Martin Brother Audio
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Topic: Martin Brother Audio
Posted By: justamadman
Subject: Martin Brother Audio
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:10am
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what are they all about, they seem to be selling martin audio kit, is it an offshoot of Martin audio???
------------- in front of the bass bins baby |
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Posted By: Bespoke
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:11am
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Its not real martin kit, this has been covered before i think ------------- Gone |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:11am
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chinese copies i think
martin looking cabs, not martin sounding cabs ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: justamadman
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:24am
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why don't the real deal prosecute? it's quite obvioulsy copyright infringement.
------------- in front of the bass bins baby |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 5:33am
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Dave Martins Chinese Brother from a different Mother - SNIDE's.
Who knows what will be next Funktion Two?
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Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 11:30am
hahahaha. wouldnt be surprised. i wish the chinese would put their efforts into coming up with their own ideas. killing well established firms from the west and not coming up with anything good enough to take over once they have wiped us out.
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H... wrote:Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 11:36am
hense the name Martin Brother
It's sound awefull bythe way
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:03pm
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I covered this last year
http://imageshack.us">  http://g.imageshack.us/img152/martinbrotherbadgebi8.jpg/1/">  ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:06pm
myke please clear your messenger its full again.. ------------- Maximum Excursion Don't criticize your own competition, it looks like a publicity of your own commercial products. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:13pm
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It's not, weird ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:32pm
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That grill doesn't look as though it's open enough, probably 40% open area, maybe even less. Yea' I know, trust Markie to notice that!!! ------------- If it's got wheels or tits it's gonna cost a fortune |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 6:18pm
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"Who knows what will be next Funktion Two?" im banking on turbo-soundalike personally. ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 6:23pm
wow, that grill looks so whack and the logo too. looks paper, very cheap |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 12:32am
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the orange piece is part of the left over sticky back tape
the grill looks almost 50%, and you need to be more than 50% transparency for sound to travel through it, and as you can see, there is foam behind that also
I've had a close up of all this kit, and trust me, the build quality is spot on
and only from the badge and the terrible sound, you know it's not genuin ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 6:48pm
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Mykey, i am seriously considering a purchase of 8-12 of their W8C boxes. Do you think that with a better EQ/processing they can sound better? I was doing the math that if i had to change all the drivers it wouldn't cost me more than 700-800 EUR per box total. That is as far as i am concerned a very good solution for getting a good line array system. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 7:06pm
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Don't you mean W8L/W8LC/etc? W8C is a horn loaded trap mid top. ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 9:08pm
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Yeah W8LC would be.
------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: justamadman
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 12:47am
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but are they clones or look alikes???
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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 1:00am
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they got some balls these guys http://www.martin-brother.com/about/design2.html - http://www.martin-brother.com/about/design2.html Thave just cut and pasted it from the martin audio site (click about) http://www.martin-audio.com/ - http://www.martin-audio.com/ ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 3:59am
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if you changed the drivers and badge, you would save a fortune, and nobody would know the difference
you did't hear that from me ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Bespoke
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 4:28am
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I've just tryed to email them - NOPE DONT WORK - ------------- Gone |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 5:24am
how about this  http://www.3bdio.com/3bdio-new-1/PRODUCTS/pro.audio/speaker/VF-series/index-VF-1.html - http://www.3bdio.com/ Matrix array? |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 10:06am
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Classic Engrish! Love it! "...which make the whole system outstanding with wide frequency response,long distance spread,strong passing tweeter,powerful woofer and big coverage." Yes please! Seriously. Can these boys not even afford a TEFL worker? Nuff of my mates went and did that in China. ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 10:08am
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Bespoke, try n imagine an unhappy bloke sat in a factory with a phrase book open looking for the section entitled "Loudspeaker Design" and not having much luck :) ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 11:45am
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There are bunch of companies that make Martin copies. Some in China, but some are in Europe. http://www.next-proaudio.com/product_info.php?products_id=2&nextId=b18f8955e5021f3fd4e760610098dab5 ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 11:58am
| problem with buying these and replacing the drivers would be that there is probably no screws in the entire build. and the glue is probably that nasty stuff that never quite cures properly. not to mention the timber is probably 5 ply 12mm at best. covered in lots of paint to hide the gaps. with no prestige image to maintain, this company wont give a sh*t whether the cabinets last or not. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 12:09pm
 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: chilli
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 12:46pm
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that grille is exactly the same as the ones on the real things, and i think its about 49% free air (according to martin anyway) looks the same pitch/hole size and the badge with the paper underneath is the same as well, the w8c's use phl drivers, so you can rest assured that they arent going to sound like th real thing. mykey, did you say you've actually seen these? ------------- Money can't buy you happiness, but it can allow you to be miserable in comfort. |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:11pm
