always perfect. In my opinion... |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 27 April 2008 at 10:58am
+1
I was also under the impression the were built in the far east!! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: adambomb
Date Posted: 27 April 2008 at 11:14am
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I thought they were made by P.Audio (OEM style deal)... that's just my guess.... and that should not detract from the persieved quality of the product as P.Audio have one of the most advanced driver factories in the world. ------------- http://www.freespeakerplans.com" rel="nofollow - www.freespeakerplans.com |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 11:57am
If the Amps are made in China then i wouldnt be surprised if the drivers are shipped over from there aswell.
Shipping label from the far east and delivery times are kind of a tell tale sign. ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: boycey
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 12:49pm
the fact that they have kurt muller cones screams "made in the UK"  . the issue, i believe, is that it's batch production (in much the same way as precision devices). without enough demand to sustain a constant production line producing batches will keep the cost down.edit: http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10070&KW=void - read this  edit pt2: i really did get them the next week too. ------------- the only thing more dangerous than a person who doesn't give a f**k is a person who gives a sh*t. |
Posted By: Stumbler
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 12:57pm
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really not sure can wait any longer for these damn drivers, much tho i like Void, they are starting to take the biscuit... so, cant afford PD1850's new and are hard to find and still damn expensive 2nd hand, so anyone got any opinions on the Turbomax 900 as an alternative - want to use in X1's..? ------------- not as straight forward as i first imagined.. |
Posted By: Gramps
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 5:14pm
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P-audio SD-18s work well in X1s...
------------- To do a dull thing with style - now that's an art. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 5:46pm
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Turbo 900 should work well but to be on the safe side ask Levyte as he knows the difference in specs/vas/bl and could advise you better. ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 8:35pm
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"the fact that they have kurt muller cones screams "made in the UK" "
JBL used to ship Hawley cones "made in USA" to the pacific rim where they were assembled using local labor and parts into complete drive units, then shipped back to the USA for installation into cabinets.
http://www.hawleyproducts.com/ - http://www.hawleyproducts.com/ ------------- djk |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 9:22pm
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Kurt Muller cones are shipped world wide and will turn in any speaker in any country that makes speakers. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 9:37pm
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Aren't the V18-1000's ment as an cheap 1850 clone? Making 'em a bit short on the look but OK performance wise. Regards Johan
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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 9:44pm
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the basket on the v1000 looks like a jbl copy. i have seen several drivers, usually copies of the jbl 2241 from china using this basket. drivers from soundking and rcl spring to mind. so, my guess is that the v1000 could come from the same source. ie a void design built to their spec in china. i might well be wrong, but that is what i suspect.
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Posted By: Hi_Varu
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 6:21pm
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...209 £ for a great china driver. |
Posted By: josh
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 6:33pm
| Well all i see is speculation from you guys, the v18-1000 has proven its self time and time again in numerous designs, it is an a class driver and is quite astonishing what it can do in certain cabinets. If you offered me 4 pd1850s or 4 v18-1000, id accept the 4 pd 1850s sell them and buy 5 v18-1000's. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 6:42pm
  As a heavy PD user, got to say these v18-1000's are one of the wickedest drivers I've ever come across in all my years of sound system business!
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Posted By: hifiger
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 6:53pm
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Quote: "Well all i see is speculation from you guys, the v18-1000 has proven its self time and time again in numerous designs, it is an a class driver and is quite astonishing what it can do in certain cabinets. If you offered me 4 pd1850s or 4 v18-1000, id accept the 4 pd 1850s sell them and buy 5 v18-1000's." Here Here . .
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 9:30pm
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Like I said in another thread, just because a product is Made in china, doesnt automatically make it crap. From what I understand, thats where Qsc, Crest amps are now made, and you dont hear people slanging those of because they are made there. What matters, is the quality of components used in the manufacture. The V18-1000 performs excellently in more cabs than the PD1850. Some people say they blow more in X1's than 1850s, and some say they prefer it to the 1850. All down to individual preference and budget. But the fact of the matter is, there is a shortage of both, where as the mighty Turbomax, the don of 18" drivers, is freely available.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mstep77
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 12:53am
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The parameters of the V18-1000 look exceptional to me and nobody has ever had a single negative coment to say about them (that I have read on here).
I have not used them but they model to the same standard as pd1850 (arguably better) and are cheaper.
Matt
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 01 May 2008 at 2:31am
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I think the argument would be Lev is that companys shift their manufacturing overseas to keep the costs down but don't reflect that in Europe or the UK, they still charge an arm and a leg for them
thats why Mr Dyson flys over the tps of your heads in his helicopter laughing at the british government
I came here for that reason, costs in the UK are stupid, but as you can tell, my prices are still lower when sold in the UK
where do you guys think JBL have been making their drivers for years? China me old China
if Rog was making drivers in the UK, and selling them for what he sells them at, he would be broke pretty soon ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: streetsounds
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 3:35pm
Maybe this would help a bit in the argument..
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Posted: 12 February 2009 at 4:49amPosted By: Saul
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 3:36pm
theyre not - void told me they were made in france |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 30 April 2009 at 3:46pm
Thomann told me Prolines were made in Germany. Actually made in China, but still very good product. There's a lot of that these days. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Neilt001
Date Posted: 09 January 2026 at 4:00pm
| I know this post is obviously decades late, but the V18 1000 is definitely made in China, at least nowadays. I just ordered one from Blu Aran and they said they're waiting for another batch to come in from China, and that it's one of Void's chinese-made drivers. It's still apparently a very sick driver though, so I'm happy so long as it kills it in my X1s! |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 09 January 2026 at 4:40pm
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I commented on that decades old thread, and remember it clearly. There are 3x types of products that come out of China:
History would suggest Void V18-1000, Void Infinite 8 MK2, are of the latter. Void V18-1000 is the most sensitive 18" driver I've owned. The Void Infinite 8MK2 amplifier, is the strongest/most efficient transformer amp, I've ever used, @ 4 ohm, easily surpassing Crown MA5000VZ, Crest 9001. EDIT:In regards to the X1 cab, I would have suggested, the PD1850 or PD 1851. But then again, years ago, the Void was fantastic in so many cabs. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 09 January 2026 at 4:48pm
| My friend bought 8 Celestion drivers 18" and not a problem with them. After many years. Not everything from China is cr@p. |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 January 2026 at 5:12pm
| I'm in my 19th year now of having voids in x1s and always been happy with them. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 09 January 2026 at 5:34pm
I always wanted to try Voids in Martin WSX copies, but the "sub being thrown into car park" ploy, always prevented me !!  ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Maze
Date Posted: 12 January 2026 at 7:01am
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Damn, I've never been able to find these in China. Who makes them/distributor? |