FANE Colossus 1000.....Another NEW 1200 Driver out
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Topic: FANE Colossus 1000.....Another NEW 1200 Driver out
Posted By: CHAMPION
Subject: FANE Colossus 1000.....Another NEW 1200 Driver out
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:08am
http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf - http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf
 Should be getting some in from PD to test what they sound like in various cabs.
Did a re once on a Fane XB, quality of the cone kit was better than a cone kit from a apd186, and the right adeshives were used in the right places, on the whole it was a goo chassis to re cone.
They even use a aluminium lined inside the voice coil for thermal efficiency.
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:52am
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98db and 27Hz, thats looking pretty good
anything as low as 27 you would think the sensitivity would follow
do us a favour champ, when you recieve it, tap the cone in the center between dustcap and outer rim, and tell us if you here low thud or a fast hard sound, also from underneath with the tip of your finger? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:55am
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sorry 32, 27 is its usable fr ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 8:50am
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has anyone asked Roy bout these drivers?
how they came about? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 10:49am
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don't look to good in HR ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 11:15am
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A few members told me they were crap then another few told me there the dogs boll*cks!
Theyve been available to the public for a while now so anybody actually used them?
Is the motor system same as in Turbo's? Looks virtually the same from rear view! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 11:23am
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Il have one soon from PD, its deff Roys work, a member of PD staff has got hold of this driver and made them.
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 11:34am
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Champ let me know when u get it, be interesting to hear. ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 2:50pm
Quite a bit of talk about these, but I've heard the 4'' vc can't test the t/max's! Unless you like & prefer kick bass!
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tweeter box wrote:Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 3:04pm
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Should have them on Monday. Specs on paper are one thing, hearing what they are capable of is another.
Tweeter can you see if you have a 1850 spare ? ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 7:27pm
Oh! they have 4" vc! i see hhhmmmmm
just txt ya ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 9:50pm
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Just landed....
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 http://g.imageshack.us/img517/dsc07468ae2.jpg/1/ - The new generation Colossus 18-1000 watt AES high output sub bass driver makes its debut after a great deal of anticipation. The driver incorporates advanced thermal management in the form of a vented die cast chassis and motor system using an internal heat sink coupled with increased motor system and voice coil venting. This removes heat from the voice coil and results in extremely low power compression. This is sure to become a favourite for customers looking for extreme bass in ported enclosures.
http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf - http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 10 October 2008 at 9:54pm
Deff a fast hard sound, also the cone is not as stiff as a PD ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 7:40am
| thanks for the outta box test now waiting to see results when placed inside a cabinet. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 10:16am
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thanks champ,so a stiff cone but not as stiff as the 1850/
double spider?
it doesn't seem to have much low end in HR, any body else tried?
what is the silver ring below the terminals? looks interesting, that wouldn't be a plate with a spider on each side would it? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 10:22am
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can we have a better view of this http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc07468ae2no3.jpg - please champ?
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 12:59pm
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eagle eyed mykey lol, looks to me like the double suspension thingy! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 7:15pm
http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf - http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf
This is a coil from a Fane XB Coloussus unit, NOT a 1000XB !
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Posted By: Wrighty
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 8:33pm
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Looks like you've had an expensive day!!
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Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 10:26pm
| lovely amount of spacing between the spiders. |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 11:03pm
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oh dear, so not quite a turbomax in terms of un-break-ability then, in hr in scoops it does rather poorly relay, and with the above not the same driver by any respect to what it should've been if fane had got its head round the design properly.
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 8:30am
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This is a coil from a Fane XB Coloussus unit, NOT a 1000XB ! ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 9:52am
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Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 6:54pm
damn missed that should read things properly 
------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 7:00pm
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lol, ye i think he would of been a bit more pissed off if that were the case,
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 13 October 2008 at 9:59pm
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What iv found is the bass is more controled and has more linear, sound,slight more quality. A Fane XB600 on Steroids.
Compared to the PD186 which just chucks buckets loads of bass at you and sound that bit sweeter on the bottom end. i will be interesting the new PD186 driver coming soon. which will have improved cooling and plating issues .
