LjudLahger project
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Topic: LjudLahger project
Posted By: LjudLahger
Subject: LjudLahger project
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 10:32pm
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After 1000 ideas I finally decided which midcab's I wanted to build. NOT. But here's some pictures of the old idea... At page 4 you got my new project, an V-shape design. __________________________________________________ I have just build one and it isn't finished yet. Going to in the weekend and build the other one.           And this speakon plates are gonna look awsome !  Thought about doing handels like this, simple...  It is / are going to be loaded with KappaPro10" + Peavey 22T + RCF H100 + JBL 075 And when the time comes for 4 cabs I'll change the 1" driver to P.audio because this peavey's are old... |
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Posted By: super-hero
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 1:11am
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Very nice, What type of ply are you using? And are you going to use a passive crossover. ------------- I'm not an animal, I'm a human being. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 11:18am
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i would use DE250 and loose the bullet.
------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 7:53pm
Thanks! The ply is 12mm with some brown painting or coating...Had 1 sheet laying around and i think that 12mm is enough for the 10" driver...only 9 litres. Active crossover between 10" and 1". Passive at 8000 hz between 1" and JBL. I really like the sound in the JBL 075 and the peavey driver doesn't give much in the high... That's whay I use it  But ofcourse, MirjanM, I would like to have new drivers and plan to, just don't got any $ and want to fire em' up! |
super-hero wrote:Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 11:39pm
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Today I build the other one. Got pretty nice! More pice for you tomorrow. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 7:59pm
This is what I did today
 The conection plates are awsome!
 And a pic of what I'm going to load them with.
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Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:04pm
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Nice one. They should look the stuff with some rounding on the edges and a lick of paint. If you ever get problems with the dispersion of a single bullet, do a swapsies with a slot. ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:16pm
My english isn't that good...so what does that mean?
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Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:19pm
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Bullet tweeters have a very tight dispersion and if you ever find that it's problematic, replacing one with a slot tweeter (which have a much wider dispersion - they are very similar to bullets apart from the exit and so command the same price usually) is cheaper than putting in a DE250. Or you could array two bullets. ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:35pm
I see! Thanks for your advice!
It's going to be very intressting when thay are finished...
And it is hard to pic a design for low freq...
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Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:36pm
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be sure to scrape the coating from the wood so the paint will adhere
------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 8:59pm
Yes sir, I will!
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Posted By: music force
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 9:14pm
| where did you get the plaans for this cab or is it your own design |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 9:16pm
It is my own design!
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 25 October 2008 at 3:52pm
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Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 26 October 2008 at 10:43pm
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Seams like you enjoy the ancient art of eating sawdust as much as i do. That paint removal looks like a horrible task, well done. ------------- Matt at ukamp dot co dot uk |
Posted By: wafflesomd
Date Posted: 26 October 2008 at 11:40pm
| I learned to wear a respirator after I would end up with a mouth full of saw dust when I was finished sanding... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 October 2008 at 6:48pm
Yeah I've learn that maby remove it before I mounting the cab together...Have to get the paint of in the corners at the baffel...maby a "dremel"? |
Posted By: CLsystems
Date Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:01pm
| i should imagine, if its on the baffle, and your using a grill, it would be ok just to paint over it. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 October 2008 at 8:47pm
You got a point there...but I'm not sure if we are gonna use a grill or not... |
Posted By: CLsystems
Date Posted: 27 October 2008 at 11:04pm
| still, its not the kind of area that will get knocked or scraped around. might save yourself buying a dremel.... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 09 November 2008 at 8:02pm
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Damn, did an big update here yesterday but after the database crash it's all gone... But the update was about me had ordered things from thomann for two more mid cabs and nice speakerstands holders...  (picture from adamhall) And in this week I am going to order four P.audio BM-D450 from PAP. Also bought this for the paint in the corners, 10£   And was discussing to do an reflex cab of them because I could get down to 115Hz, full power, airflow under control and no x-max reaching...closed 200Hz... would look like this...  And maby the cables would be in the way, but the air flow wont be huge... Also my biggest fan!  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 9:17pm
Got some things today... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 9:23pm
Do you guy's think that I should loose the bullit? Maby build a cab you could put on top if you need that little extra? I don't know...If I going to build 2 more, I could build 4 new without the bullit and it will be smaller and lighter.... Help.... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 6:27pm
Ok no one wants to comment my bullit question, so here some new updates...      The new and old...   Nothing much that is different, the ring around the speaker on the front is now rubber, and a black label... |
