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Topic: FFA Amps
Posted By: CHAMPION
Subject: FFA Amps
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 12:46am
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http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_ffa5000.html - http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_ffa5000.html
Heard these were the Bees, better than MC2, and Labs..esp on the Bottom end, a warmer deep sound.
Anyone used them ? ? ? ? ------------- Sticks n Stones |
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Posted By: justamadman
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 1:42am
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not used them but my mate has some
------------- in front of the bass bins baby |
Posted By: Bespoke
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 2:44am
Good but the XP5000 is what its all about now  ------------- Gone |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 8:48pm
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The FFA-5000 was our first amplifier design and was first built in 2003, we don't make the FFA-5000 anymore and this model has been superceded by our FFA-6000, The FFA-5000 is a proper 2 x 2500W at 2 Ohm amp and has our dual power supply system which all our bass application amplifiers feature. We still warranty these amp amps and very few ever come back for service.
All the best
Dave
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 9:03pm
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Dave i would be interested in putting a FFA to run 4 or 6 scoops loaded with turbomax, or pd.1850 ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 8:30am
| pm sent all the best Dave |
Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 10:16am
Certainly one of the better sounding systems in the Sancho Panza tent at last years glade festival was FFA powered.  such a lovely colour too..................... |
Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 12:35pm
can i get some info on this amp please ------------- n^2 modulo -P = number wang |
Bespoke wrote:Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 12:57pm
give it a rest bessy, anyone would think you are on commision.... any amp question and its always this generic reply.
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Posted By: DJC
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 2:37pm
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I'm feeling a purple and blue rack for next year. Posted By: Jack The Nutt
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 4:01pm
| Only slight moan about ffa is the air gap at the front is quite large as can be seen in pics, I worry a washer / 50p or other random object may get inside amp. |
Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 20 December 2008 at 12:39am
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They sound brilliant running sub, mid or high. With oodles of headroom. There's no way anybody could possibly be dissapointed with them. I rate them above labs, chevin, mc2........just about everything else really.
------------- Symmetry Soundsystem |
Posted By: Steak'n'ale
Date Posted: 20 December 2008 at 10:40am
| Do FFAs sound better now purple is the trendy colour. Will they sound 'last season' in about March? |
Posted By: nomis
Date Posted: 20 December 2008 at 11:12am
| style never goes out of fashion |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 20 December 2008 at 11:52am
| FFA have been magenta since 2003.. we wanted an anodised finish and the colour we chose was the only one left that other manufacturers were not using.. we also hoped - besides the sound - that our products would be instantly recognisable.. In March we are launching some brand new amp designs as with other amplifiers all designed and manufactured in the UK, we hope these will complement our existing high end bass amps.. |
Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 21 December 2008 at 12:39pm
Mi cuz has got these ffa,s 
swapped out his workhorse yamaha,s
and tried and tested crest 7001/8001/9001 so i would have to say they do a very tidy job indeed
  ps im not sponsored
yet LOL ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |
Posted By: Subzero-av
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 12:19am
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I have owned several FFA amplifiers since they began and have never mistaken one as an electric meter or vending machine!!! Keep small children away!!
These amplifiers require a good airflow with little resistance for cooling hence the large air intake.
I agree that these amps are fantastic and there's not much else out there to compare!
All the best
Simon
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Posted By: Subzero-av
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 12:25am
Please allow me to correct myself as the air intake is actually the air outlet. Sorry Dave...
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 12:56am
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all good then.,,,,,Dave i will be seeing you next year for a demo and purchase   ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 7:48am
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Cool - look forward to it. We should have our new FFA-4004 (4 x 1000W) and FFA-6004 (4x1500W) amplifiers finished by then to demo as well.
Seasons greetings!
All the best
Dave
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 9:12am
There are a lot of amps you have'nt heard then.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Ryan H
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 12:47pm
| I've got 2x FFA8000 and 2x FFA6000. Had them for about 2 years now and never had any problems, definatly the best amps i've ever used. Fantastic sound and build quality. |
Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 10:19pm
What did you have in mind? ------------- Symmetry Soundsystem |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 22 December 2008 at 10:33pm
JTS UA6/US6, Nathon HI-1400. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: roadkill
Date Posted: 26 December 2008 at 5:42pm
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We have been running for 3 months the FFA-10000 on our L'Acoustic SB28's 2 x 2x18 per channel at 2 Ohms and these where pretty sluggish on the Lab6400 even when we ran these at 4 Ohms - all change now and the SB28 is now a completely different bass bin when driven with the FFA-10000, we are extremely pleased with the amp and will buying more! cheers Ian
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Posted By: rich21
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 3:22pm
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i got 2 of them FFA10000 a very nice bit of kit ! the best bit is 1 FFA10 = 10,000w and about 10kg and sounds the nuts or 2 crown ma5000 = 10,000 w and about 15tonne and sounds OK no more pain moving your sub racks Rich |
Posted By: tallmike
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 4:33pm
| We used an FFA-10000 recently to run four Quakes, and was very impressed. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 4:53pm
waaaoooow 10,000w and only 10kg!
