looking for 2x18 designs
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Topic: looking for 2x18 designs
Posted By: RUS
Subject: looking for 2x18 designs
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 11:51am
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hi guy's.
im looking for double 18 reflex design's and if anyone knows of any 21 or 24 double designs that would be great to.
thanks rus.
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Posted By: Stray-Sounds
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 1:12pm
why not g sub?
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 1:42pm
Stray-Sounds wrote:
why not g sub? |
i just wanted to checkout what else was out there.
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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 1:52pm
http://www.bcspeakers.com/suggested.php?id=0000000010 - http://www.bcspeakers.com/suggested.php?id=0000000010
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 2:16pm
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hi.
thank you nicky i have seen these bc plans before but you cant make out the depth messurement on the b&c 2x18 enclosure. 
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 6:40pm
How about something like:
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Posted By: justamadman
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 6:48pm
i really like that style porting, very martin audio.
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 8:11pm
Very D&B too ;)
There are all kinds of benefits to doing the porting in that arrangement.
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 10:47pm
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hi ceharden.
thank you i like it but i was maybe looking for something a bit bigger as it is for my own use and wont be moved about i've heard that a bigger maybe deeper cab will perform better but i do not know this for shore.
they look great tho what are they by the way.
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 10:51pm
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ps. ceharden.
great idea with the port's as they act as braceing aswell. 
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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 10:51pm
RUS wrote:
hi.
thank you nicky i have seen these bc plans before but you cant make out the depth messurement on the b&c 2x18 enclosure.  |
PDF entitled, "Drawing" on the same page has all the measurments
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 11:01pm
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I would recommend going for the B&C single 18" design. Or using it as a starting point anyway.
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 11:01pm
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doe's it ok thank you nicky some times im so blind.
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 12 March 2009 at 11:05pm
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hi.
i really love the simplistic build of the gsub but know offence rog if there is somthing else out there that is bigger and performs better then i will go for it.
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 01 November 2009 at 3:38pm
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bump
still looking for a 2x 18" reflex design or 21" - 24" as long as it will do my whole bass for me where i can just have reflex cabs on top without kick bins.
so ive seen
eighteen sound
selenium
beyma
b&c
and there isnt what im looking for in there designs
does anyone know of another company that has free designs.
thanks rus. 
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Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 01 November 2009 at 3:40pm
RUS wrote:
bump
still looking for a 2x 18" reflex design or 21" - 24" as long as it will do my whole bass for me where i can just have reflex cabs on top without kick bins.
so ive seen
eighteen sound
selenium
beyma
b&c
and there isnt what im looking for in there designs
does anyone know of another company that has free designs.
thanks rus.  |
oh and i dont care if they are huge
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 01 November 2009 at 10:47pm
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build 8 and put a massive grill on the front so it looks like a single speaker
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 04 November 2009 at 1:43pm
darkmatter wrote:
build 8 and put a massive grill on the front so it looks like a single speaker |
here is another 218 design made by ArthurG, really similar to GSUB but using differant driver:
http://forum.speakerplans.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=28822&title=ag-audio-sb218 - http://forum.speakerplans.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=28822&title=ag-audio-sb218
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Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 5:00am
ceharden what drivers are for that cab?
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 9:09am
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I use 18Sound 18LW1400, excellent reflex drivers.
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 9:45am
Build some of these...
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Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 10:22am
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wsx?
thats an impressive pile - martin stock room me thinks
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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 10:39am
Bigger is not a synoniem for a better performance..... A good design is when driver, cabinet and ports are optimised on each other. So it is possible to make a small cabinet with a great performance and vice versa.
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 12:34pm
Xmax extreme wrote:
Build some of these...
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what are the kick bin just behind the wsx ?
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 1:10pm
Bigger is not a synoniem for a better performance.....
A good design is when driver, cabinet and ports are optimised on each other. So it is possible to make a small cabinet with a great performance and vice versa. |
It depends. If you want to go low and loud then you do need to go big. There are tradeoffs between size, spl and frequency. Otherwise we'd all already be using cabs doing 150db at 20hz the size of a matchbox.
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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 1:21pm
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@ TDA's home... I bet this is in his living room 
outsourcing is very popular nowadays, for martin audio as well
kick bins look like HD215
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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 1:25pm
norty303 wrote:
Bigger is not a synoniem for a better performance.....
A good design is when driver, cabinet and ports are optimised on each other. So it is possible to make a small cabinet with a great performance and vice versa. |
It depends. If you want to go low and loud then you do need to go big. There are tradeoffs between size, spl and frequency. Otherwise we'd all already be using cabs doing 150db at 20hz the size of a matchbox. |
I mean within reasonable borders. For example, my sub is only 700*600*900 mm (378 liter) wich is very compact for a double 18" cabinet and it goes much lower and louder than my Mach subs (481 liter) with the same speakers in it.