Posted By: LunchieTey
Date Posted: 21 November 2008 at 2:37am
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I would have gone reflex from the start, you may or may not need the extra low extension for what you are doing but makes them flexible if ever you just want say 4 speakers on poles for background music/vocal etc. I also don't think it's worth having a bullet over a 1", not much gain for all the extra work(crossovers etc) and yes they would need a smaller front baffle overall! ------------- Speaker addict |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 22 November 2008 at 7:17pm
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Yeah you are right but I don't know how the drivers sound (p.audio bm-d450)... The drivers will arrive in a couple of weeks so I will do a test then... And it this dispersion question are nagging my mind...the RCF horn does a very good job with it's 90 degrees but you really thinks it's more! And if I (as some one here said) ad this bullit it will be strange....Highmid 90 degrees and high 40 degrees.... The sound in the bullit has this bit and hard accent, that I like, so I hope the driver sound somewhere there... Does some one here got any experience with those p.audio drivers? |
Posted By: LunchieTey
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 12:50am
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I had some behringer(b1020-the older stuff was a damn sight better than the latest junk) cabs with oem versions of the bm450's, and what appeared to be an oem eminence driver, and they were pretty good. I then used them in my 12" mid high cabs on a horn very similar to yours(p-audio ph-220) with good results before upgrading to p-audio sd-450n's. The sd's had slightly better extreme top end but we're really only talking 20% better. Seemed to handle a bit more power but that was only when I really pushed them to see if they could handle any more. When used normally in the system, there was no problems. On here they have a pretty good reputation for performance vs cost. ------------- Speaker addict |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 4:58am
Depends on the quality of the 1'' & how fine & sweet you want your system to sound.
Also the type of music you specialize in!
------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 8:26pm
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You're right about the sweetness, but still I'm not sure.... I will wait to build anything until the drivers showing up...and will decide soon... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 8:09pm
No drivers yet...  So I started thinking about this "V-shape" design, so I draw another one!  It's not done yet but for some time ago I find some pics and drawings of this "line array" horn path...and modded, and here we are... What do you think so far? |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 8:12pm
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Need a service door to the drivers... And vents... But what about the "horn"? Could it work? |
Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 10:05pm
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I've got sketches of something almost identical, except with a few differences (it uses a specific contour, planar drivers, and the BMS 4510 to avoid diff slot problems). Otherwise there is no reason why that shouldn't work. Check Steve Burton's site for more info re LAs (one of his pages features arrays such as the above). ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 10:36pm
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Nice, maby I will try this design then! Do you got any link to this Steve? I don't know who he is...tried to google but no... |
Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 10:50pm
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http://www.burton-manor.co.uk/Audio/Audio.htm - http://www.burton-manor.co.uk/Audio/Audio.htm Posts as Steve_B on this forum ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 16 December 2008 at 11:19pm
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Thank you! Interesting reading! And, as you said, one of his designs are very similar to mine! |
Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 1:00am
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I guess you could say that...I was referring to a drawing of my own that I'd made the other day. Something similar to yours would be Nexo Geo...or that other italian company that produces the 'butterfly'. ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 8:29am
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the drawing looks similar to something I've drawn as part of the Speakerplans Mid top project
------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 2:33pm
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Today I finished the V-shape design and started to build the rear horn part for the drivers. Probably going to build this design instead of four small cabs with bullits. So now I'm looking forward to test with my old drivers, if dispersion are alright. Pics later on... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 7:34pm
Done.      |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 December 2008 at 8:31pm
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Today I did a test with the 10" in angle, wow, this project are going to be awesome! It sounded really great! The mid almost got a coverage of 180 degrees. Next up is to complete the prototype of the horn to both drivers... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 29 December 2008 at 8:29pm
Prototyp done. Testing in my livingroom... Of course are the high going into the middle of the 10" but this is a test to see if the angle does it's job! Enjoy!      My old drivers are used here and the old sealed midcabs... And what a sound! Dispersion must be 120 degrees minimum. And no spots where you get any 3dB+ or something, just smoth and nice! So this combination really are the killer if you want big and wide coverage. Dispersion vertically is like I have predicted, narrow. Maby 20-30 degrees, so I have to use stuff to be able to tilt it. But I'm very happy with the results and are going to build these beast's if I just can find a warm place...outside it's now -23 degrees Celcius...a little bit to cold... Happy New Year! |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 29 December 2008 at 10:22pm
   ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 30 December 2008 at 11:47am
Yeah, really nice  I have seen your picture before and have to admit that you are a big inspiration with Renkus-Heinze and some glassfiber horns I have found on the net with 6" or 8" and 2 drivers at the back. How did your cabs perform Mirjam? |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 30 December 2008 at 2:37pm