Overall the XB1000 can take masses of power , yet it remains sensible. Abit Pricey on the whole.
id give it 7.5/10
------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 10:36am
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What is the retail price on the XB1000 Champ? ------------- 
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Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:49am
| So Champion, does the Fane 18-1000 come close to/ better than the turbomaxx 1000i in your opinion? |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 12:15pm
It no way near the Turbomax, it keeps its classic XB sound but having more power handling and better dottom end. Should be interesting in narrow or small chamber scoops, i.e Super scooper. The new Fanes also have a Xmax of 12.75mm compared to the 600XB which has 7.2mm !
Still testing ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 12:23pm
| ok thanks, what are you doing them for? Have you tested celestion frt fd or hdx? if so does it play better. I might have someone looking for 8x 1000w drivers. you can pm cheers |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 12:32pm
Marvin i have tested and heard the Celestion FTR 18" driver, they are not as good as the Fane ones. I can do the New Fane 1000's at a good price. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 6:11pm
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Just to let everyone know..Fane have developed a NEW 1200 version, which is in the same leauge as PD.1850, Void vs.1200 /1000, Turbomax 1200......From what iv heard it out performs the PD.1850 in quality and power.
I shall have them next...best part is they cost now where near the 1850, void and turbomax.
And to set the record straight it is not a rip off design of the turbomax technology.
At a first glance alot of peolples thoughts about the Fane 1000 driver is a copy of the Turbomax 900. But its not in the same group as them.
Lev this should be interesting...!!! Get your mini ice-creams ready ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 6:35pm
If it's approx same depth as 1850, and similiar parms to 18B, I'll know Mark took what I said to him seriously.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 7:06pm
| Fane seems to be spitting them out quickly ummm. I have one here myself but haven't gotten around to testing it though. Cooling seems very similar to turbo but need to put some signal through it and see what its saying. |
Posted By: DJC
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 7:34pm
I'll be round for some bench testing 
Was really impressed with the sound of 1000XB
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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:44am
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Price?? ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 1:03am
| price ranges and depends on quantity |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 1:11am
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Marvin! you bought a driver without listening to it?
I want that salesman working for me ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:20am
| come on now i might have a few brain issues from my accident but it is a loan demo unit and i dont buy in singles, multiples of 4. cheers bro |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 8:34am
Yes from what he tells me.. .. .. 1850 orders are being reduced .. ..inorder to keep up production and competitions. Fane units and PD units like i said in this post at the begining are will have new drivers to keep up with the likes of, Void, Turbomax, B&C, 18-sound.
The price on this new XB1200 is cheaper than a 1850, void and Turbomax.
Should be getting a few by the end of the week. If put up some info. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:30am
| cool Champ, can you take a few pics and post them up along with performance results cheers |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:34am
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Marv u tested it yet?
whats the driver sayin?
I bet it aint sayin nuttin ;) ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:47am
That's how it normally starts out then in a few months time, you hear the PD1850 still up there fighting back with no changes to the spec!
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:22am
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is it a 5" coil? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:25am
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Yep 5" coil with a copper clad Aluminium coil, reduces weight and improves sensitivity..99db ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:30am
Tek buddy...
1850 is an old dog now....sales orders are down...new drivers are out on the market. So from a business point of view, you must be infocus on future plans.
This new XB1200 drivers, plays dub,dance, and RnB music very musically with a heavy bottom end, ....but i will let me ears be the judge of that.
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:32am
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Sugar! 5'' vc sub driver competition's getting serious in time for xmas!
------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:37am
If you want il bring it round your to test in your mini's ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:41am
I agree & understand Champ!
1850's have always been too pricey, so not surprised sales are down, with all the new developments arising!
From a business point of view & being in focus on future plans of course it's all good, but so long as they can deliver the performance! Many come, & many go & pass on.
This XB1200 will have to very good as PD1850's ain't no push over!
Hope yourself & Marvin come back with some uplifting results!
------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 10:43am
TweeterB! you can't turn that down!
I wish I had mini's to try 'em in, but still ain't got them!
