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Hornresp 1850 Plots- Done correctly?

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Topic: Hornresp 1850 Plots- Done correctly?
Posted By: FlipC
Subject: Hornresp 1850 Plots- Done correctly?
Date Posted: 21 September 2008 at 8:55am
Wanted to see if I got this right. Using the Dayton DVC 3585-88 15" driver. Here's the info:

Ang: 2Pi
S1: 480
S2: 6000
Exp: 210
Vrc: 54.5
Lrc: 36
Vtc: 2340
Atc: 1150

Driver
Sd: 829.6
Cms: 2.37E-04
Mmd: 288.62
Re: 2.8
Bl: 16
Rms: 6.83
Le: 1.82

I do this correct for said driver?
My SPL Response chart, while not a flat response with single , isn't bad when done with 2 speakers.
Can someone post their graph so I can compare?





Replies:
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 21 September 2008 at 9:09am
1850 needs an 18" driver!

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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 21 September 2008 at 10:49am
How in the name of Jesus you got the idea to use that driver in a 1850 horn?

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Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 22 September 2008 at 4:08am
Cause they are sitting around.
And all I am doing is running numbers. Jeez...

Anyone want to run them and
A- tell me if the numbers I posted are the correct way to do the 1850 and
also to post your plot(s) Single speaker and dual speakers.

Tx



Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 22 September 2008 at 12:59pm
Hornresp now models horns with offset drivers, like the 1850 horn, that should
be more appropiate. 
 
As far as can be told from looking at the picture:
 
The horn mouth is to large, especially because you're using the exponential flair, the horn flairs to fast near the mouth. Model the horn as multiple conical segments.
 
Horn length should be axial thus at least less than 2 metre. Vtc could be doubled (at least).
 
In case you're using the offset driver method (models quite similar to placing S1 right in front of the driver for non-affset) download the latest version to prevent the latest error. You can use a Vtc of 5000, S2 is right in front of the driver.
 
The modelled volume (see schematic diagram) should be no more than 365 litres.
 
Regards Johan


Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by mobiele eenheid mobiele eenheid wrote:

Hornresp now models horns with offset drivers, like the 1850 horn, that should
be more appropiate. 
 
As far as can be told from looking at the picture:
 
The horn mouth is to large, especially because you're using the exponential flair, the horn flairs to fast near the mouth. Model the horn as multiple conical segments.
 
Horn length should be axial thus at least less than 2 metre. Vtc could be doubled (at least).
 
In case you're using the offset driver method (models quite similar to placing S1 right in front of the driver for non-affset) download the latest version to prevent the latest error. You can use a Vtc of 5000, S2 is right in front of the driver.
 
The modelled volume (see schematic diagram) should be no more than 365 litres.
 
Regards Johan
 
i know it's a little beat old but what is S1 then ?


Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 5:25pm
For an off-set horn that's correct. In case there's a single mm of surface area left that would mean S1 = 60 cm^2.
 
Best regards Johan


Posted By: airbell
Date Posted: 11 March 2010 at 11:46pm
Wacko Ermm , 1mm> S1=6cm²....
~60cm x 0,1cm = 6cm²
I think Hornresp cant calculate 0cm² or too low numbers for that whyever,
that may can explain somebody else.
But you can use 0cm² and the programm is calculating with the lowest area thats possible.
There is a warning message but you can ignore it.
with that you will have the most realist result thats possible.




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