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"Kickiest" Kick Horn/Driver?

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Topic: "Kickiest" Kick Horn/Driver?
Posted By: asaa00
Subject: "Kickiest" Kick Horn/Driver?
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:23pm
Figured I might as well make my own thread instead of hijacking someone elses'...

Anyway... after I'm done building my 2nd hog, I'll be looking at a kick bin to throw on top of them.  The hogs will be loaded with RCF L18P300's and I'm expecting them to singgggg when it comes to dubstep and dnb.  But I spin just as much electro/tech house aswell, so I am really looking for some SERIOUS kick.

I'm looking for a super tight, REALLY hard punchy feel...like I'm being shot in the chest with a 12 gauge every time the kick drum hits...:p  I've always loved setups with this type of severe kick and am looking for something to satisfy my fetishLOL

Plans I've been looking at are the ES18-BPH (2x) and the USB... But im wondering if the use of 18" woofers play too low for the kind of kick im looking for?  Also, I'm trying to stick with a dual driver bin and Void/PD is out of the question as I live in the states.

Any suggestions for plans/drivers to load them with?
I'm open to any and all suggestions, and thank you for reading :)



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Posted By: breakdabeat pete
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:29pm
hd15's / hd215  ??
easy to build and when loaded with eminence arn't bad!


Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:34pm
I was looking at the 215 but I was under the impression the USB/ES18-BPH sounds better and plays in the same frequency range....

Would the 215's be punchier?

I apologize for the newbish ness.... The hogs are my first build.


Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:36pm
hmmm id say es18-bph, with celestion's in, should be able to get them there,

should kick like a mule,,,


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Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:36pm
you want somethng realy daft and hardcore as far as kick is concerned? sellenium hb1505c1!
in the general forum there was a thread called sellenium dual 15 kappa or something.
here it is
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16218
have a look it kind of got hijacked by me and turned into the 1505c1 instead of the 1502b1 but hey.
not much use below about 80hz by the looks but for kick,,,,, waaahaaaay!


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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by asaa00 asaa00 wrote:



I'm looking for a super tight, REALLY hard punchy feel...like I'm being shot in the chest with a 12 gauge every time the kick drum hits...:



USB has 2x18s, and has enough kick to decapitate.

Oh, and it works witb B&C drivers (18PZB100, 18PS100), which I think you can get in the states ?Wink


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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 9:38pm
Theory says that the HD15 should be a bit punchier by virtue of its less cone mass, but at the same time it moves less air so you will feel the effects less.
 
I own HD's and they are kicky with PD154 in, but as i haven't heard the USB or ES18 I can't comment on comparison.
 
Look at the driver sims in the HD15 section for a driver that is available to you and has the right shape curve.


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Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Markk James Markk James wrote:

you want somethng realy daft and hardcore as far as kick is concerned? sellenium hb1505c1!
in the general forum there was a thread called sellenium dual 15 kappa or something.
here it is
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16218
have a look it kind of got hijacked by me and turned into the 1505c1 instead of the 1502b1 but hey.
not much use below about 80hz by the looks but for kick,,,,, waaahaaaay!

Great! Thanks!

BTW, have you heard the USB/ES18-BPH/Turbosound 718?  If so, how does that selenium bin compare?


Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 10:14pm
errr, hmm have heard es18 a long time ago, have heard the hd too, difference realy is ones a horn and ones a band pass horn. the horn will probably have more transient response and be clearer, also band pass limits operating bandwidth, ie it has a band pass filter effect. so the horn should play heigher too, and its straighter! down side is it dont play as low so not much use on its own to be fair. its quite a bit bigger and heavier and its just a bit less practical. but hey thats how I like it to be honest!

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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure


Posted By: JaKe
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 10:23pm
Martin 215?


Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 11:03pm
Quote hmm have heard es18 a long time ago, have heard the hd too, difference realy is ones a horn and ones a band pass horn
 
Maybe you're thinking of a different ES18BPH, its most definately a bandpass horn (BPH), as is the HD15.


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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by login4 login4 wrote:

hmmm id say es18-bph, with celestion's in, should be able to get them there,

should kick like a mule,,,
 
+1
 
having heard both HD's & ES18's i would say the HD is the winner if it comes down to size but the ES18 is the winner for overall SPL & kick.


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Posted By: SURINAME
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 3:53pm
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THIS ONE WORKS FOR ME AND KICKS LIKE W-BIN


Posted By: SURINAME
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 4:03pm
I'VE TRIED BOTH ES-18BPH AND RCF BASSBIN AND LAST ONE
SOUNDED MUCH CLEANER AND HARDER EVEN WITH CHEAP SPEAKERS
LIKE SELENIUM 18WS600 AND EMINENCE OMEGA PRO 18A


Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 9:10pm
Is that driver forward firing?  Which RCF bin is that?   What driver was designed to go in there?


Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 9:13pm
edit:nvm


Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 10 May 2008 at 9:30pm
sory i meant es18/hd15 vs hb1505c1 which is a straight horn....

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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 10:55am
Interesting thread, im also looking for some serious kick but only wanna go down the 15" road.
 
Dat RCF bin looks similair to a T18.


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Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by Markk James Markk James wrote:

sory i meant es18/hd15 vs hb1505c1 which is a straight horn....

You mean HB1805C1..... Right?

Is there a 15" version of this bin?  I looked up the 1505C1, but its a completely different design...


Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:05pm
would any of these suggested cabs in this thread cover 90-250hz? havin trouble to find anything suitable thats horn loaded

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Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 9:15pm
the hb1505c1 is a straight 15" horn, no folds , STRAIGHT! and yes the 18" does have a smaller brother, hb1505d1 see my avatar ...... thats the d1.
I want a straight horn 80<300hz realy so hb1505c1 looks the only way to be honest.
@vpas my best suggestion is the hb1505c1 or the martin 215 mk2 alough this wont do the 300hz that I'm looking for too well allegedly so I'm looking at the c1 at this moment in time!


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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure


Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 13 May 2008 at 9:16pm
for the hb1505d1 build thread
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5972&KW=inc+pics


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me so horny me love you long throw
horn loaded for her pleasure



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