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 11:06am
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put your prices up please? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 11:53am
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why do I have 2 different T/S for the same driver?
both aren't looking good in a scoop, but fairplay, it does say ported enclosures
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 11:58am
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so which one is the real one Champ? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:31pm
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http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf - http://www.fane-acoustics.com/pdfs/Colossus18-1000_SpecSheet.pdf ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:44pm
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
something fishy going on here
change some numbers! but others stay the same.......THE MAGIC COLLOSSUS 1000
you should start selling my PDA's my man ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:51pm
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I take it you haven't studied it then champ? shall I tell them for you?
it's the bottom one guys  ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:51pm
I tought Insomina was your Rep..seeing as he has lost of your Horns.
You should make a "betterwear" catalouge of horns and porn..and get your chums to do a door to door round ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 12:57pm
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you should go and work for Andy, you'd make a good team, he doesn't know what he selling either numbers numbers pallets pallets ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 1:53pm
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if you read the post...it says i shall be getting some in this week...I can then share my review with you guys. Mike if you have already used these then please share your reviews on them. Who is your Jan Audio Dealer who has units in stock ? I keep getting asked, i point them in your direction and it seems its a dead end !! Sort it outmy man. Tell Martin to awnser the calls atleast ! Heres a link for you.... http://www.ddshorns.com/catalog.php?page=products ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:12pm
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all enquiries through jan audio come straight to my email, I probably only get 1 a week if that, and when i send the price, i don't hear from them again
so why should I bother
I send samples to the othersid eof the world for you to lose them
so why should I bother
i send a sh*t load on credit and pay the shipping my self (820.00 quid) to insomnia, and i haven't seen a penny, and he still hasen't answered me????????????
so why should I bother
and what does that comment mean above?
"I tought Insomina was your Rep..seeing as he has lost of your Horns."
some right dodgey characters on SP
please don't think I can't do anything guys because I'm here
we all have hand phones
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:18pm
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LOL @ u guys and your lovers tiffs.
okay, okay you can bring it round, let me get the e/c hooked up in the shed and ill give u a shout, i aready know it wont be a good driver!
Teks how many times before have u heard of a driver that eat the 1850? and how many of them actually did?
 1850 maybe the "old dog" but its still waaaaaaaaay up there in the top 3 SUB BASS drivers ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:24pm
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TB... I only say what the Company who made them say, PD/Fane...Marks words. ! I was abit reluctant at first too, but let see and find out.
------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:27pm
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cool man, i didnt mean nuttin in a rude way, once the electrics up n running bring it over n we'll give it a go
but seriously even without hearing it, my £10 says PD wins everytime! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 2:54pm
None! Have heard a lot of talk about it happening
You know what it takes to put this old dawg to sleep!
 Ultimate Sounds/Jamo! What's goin' on ? As a PD1850 lover what you reckon ?
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 3:28pm
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Tek... you know the 1850 has a grunty mean bottm end, what its know for...but its not musical or efficient. its time to improve all that.
that pic above Cross section....same voice coil spider assembly double layer,not sandwhiched togther... with improved coil, copper cladded aluminium, reducing weight and improving efficiency. and having more of a open cooling vent on the magnet.
Lev knows...the score ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 3:31pm
dude u just basically described a Turbo! ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 4:04pm
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What you want is spider on both ends, improved much smaller length vc with same 5" diameter, dual magnet, single gap, calculated for...oh wait
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 11:58pm
Yes the 1850 is not the most musical of speakers. And it takes 600w to get it moving. But IMHO @600W+, its the most efficient 5" VC 18" out there. If you want really musical and flat response, Bline 800, V18-1200 sound so nice in right cabs (Have'nt really blasted Turbomax 1000 in right scoop yet). If you want Hooligan sub SPL, PD1850, V18-1000 and Turbomax 1200 with enough power. But looks like Mark@Fane did listen to some of my suggestions, and the new Fane 1000 parameters make it less of an eminence speaker, and more of a FANE. If the driver plays as well as the specs sound, it will be much more muscial than PD1850 and V18-1000, but wont take the power they can, and wont fit into a lot of folded horns. However it should wipe out Bline 800, TBX100, Fane XB, Volts, PD186. Should also play nicely in reflex, scoops and Folded horns with big enough chambers, and sound even better in WSX than V18-1000. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 12 November 2008 at 1:37am
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all that was ever needed from Fane was a higher powered collossus 400 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 12 November 2008 at 2:00am
Keep telling people this exact same thing.  The below with 12mm Xmax, 5"VC, 1000W rms power handling. Can you believe this Beasty has 29.5 BL !!!!!!!!! Fs/qes off the chart, and Qts .197... Scoop Monster...