Rich when u suing it next, would be interested in a listen
any feedback on the FFa 5000 @ 4ohms? ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 5:02pm
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Sorry Rich, the FFA-10000 weigh's 12kg, I would'nt want anyone to get the wrong impression....
Cheers Dave
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Posted By: chemicalabuse
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 5:13pm
| just wondring (for a future purchase) what price range these amplifiers come in at perticualy the ffa 8.0 |
Posted By: rich21
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 10:18pm
opps my bad ... still thats 833.3 watts per kilogram compared with the crown @ just 138.8 watts per kilogram |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 11:18pm
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hmmmm if only i had the cash, a pair of 6004's would be rather interesting over 8 scoops
------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 8:44am
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Hi sKs01
Unless you need level control on specifc bass cabs, i'm positive the FFA-10000 would be more suited to this application and give more power per scoop. It would be also more cost effective to buy one FFA-10000 as this amp would power all 8 scoops comfortably instead of a pair of FFA-6004 (4x1500W 4 Ohm).
All the best Dave
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Posted By: Sound4hirecouk
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 3:22pm
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Hi, If anyone would like a demo of any of the FFA amps, get in touch. I'm happy to come to a gig for a demo, either a full rack or just one amp. We have the full range in stock and once the 4 channels are ready for demo we will have them also. Brett |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 3:52pm
Has anyone A/B 4-8 scoops on Inf8 Mk2 vs 9001 vs FFA 10,000? Dave, what is max power consumption/current draw, @ 240V, for 20hz-20khz, @ 2ohms stereo for:- a)FFA-5000 b)FFA-6000 c)FFA-10000 Cheers. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 4:35pm
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cost effective may well be true, however im looking to try and use higher impedance, running an amp to 2r is not a desirable situation for me owing to current draw restraints in certain venues and trying to reduce exessive wear on the amp due to running an amp at such low impedance, im assuming the 6004 will have two independent psu's though
------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 5:41pm
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sKs01, i understand your restrictions with current consumption, our four channel amps have single power supply which is more than adequate for power output required for this design. Please expand on your statement with regards to excessive wear on the amplifier? D
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Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:40pm
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by running an amplifier at a lower impedance im lead to belive the likleyhood of amp falure is increased due to more heat being disapeted by running at lower impedances (cant find article at the moment found from a link from norty 303 or at least he aluded to and then i wen tof searching, cant remeber which) with a heavweight ampa im currently using its not practical to be able to run like this as with the amps id be using id end up with 120 odd kilos of bass and low mid amp to run around with me, if i do make a switch over to lightweights sometime in the next year id like to be able to have more redundancy with the amps rather than needing to ragg them continously. ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:16pm
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Hi SKs01 do you have a name besides SKs01? We have built our company on our amplifiers 2 Ohm drive ability. Our first big customer needed an amp to drive his Funktion One F218s, 2 per channel all night long at full power and this was because he would use upto 50 x F218 cabinets at one gig, he wanted to use the minimum ammount of amps needed to power all the cabinets but with no sound quality degridation. Yes the amps get warmer when used at 2 Ohms but we have factored this in with the choice of components we use in the design. With regards to redundancy all our bass application amplifiers are dual mono with each channel totally independant so this offers redundancy by default.
cheers dave
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Posted By: andyamp
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:17pm
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It all depends on whether the amp is developed to run at 2 ohms.