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The grille? Er no ::goes off to take photo of real martin grille:: ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:17pm
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yes chilli seen heard and touched someone mentioned bad workmanship, a big wrong there you can't tell the difference my friend ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:17pm
holes are clearly bigger. this is a h3 midtop ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:18pm
------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: chris_k
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:53pm
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This is what happens when a big company goes to China with full specs, plans. Gets them to make a few hundred cabs then pulls the plug for some reason. What the company gonna do? Bin the plans? This whole debacle has cost Martin greatly as far as ive heard. Mikey is right, the build on on these cabs is spot on. i saw some a couple of days ago in a local PA dealer. They weren't for sale just been obtained with a shipment of their own stuff from China. Even the drivers LOOKED the same. Whether they sound the same is another matter! |
Posted By: the smf
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 3:04pm
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china thrives on copies
if theres demand, they'll do it, its the centre of the fakes/copies industry, watched some program on ch4 about it a while back, they can even make fake chicken eggs!!!!! ------------- Existenze Records - http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/downloadstore/release/6625 |
Posted By: CLsystems
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 3:49pm
| Dave must be spinning in his grave....... |
Posted By: everdark
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 9:40pm
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Great upgrade since rotten-free socks
------------- music is the only language I really know |
Posted By: everdark
Date Posted: 07 November 2008 at 9:43pm
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btw http://www.ibo-proaudio.com/product-w.htm
------------- music is the only language I really know |
Posted By: DeVision
Date Posted: 09 November 2008 at 9:04pm
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http://www.martin-brother.com/product%20pictures/W8LM-2.htm or martin audio http://www.martin-audio.com/tourandprof/images/W8LMD.gif now the look the driver that are installed in it: martin b. & fukai pro - http://img.alibaba.com/photo/212643733/FK_8PS21_Woofer.jpg matrin audio - http://www.bcspeakers.com/download/prodotti/PDF/more/150.pdf or neodium - http://www.bcspeakers.com/index.php?sez=1&categoria=2&id_descrizione=44&prodotto=54 what do u think?:) I have the B&C drivers the sound is...like martin audio |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 4:37am
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devision
are you Martin Brother sh*t audio? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Centauri
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 4:47am
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The linked picture of the FK (can think of something that could be short for, but won't type it here ... ) 8PS21 IS B&C's photo of their 8PS21 with a photoshopped rear label.... I heard that a guy I know got a couple of the small line array copies to look at, and he spent about 3 days analysing and equalising them and said they then sounded pretty good - did hear that they were made from MDF and not ply though. This blatant large-scale copying of other's designs should be stamped out, and the large manufacturers would lessen the demand for these copies if they priced their own product realistically... |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 5:05am
"if they priced their own product realistically..."
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 5:05am
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the Martin reps would have to drive Mini coopers instead of Audi TT's ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: DeVision
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 5:10pm
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Mykey no...are U? if i had the chance to test them on staff like lab gruppen dbx dsp processor... for a day or 2...i think then they sounded good or maybe not..:D
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Posted By: Nox
Date Posted: 06 February 2009 at 6:29pm
Anyone wanna buy baby milk from China?
------------- "We've got lumps of it round the back". |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:32pm
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I was at Martin audio today and I asked what had happened about this situation and was really surprised to be told there was nothing they could do about it because none of the Martin audio stuff was patented? so they have now modified the entire range of stuff they make and applied patent's to the lot! Sorry to drag the thread from the grave but thought some of you might be interested! ------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
Posted By: S DeXter
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 11:04pm
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Even with patents the chinese are still at it. I don't think they really care. When they become better than us at designing pro audio (which they will), we will have to copy it....
------------- Enjoy your self...... It's later than you think....... |
Posted By: vmh
Date Posted: 03 January 2011 at 1:45pm
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Does anyone have any photos of the martin brother H3 they can post as the ones on the website are crap. |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 03 January 2011 at 2:54pm
ban him ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 03 January 2011 at 3:11pm
You'll find some better picture's of the H3 here: http://www.martin-audio.com/products/H3+.asp - http://www.martin-audio.com/products/H3+.asp ------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
Posted By: Spartan Audio
Date Posted: 03 January 2011 at 3:26pm
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Posted By: vmh
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:08pm
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Ha Ha.. I cant get through to them on email so i figure they have stopped trading now anyway! |
Posted By: vmh
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 4:21pm
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Err just seen this too. http://qalcanada.com/txm Is anyone not copying martin audio? |
Posted By: infamousj
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 5:27pm
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I'm not... Mind you, I've been following these forums for a couple years now and have yet to successfully design anything... Lately I just have not had much time as I'm now an Electronics Engineering Student at RCC in Toronto, and seeing as how I've been out of school for 16yrs It's been rough finding time for anything but the kids and homework. When I finally some designs together and prototyped I've already got a company name picked out and am hoping that they look distinct enough to not be considered copies. The big tough point right now seems to be finding suppliers ( 18mm Birch ply @ $150ish CDN per sheet sucks ), and getting better with Hornresp.