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 12 November 2008 at 11:34am
??? Would you like a demonstration of what a PD1850 sounds like with less than 1/2 of 600w sounds like ?
You may just be amazed.
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 10:52am
Great. Another one to try in Hogs. This is just getting Silly.  ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 12:50pm
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Looks like this new fane 1200 could be what im looking for. Really want some custom double 18 subs for some reason.
Its about time fane updated the 600w beauty
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 1:09pm
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I'm not sure I fully understand whats going on with this new Fane, no where on any of the specs on the links on this thread or the Fane website does it mention a 1200 watt driver. I have only seen two different sets of specs for the Colossus 18-1000, the latter seems to be a beefed up version with larger magnet. Why has the original 18-1000 been changed so soon, did it not perform as expected?
I'm confused -------------
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 2:02pm
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Static
if you look at some of the numbers, they haven't changed
when you change that many parameters, all the others change also
thats why i said, something fishy
maybe if they could put themselves out, they could come and explain ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 3:09pm
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Inded Mykey.
Just look at the pictures above, thats definately two different magnet assemblys on the drivers pictured, the bottom one being larger.
Is this for improved performance or just for looks? -------------
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 3:53pm
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This the one you get if you want to buy Colossus 1000.
Call Fane to confirm all ur Q's The top pic in Mike's post could of been a proto design where the image was taken from.
Iv put 1200W into this fane off 1 5002vz . Sounded very musical, i may try and clipping the Vz and measring at what point the coil goes pop. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Marvin
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 5:23pm
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champion beat me too it
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 5:59pm
Not confusing really.
Have a look back thru this thread, and then the first thread about ths driver a few months ago.
Have a look at the parameters I suggested then, and compare with the parameters of the latest version of this driver.
I have spoken to mailto:Mark@FANE - Mark_O @FANE in the past suggesting he bin the original driver, and update it to reflect more usable parms, equivalent to 18B on stereoids.
Watch what happens in PA scene, when the price drops on this baby to just below £200.
------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 6:24pm
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thanks Lev, but as it cleared things up?
In marvin's picture (thanks marv) the magnet looks superb, and bigger than the first picture
but it says the magnet weights are both 97Kg?
sensitivity is still the same 98db and usable frequency is still 27-
resonance is still 32, I suppose they have just rounded it off
Champ, was that in a cabinet, and for how long did you give it 1200? don't clip it, you can blow the best of drivers that way, just keep putting a clean 1200 into it and let us know the outcome?
does look promising, and I'm glad Fane is back on the scene
Lev, give up your day job and become the new Clive West  ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 6:49pm
Champ, do you have any premier scoops to test this in? Problem is, there are many cabs 1850 cant fit, and this is even deeper!? I guess we have to compare this with Turbomax 1000 first, to see if its premier league material, the top 4 drivers have been up there quite a while.
Not a chance... Still wincing about the £180 spent on my mdf prototype scoop.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 8:41am
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Marvin - .......Im getting confussed now..This post started off about the Fane colossus 1000...and now theres another driver which should be turninng up today ....the 1200 colossus.
In all my pics here its the colossus 1000.
Mike - It was played for about 2 days over a weeknd wen we had a bit of sunshine....running off the Crown. The PD bottom end is very aggrasive..this fane is much more controled..and plays the "ups" and "downs" ...very well.