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Considering that i have not so good HF drivers in the boxes (PSD2002) that don't allow me to cut them as low as i would like (1Khz) they are doing a great job. I am really satisfied but as i mentioned with better drivers (BMS 4550) and a slightly different HF horn they will be able to compete with the big boys. I use Eminence Delta12 for the mid/midlow part. Boxes are quasi 3 way. Which means that only one of the Deltas play up to 1.8KHz. The other one is playing up to 300Hz. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 January 2009 at 7:26pm
Mod... Because the drivers took so long time and I lost my job, I had to cancel my order. So for now I'm going to use our old drivers. And also did some changes with the vertical dispersion... Are going to start to build bass cabs in the weekend and these after that. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 12:22am
some useful tools...  Will put up pics of the build of the template tomorrow and maby we have time to cut out some pieces for our basshorns.... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 8:50pm
  My old man ...  Today did we some cut out and draw the template, will cut it tomorrow... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 8:18pm
    The template for our downscale 1850 horn, for Kappa 15 LF. With hornresp this driver is the ultimate one. Tried P.audio, RCF and PD drivers but the sim looked crap. |
Posted By: Silas ))))))
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 8:46pm
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Wicked project. Great tools as well
------------- power in the blood |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 9:22pm
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Thank's
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 February 2009 at 2:40am
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Swe, I'm confused
why a jig if you have a CNC?
or did the CNC make the jig for you to take away? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 11 February 2009 at 11:04am
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Hi, the thing is that at my dad's work, they got this cnc but nobody there can program it. And we got plywood with no god 90 degree angle, so we used one of the programs in it just to get the angel in one corner... And I can tell you that I would really like to learn how to program it, because the machine is fantastic! It can do 3D too! And everything would take 30 min for 4 cabs or so...but things are as they are. We will cut all the pieces tomorrow so more pics then... |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 11 February 2009 at 12:50pm
| are you making your own guide collar / bushing for your router there, or altering an old one? |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 11 February 2009 at 3:25pm
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We did our own out of brass
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 13 February 2009 at 12:35am
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Posted By: Joe_Kidd
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 12:37am
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That is an awsome effort. definatley an inspiration to do the job properly
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 15 February 2009 at 5:25pm
This is what we did yesterday and today.  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 20 February 2009 at 11:23am
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First cab done...we will have a little test today, but we don't have any highpass yet, the old man are constructing one right now, so it will be another test later with one....pics tonight... |
Posted By: Silas ))))))
Date Posted: 20 February 2009 at 11:36am
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Keep us posted, so is the cnc just left there unused at ur dads work then? Would be worth paying for an instructor to show someone eh? ------------- power in the blood |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 20 February 2009 at 1:25pm
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how much does ya dad want for that CNC?
you must be so excited, good on ya! ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 20 February 2009 at 9:06pm
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Yeah, I will research after the program so maby I just could put my cad drawing in to it! But here is what I have done for a while...      It is a downscale 1850 "15 inch" with some mod on the chamber. And because we only could be at the workshop at night I put it together at home Are going to do another one in this weekend... And we did some listening to! As expected, really "punchy" cab and with some freq sweep 20-500hz it did sound as the curve with hornresp. I would say that this could be used from 60-400hz without that "honk" and getting into x-mech, but this is my opinion. Everybody has their own taste and reference. R&B with very low bass did almost not exist. But dance music and rock, ride on! When we got our two cabs done, we are going to let them breath in a bigger place because the test was done in a small room and I could not give all I got. So the questions is, should we build 2 more, 4 total, or 2 scoop's under...and what should we name it? |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 21 February 2009 at 8:00am
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that would be a bit of a wasted 'longish' horn to put on scoops
for scoops you can get away with a straight kick horn or a 2 fold design
or everybodys favourite the HD15
I would build 2 more ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 21 February 2009 at 10:33am
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I know that it's a big cab for kick but now it's done so... More would go deeper, right? We could in the the future build some sub with 18" because it's hard to go low with this kappa because its x-max... And I got one more question, when I look at the x-max plot in hornresp, if the cone moving 10mm at some freq, and I do lets say -3dB with the in signal at the freq, would the cone just move 5mm then? |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 21 February 2009 at 9:55pm
Nr 2...  |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 12:39am
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interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!lol let me know how they perform lols any plans? cut sheet hahaha ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:53am
Yeah very interesting... a miniature.... LOL....