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 7:12pm
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150 cnd for a sheet of plywood? You gotta be kidding me. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: atisimi
Date Posted: 08 January 2011 at 11:24pm
Forgive me for the comment but if you planing to build professional audio speakers for profit, a market research would be beneficial to find out the competitors on the current market. How long they been on the market and how they making money? Yorkville company http://www.yorkville.com near to your location, building boxes from a cost effective plywood then texture painting or covers with carpet. Not all bins have been built from Baltic Birch plywood ! To target a cost effective market, then I'd say get general construction pine plywood for 27 CAD at any Home Depot (or 22 CAD on the larger order) use it for internal walls of the box. Same ply can be used if box will be covered with carpet or epoxy texture paint. For greater quality and esthetics Baltic Birch plywood can be used only for visible outside walls of the box. |
Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 7:55am
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He probably isn't joking on cost because I'm in the Southern US and it is $$ here also. atisimi - that pine is usually complete crap. Though I did get some 1/2 x 4 for some picture frames and it was superb. I realized as I was putting it together that it came from New Zealand! Understand my state (alabama) is covered in pine... thank you US congress for protecting us... Everything is a copy! So dont worry about it and do your own thing. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 12:48pm
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Pm me about the birch plywood. You are looking at the wrong place. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: atisimi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 2:40pm
Way I described in my previous post above, I personally have built 15 years ago many professional speaker cabinets and far as I know they are still in good shape and in use in City Of Toronto and for touring at Southern Ontario Province in Canada. I have never paid more than 50 CAD for sheet of birch. The pine plywood what they selling here for general construction use is just fine. To prove a cost, I'm unable to get pricing trough Internet from Home Depot, price is available only at local store but Canadian owned Rona posting they cost on the item, see it here: http://www.rona.ca/shop/~plywood-birch-plywood-canwel-347282_!plywood_shop |
Posted By: infamousj
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 4:27pm
Starting to seem like I may have accidentally hijacked this thread, if so.... Sorry for that  ... Is it maybe possible for a mod to pull the ply pricing posts out and put them into a new separate thread?To clarify, $150ish CDN if i remember right is a rough guess with taxes in, on a 5x10 (foot) multi laminate 18mm sheet, I haven't actually checked the price in about a year from the ply supplier I found in Scarborough (Toronto), with a very similar price at my local Home Hardware. MDF on the other hand can be had at my local Home depot for less than $40CDN on a 4x8 sheet of i think 11/16 (inch). I have rolled around the idea of fiberglassing the visible areas as I have seen it on here and with a good painting on inside panels could reduce moisture problems when using MDF, however weight becomes a huge issue. Edit... spelling |
Posted By: atisimi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 8:06pm
5 X 10 is custom size. ( Some people special order to home made 5 X 9 table tennis). Standard measure for the sheet in North America is 4 X 8. For cost saving, when possible use a standard stuff that is mass produced. |
Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 8:20pm
No, they both are standard sizes amongst many others, but 4x8 is more common. |
Posted By: atisimi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 8:57pm
Also, why isn't a 5X10 a shelf item here in South Ontario, Canada? Why is that for most hardware stores / lumber yards takes a special order to get 5X10? Since we sidetrack this topic, may I ask what's the cost for "standard" Birch 5 X10 sheet over at UK? |
Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 9:06pm
I'll check the price tomorrow. But here from Finnish birch ply maker, their standard sizes: PANEL SIZES 1200/1250/1500 mm x 1200//1250/1500/1800/2100/2400/2500/2650/2700/3000/ 3600 mm 1220/1525 mm x 1220/1525/2440/3050/3660 mm Maximum size of the KingSize panels: 12,000 x 2,700 mm |
Posted By: atisimi
Date Posted: 09 January 2011 at 9:11pm
And they all everyday shelf items? No waiting, same day delivery? As for the pricing info, thanks in advance and looking forward to read your post |
Posted By: Eragon
Date Posted: 29 April 2025 at 7:07pm
| Hello greetings to all, I know it's an old thread but I'm interested in this model so much so that I already requested a price from one of these Chinese companies, but haven't they thought that the original designers, in this case Martin, sells them the information or plans and that way they recover the money invested in engineering. Added to that is the fact that the original product has not been sold as Martin expected and I know and it is not supposed to sound the same but where I quoted it it has active and passive and the woofers are the opposite, meaning the Chinese must have done some kind of test, I understand and I think that added to that the more than 15 years that they have been cloning or copying them, they must have made some changes to them, I see this like medicines that practically all come generic |