Lev- At the mom iv got Tweeters mini scoop....T-18.... B&C sub 18.....il have to ask matey for a RX18 scoop. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 9:04am
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RIGHT HERE IT COMES....Ts ON THE NEW Colossus 1200 NOT colossus 1000
Parameter Description Measurement Unit
Total Box Volume (Box, Cone and Disk). ................................. = 192.322 liters
Total Box Volume (Box, Cone and Disk). ................................. = 6.792 cu ft Fsa Free-air resonant frequency of driver. .............................. = 33.750 Hz
Z(Fsa) Free-air impedance at resonant frequency of driver. .... = 148.379Ohms Re DC electrical resistance of voice coil. ................................... = 5.300 Ohms Qms Q of driver at Fs considering mechanical losses only. ....... = 6.999 Qes Q of driver at Fs considering electrical resistance only. ..... = 0.259 Qts Q of driver at Fs considering all driver losses. .................... = 0.250 Fs Resonant frequency of driver including air load. ................... =46.875 Hz Z(Fs) Impedance at resonant frequency of driver including air load. .... = 145.836 Ohms Qmct Q of driver at Fsa considering mechanical losses only. ................ = 9.452 Qect Q of driver at Fsa considering electrical resistance only. ............. = 0.356 Vas Volume of air having the same acoustic compliance as driver suspension. = 174.908 L Cms Mechanical compliance of the driver suspension. ........................ = 0.090 mN/m
Mms Mechanical mass of diaphragm cone assembly including reactive air load. = 246.954g Bl Motor strength-the product of B times l. ............................... = 32.718 Tm No Reference efficiency of driver. .............................................. = 6.709 % Sd Effective surface area of the driver cone. ............................. = 1178.412 cm^2 Sp Reference power sensitivity of the driver. ............................ = 111.027 dB So Reference voltage sensitivity of the driver. .......................... = 97.884 dB Lvc Voice coil inductance. .......................................................... = 0.096 mH TURBOMAX INFO
http://www.recones.com/Royal/1200i.html - http://www.recones.com/Royal/1200i.html
http://www.recones.com/Royal/900hx.html - http://www.recones.com/Royal/900hx.html
PD.1850 INFO
http://www.precision-devices.com/showdetails.asp?id=15 - http://www.precision-devices.com/showdetails.asp?id=15
VOID VS1200 INFO
http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/V18-1200.jpg - http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/V18-1200.jpg
ps. good morning !
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 9:22am
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 9:34am
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......about 13.1mm
What you think so far ???
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:10am
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looks great
HR finds BL lower at 28 though?
CMS HR makes it '8.84E-05'
MMD works out roughly 17% less than MMS
according to the TS............
CMS 9.00E-02 coming out at 8.84E-05
BL 32.71 28.04
MMS 246.97 MMD 107.27
It's ending up with that CLASSIC dip that you get from the 1850
you don't get that with the V1200 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:11am
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can someone else have a go? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:39am
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so is this driver just a turbo maxx 1200 then???? ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:42am
the best of both..1850 and turbomax ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:46am
http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/cc188/Blakmansoundsystems/?action=view¤t=pan1.jpg">  i´l just get my pc forgot it up the tree ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 11:51am
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sounds good,i got 2 spare RXs loaded with fanes xb for when we do smaller venues and they polay a lot more tune fully than the 1850s but we all like the 1850 for 1` reason and when u wind it up to over 800/900 a box u know why they have been up there for ages,
i am up for a testing session any time, can bring 6 RXs, been wanting to try turbos or now the new fanes in the ASS scoops for a while ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 12:08pm
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@Champion these new 1200s look "really good", as long they are not priced out of the market.
If the driver plays as the specs look, it should really be up there in the top 4.
Does this one have 5"VC? Looks more like 4" with that efficiency.
The qts, Vas, BL, Xmax and fs/qes of the * NEW * Fane 1200, dictates it should be absolutely smoking in the RX18. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 12:12pm
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lets go then guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 12:13pm
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be good to have 6 together with different drivers on same amp for a proper ab test ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 1:41pm
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so all we need now is a price!
PAP are doing V18-1200's for 215 on ebay right now, i reckon if i went to poole with 400-410 notes i could walk away with 2 units. can you beat that price for a fane 1200 champ? |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 1:50pm
is that the 1000, or the 1200? because the 1000 says 4" on the spec sheet. |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 1:56pm
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I sure can..When your ready to order let me know ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 1:58pm
Yea see why its getting confusing for new ppl jumping on the post...
4" coil on the colossus 1000
5" coil on the colossus 1200
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 2:04pm
Whats the bolt patterm matey?
Is it the regular Fane, or somehow magically PD compatible !?  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 2:07pm
ahh so the 1200 is 5"......and you can do a better deal on them too, this is starting to sound like a match made in heaven, 1200w fanes in my Hogs, i wont even have to change the bolt pattern or cut bits out of the box to make them fit. nice! just got to sell a couple of other drivers i've got here to make funds and space first. |