Nice build swesound!  ------------- Maximum Excursion Don't criticize your own competition, it looks like a publicity of your own commercial products. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:47pm
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Thank you, thank you! Plans maby will be released here after real testing... And things are getting pretty done, only the "door" left, right now I have to kick it in place...and some routing the corners everywhere and speakonplate...  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:57pm
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Posted By: boab
Date Posted: 22 February 2009 at 6:21pm
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Dont forget to put the front brace in. I once modeled the 1850 in ansys without the front brace and boy did it wobble. In particular the bottom panel will resonate heavily, can be used to musical effect though! try bashing it with a clenched fist and listen to it ring. boab |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 11:17am
We will probably do that but we did not have plywood enough... And we don't have massive power like everybody else here so right now the cabs will get 330w rms...1300w mono so when we get 4 cabs we will do a series / parallel to get 8 ohm mono...I think.... Old scool....  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 23 February 2009 at 9:19pm
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And I weight them today, 50kg. So right now I'm listening to my new "hifi" sterio  They sound very nice with a cut at 200 because that's probably where we gonna cut our 10"... And I downloaded a tone generator, and to my ears they start dropping at 70-80hz...not very good, but maby it's not much, would be best with a microphone. And up to 400hz ... But still are we going to test them in a bigger place, hopefully in this week  Because right now my neighbours don't like me... |
Posted By: gwarntek
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 4:36pm
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Excellent project! Big respects to you SweSound!
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 10:51pm
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Thank you sir! Maby we will wait with the testing in a bigger space, because we are almost done with a set of ply to 2 more cabs, and it would be sweet to hear them all together! So maby I will get them done in a couple of days, lets say a week until testing. And my old man are now done with the high-pass, only a box left to put it in. I will put up a pic on it when I get the chance to see it my self! |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 11:47pm
 I need a good name for this bass horn It can't be named "1550" because it's not made for the PD 1550, as in the 1850... Please help me! |
Posted By: gwarntek
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 11:51pm
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Hmmmm...
Something like your initials of you name come to mind, like ES18 by stapier
was gonna say SS but swesound is obviously not your name hahahaha
Il keep thinking...
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 4:10pm
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Hmm... that's a pretty good idea...I have to think about that But it feels little wrong, because it's original has Rog designed.... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 5:21pm
 Now it's time! The release! (not the most efficient cab ever but sounds very good) This cab is design for Eminence Kappa LF 18mm wood and the cut out with router 20mm wide and 6mm deep. So all internal pieces are 510mm...   This is a rough drawing of how you can cut your pieces. 3 sheets for 2 cabs  And to make a template...it's all cc  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 5:21pm
| And still, a real name please! |
Posted By: tea nut
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 5:41pm
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i reckon the hornet klf is a fine name for this project and if people tweak it for other drivers then the initials can b changed also... ------------- dont burn your shed down |
Posted By: breakdabeat pete
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 6:01pm
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those plans are tiny! any chance of getting them bigger? ------------- ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 6:52pm
| I can try, only got them in cad... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 7:29pm
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Bigger drawings updated... And use a high-pass at 50-53Hz because there's a cone peek at 14mm and x-mech are 10,4mm so this is important from 300w. |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 11:05am
| nice idea, if they really do sound fine up to 350hz they could be a very attractive option for anyone trying to get a kick cab that meets smaller (8" / 6.5") mid drivers on short horns. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 02 March 2009 at 10:01pm
Thank's! That was my goal when I started, up to at least 200hz, something I could use almost anywhere, live, hard rock night's and disco. Something for us that don't have huge amps and 10" or 8" in the top's  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 09 March 2009 at 1:29pm
Now I have been listening for a while and at home 200-250Hz is the best cut without any eq. Grand Funk Railroad are brutal in this cab! You can follow the bass guitar all the way up and down without any "dips" so it have to be quite flat response. I will get our eq tomorrow and plug it in to test it a bit further up because just flat it sounds...ehh...you start to get the low on speach, and it get quite awful, so more testing! (with our old tops) And cab 3 and 4 are still in in progress, we are cutting all the the peases. |
Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 10:29am
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heey swesound, that combination of 1 1550 with 1 top, isn't a little low? will you use 2 1550 on top of each other or a stand for the top?