------------- a wise man changes his mind a fool does not. http://www.matrixamplification.com/ - http://www.matrixamplification.com/ |
Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:36pm
dan cooper is my name, sKs01 just happens to be a handle ive been using for years on the Internet as for something i needed a name with a number in it, im crap at remembering passwords for forums etc  , its interesting to note that Dave, you've intrigued me yet further, nice bit o purple might be an option once we've sorted ourselves into a proper shape. is their a link to a set of documents as all i can see when going on your site is the front page im assuming its just not up and running yet. ------------- You're a big man, but you're in bad shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself. |
Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:43pm
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For a lot of guys the biggest hurdle is the humble 13amp plug.... What are you guys looking at for the future. Amps with multiple power inlets..? ------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs" |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 8:10pm
| Yes - Ford our dual mono amps have dual power inputs (how did nye go?). Our websites not up yet as we useless at that kind of thing and have concentrated on our amplifier designs. should have website done by the spring though i said that last summer.. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 8:12pm
Dave, still waiting for requested figures. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 12:47am
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New Year, went fine, technically spot on even, plenty of height so excellent dispersion, less is more bass kept all the funky house vocals and big piano's nice and clean. 600 people drank 1200 peoples booze and deteriorated into a random mess. The main room became a dangerous spilt drink ice rink. The carpeted back room was rammed and thumped it. strike one too the 1850 loaded txd's. The two flights back up and out were a bore, Coloursound were cool. Apologies to Alan, the Urban nerds thing did my head in the end. On, off, this venue ,that venue, one room, two rooms, its on, its off.... I ended up booking and cancelling so much kit it became an embarrassment. Poor kids though well stitched by Shoreditch licensing. Lev the energy going into this quest for the ultimate amp. Can it possibly be harnessed and hooked up to Rensaab's block of scoops.?  ------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs" |
Posted By: SteveAATW
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 12:51am
| Take it the licensing shenanigans hit their numbers, normally sold out isn't it? |
Posted By: Dave M
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 8:50am
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Full Fat Audio are now on Facebook! |
Posted By: Jack The Nutt
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 1:36pm
link please
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 2:05pm
My scoops are same builder, and pretty much same design as Rens.  My needs are now quite small and less stringent; 2kwpc @ 4 ohms stereo @ 40hz are all I ask of a sub amp now. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 3:46pm
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Sorry to de-rail the thread, but there's one thing I've never understood. You ask for an amp that can supply 2KW per channel at 4 ohms at 40Hz. However, the impedance of many 18" drivers seems to approach around 40 ohms at 40Hz. So if you got an amp that met your requirements, surely the actual power supplied to the speakers by the amp would be well below 1KW at this frequency? |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:01pm
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The peak on a speaker spec sheets is measured normally with the driver
just on a baffle, it will change when you load it in a box, with horns
the more you stack them the more the impedance levels out.
------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 4:05pm
| Nice one cheers, thought it was something along those lines :) |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 6:00pm
Also, to put this in perspective, (assuming torroidial trasnformer), I would say the closest (Branded) amps to this right in descending order are, Void Inf 7 Mk2 Crown VZ5000 Crest CA18 ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: simo69
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:53pm
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They are stunning..!! |
Posted By: simo69
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:57pm
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... beware of the New FFA10000..
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Posted By: rich21
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 11:00pm
did cook all your subs ? use the force next time (or the volume control) |
Posted By: simo69
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 11:06pm
| no.. don't own one yet.. but heard wicked reports.. knocks ya socks off...!!!! |
Posted By: SoundAT
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 7:39pm
| does anyone know the slew rate of the FFA amplifiers, it doesnt spec it on the website ? |
Posted By: Vibration Creation
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 2:54pm
Hi Dave, wouldn't running 2 x F218 from one
channel of a FFA 10000 be pushing the amp to around 1 Ohm? The F-218 has
two 8 ohm drivers running at 4 ohm total so adding one more driver would make 2
ohms? yes? I am looking to power 16 (8 a side) F-218s and figured
that I would have to wire 3 drivers to a channel (1 and a half bins) at
the moment the best way I can see is to use
4 x FFA 10000 running at 2Ω
running 3 drivers per channel, and on top of the stack use 1 x FFA
6004 running at 8 Ω running 1 driver a channel got any better suggestions? Maybe I have been awake to long but I definitely
don’t want to push my amps to much especially when the ambient temperature
often reaches high 30s and even 40 deg around here and dust doesn’t help cool
gear either.
------------- Happy Everday |
Posted By: Big-G
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 3:11pm
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If all the drivers are the same impedance then just divide the impedance of 1 driver by the number of drivers in parallel, 8 divided by 4 = 2 or 8 divided by 3 = 2.66 ------------- They know what is what but they don't know what is what they just strut what the  .
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Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 10 January 2011 at 3:43pm
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[/QUOTE] Hi Dave, wouldn't running 2 x F218 from one
channel of a FFA 10000 be pushing the amp to around 1 Ohm? The F-218 has
two 8 ohm drivers running at 4 ohm total so adding one more driver would make 2
ohms? yes? I am looking to power 16 (8 a side) F-218s and figured
that I would have to wire 3 drivers to a channel (1 and a half bins) at
the moment the best way I can see is to use
4 x FFA 10000 running at 2Ω
running 3 drivers per channel, and on top of the stack use 1 x FFA
6004 running at 8 Ω running 1 driver a channel got any better suggestions? Maybe I have been awake to long but I definitely
don’t want to push my amps to much especially when the ambient temperature
often reaches high 30s and even 40 deg around here and dust doesn’t help cool
gear either.
Another two bass bins and budget for six FFA10000 simple's
------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs" |
Posted By: bioshok_sounds
Date Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:53am
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hi is ffa realy the one for funktion one ore is there a more resionable priced amp that will do the job just as well? cheers
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Posted By: Smiter
Date Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:56am
| Funktion One will work with any amp - FFA and MC2 are brands that F1 recommend based on build / sound quality. |