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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 1:29pm
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yeah man, the horn loaded kick bass section pushes the bottom end as well
...it's also possible to series tune such a design
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 2:04pm
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they look a lot bigger than hd215, hd15 high is 578 so 578X2 -18= 1138
wsx is 574 width so 2X 574= 1148
so for me it can't be hd215, maybe tsw218...?
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 3:47pm
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 4:23pm
Who's pictures are those? Do you work for Turbopower?
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 5:02pm
Nope mate, some friends of mine.... 
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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 5:26pm
what for do you need ladders, when you have sub cabs
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 5:52pm
Ibex wrote:
what for do you need ladders, when you have sub cabs
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  spot on that!
 
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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 6:47pm
Turbopower? ...something like Martin Brother?
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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 11 November 2009 at 6:50pm
Hey, what are those cabs? Al Kaida design? 


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Posted By: audioalliance
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 4:43am
ceharden wrote:
How about something like:
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What the heck are they.... And those singles... How do the singles sound?.... What's the weight like and how can I get me 1 of these bad boys"....
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 9:21am
They are my own design. They came about because one of my mates wanted some subs that matched the external dimensions of two D&B QSubs stuck together. They are not copies however, I've never taken a QSub apart to measure it.
The singles are in fact my prototype twin 18" cut in half with two extra sides fitted! They're a very good general-purpose bass solution, particularly for live music. Very good efficiency, very clean, natural sound, although a lot of that is owed to the 18Sound drivers. The triangular ports make for a very rigid cab which then allowed me to use 15mm plywood and thus the weight is very reasonble. Two people can carry a twin up stairs without much difficulty.
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 2:05pm
Ibex wrote:
Hey, what are those cabs? Al Kaida design? 


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Abusayaf bins...  
its a modified CV SL36
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Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 3:50pm
 Dual 18's
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Posted By: Ibex
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 3:59pm
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Xmax, what are those drivers?
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Posted By: Big-G
Date Posted: 12 November 2009 at 6:20pm
Are they JBL's?
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Posted By: JohnnyPyro
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 2:17am
Big-G wrote:
Are they JBL's? |
they look very similar to the 2242h's esp with the size of that dust cap
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Posted By: italgil
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 8:43am
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can u adviseme about the paint to use? i'm building some martin 15" horn in mdf, wich paint i use?
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Posted By: burnout124816
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 9:56pm
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old topic but anyone tried this design already ?
the double 21 manifold
on the same base as the old JBL TCB 4788
http://www.eighteensound.com/index.aspx?mainMenu=applications
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Posted By: Wrek0ne
Date Posted: 24 September 2011 at 2:23pm
I know that these are planar wave horns, but you said large and effective...???? http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9653" rel="nofollow - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9653 - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9653" rel="nofollow - Goliath http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9652" rel="nofollow - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9652 - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9652" rel="nofollow - LSW218 http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9648" rel="nofollow - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9648 - http://www.forum.poweraudio.ro/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=9648" rel="nofollow - PWH-18SW1P (double it up? They sound amazing in singles!!)
These sound good too: http://www.freespeakerplans.com/mn-246.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.freespeakerplans.com/mn-246.html
(I'v never herd these before but a little birdy tells me they are quite good.) http://www.freespeakerplans.com/sos-218p.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.freespeakerplans.com/sos-218p.html
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Posted By: MattChef
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 8:55pm
I've been using g subs for a couple of years and I can happily say they are the most versatile, user friendly cab I have ever used. You will be hard pushed to find another double 18 that is so efficient.
Just wondered, why 21/24 double cab???
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Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 26 December 2015 at 10:22pm
Xmax extreme wrote:
Build some of these...
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What is this? A huge copy factory?
I don't really get the idea of double 18", it just gets heavier! For horns it makes a little sense as they coupl & go lower, for ported it just seems even more strange as the simulation of 2 in a cab is a bit stranger than for one in a cab as far as I recall
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