btw, congrats with your birthday  ------------- Best regards, Teun. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 12:47pm
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Thank you! Yes of course it's too short! Only testing I had to sell my home cinema to afford bills, so this is now my home sterio, hehe, and call it testing We have cut another pair of 1550's now, a little pic will follow but photobucket are doing service or something so I can't login. We will probably lay down four cabs on the floor to get them go a little bit lower and use speakerstands for the mid/high cabs. That's next up...go with the V-shape or not, it will be very heavy... Have a nice day all, cause that's what I'm going to have! |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 3:20pm
 A new set |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 27 March 2009 at 5:24am
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awsome.......mate!
------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 28 March 2009 at 11:57pm
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Thank you! Now all four all build and got one layer of cheap black paint. All there is left, the service door. I have to get 2mm of because the "rubber seal" make the door to putting out a few mm. And paint on them. (I love my english )I even did a frame in the horn mouth with the same angle as the brace, for grills, so I don't need a full grill...cheap and looking goooood. Pics for you tomorrow! Over and out.  |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 29 March 2009 at 1:19pm
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Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 29 March 2009 at 3:16pm
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Posted By: breakdabeat pete
Date Posted: 29 March 2009 at 3:25pm
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looks nice do you think that these could be used as a cheaply loaded kick bin instead of hd15's for people that need to cross to mids higher than 160hz?? ------------- ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 29 March 2009 at 5:58pm
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Yes and no. Yes because the sound from them, I like it when I cross at 225hz...but with some eq you can use it higher like 350hz and eq down 250-350hz a few dB. No because they are big if you just want kick and hard to build if you are alone to do it and around 50kg loaded... BUT! This is a good cab if you got a couple 15" drivers and want high SPL and doesn't care about the sub part. And PERFECT to Kappa 15LF. It's an all-rounder that you can cross pretty high. I would guess that this cab is perfect for live and disco. Remember that this is my opinion and I have not done a test in big locals or outside yet. And I am not an professional, just some dud that hate to just doing nothing and an ex DJ. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 29 March 2009 at 10:40pm
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Ahhh...they do drop alot lower when using group of four...does it sound like anyway. I'm happy with the result. Before I was worried that they would not drop low enough for my taste...but they do. Inside here in my apartment... Next up, after some break from dust and sweat, handles maby and top cabs...at the moment I want to build the V-shape 10" with one driver instead of 2, to get some dispersion vertically. I have ordered two drivers now, P.audio BM-D450. The dud that was helping me to get those to Sweden did not know if it will be series 1 or 2 so that's going to be interesting. Will get them in 2 weeks. |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:13pm
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If I would go with MDF to my mid and hf, do I need 18 - 19mm? Or can I do it in 16mm...? The mids can do 1000W together (but I dont got that much amp) But it would be nice to know that the cab can handle it without wobbling... This is because the cab is going to be heavy anyway...or plywood? which is the lightest? |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:17pm
| I think you can use the thinner MDF if the design is braced fairly well or if there's natural bracing in the design. |
Posted By: Disco Stu
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:49pm
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Have you modelled Eminence 3015LF Neo in this design? Would cut down the weight a bit - if you did it in 12mm much more heavily braced it would also shave a fair bit of weight off. Stu ------------- All you need to know is: Sensitivity + Power Handling - Power Compression = Max Output My acts: www.myspace.com/thebowiexperience www.myspace.com/scheisseelektronisches |
Posted By: LjudLahger
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:27pm
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Ok thank's! I will look up that eminence driver in the 1550... |