HOG scoops EQ settings?
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Topic: HOG scoops EQ settings?
Posted By: smithers
Subject: HOG scoops EQ settings?
Date Posted: 30 March 2009 at 3:12pm
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afternoon folks,
i'm taking out a couple of hogs to a dubstep night this sat to provide a bit of low end extension to the in house system (which i've yet to see, but could possibly be matin audio w8c) i usually just take the rig out and run the bass flat, with pretty satisfying results, but as i'm not taking out the rest of the rig i want to make a good impression with what i am taking, i dont we to be adding on to a pretty slick system and becoming the weakest link in the chain, the venue is pretty small and 2 extra Hogs should tear the place up quite nicely, but i want to get it tweaked so its sounding slick.... anyone got any setting that they use with good results? or wanna come down to the venue and have fiddle with my knobs on the day? i'm rolling with a DCX for the processing, macrotech on sub duty. hit me! |
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Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 30 March 2009 at 4:52pm
| Cross them from 30 - 80hz , and a nice EQ boost doesn't go amiss around the 60hz region. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 30 March 2009 at 6:16pm
Would have thought 35hz-80hz 48db rolloff each side ? 30-35hz eats up a lot of power/Xmax, warms up VZ5s rather quickly, and wont buy you much with only 2x subs. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Autograff wrote:Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 30 March 2009 at 6:24pm
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35hz to 60 hz [65hz max!!!]
24db lwr curve
2 or 3 db boost at 45hz usually makes the crowd smile ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 30 March 2009 at 7:29pm
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yeah i'll be running them from 35hz with a steep roll off either side to be on the safe side.
45hz boost & 60hz seem like a good plan, i'll have to try and have a little tinker before sat |
Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 12:45pm
| Why cross them at 35/60 when a single Hog can do 30/80? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 12:51pm
Drivers will last longer, and handle greater power input, from 35hz upwards. Personally, if I was only taking out 2x subs, I would be running them from 38hz upwards. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 1:19pm
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Took mine out on the weekend....f**k me the thunder that comes out of them!!bought down the ceiling tiles,lucky we put the camo net up that caught them before anyone was hit!
with regards to eq would recommend losing some of the 50hz bump that we put in....not saying that it didn't do the business but they sounded a bit one note-ish.What a monster note it was mind, everyone was very taken aback that just 2 bins were doing what they were. The main room had 12 fifteen inch scoops for they're dum and ass...you could clearly hear the 2 hogs in the room next door...was embarrasing.I even offered to turn them down! Still they obviously deliver but do they only do 50hz??they didn't follow the bassline very well ,just overpowering 50hz...this was confirmed by Daves spectrum analyzer spl meter thingamybob...anyone else thought this?? ------------- NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 1:36pm
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What drivers you using?And what music was being played? Went to two nights with 4 Hogs loaded with V18-1200's this weekend and it was nice and clear throughout. Fair enough about the driver's lasting longer , thought you just mean't Hogs couldn't do 30
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 1:44pm
Dont know how well they were powered, but have seen this many times, hence I dont rate 15" scoops.
Think I heard someone else say this as well. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 2:10pm
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Sorry should have pointed out that it was Dubstep,through V18 1000s.Brutal bass but was tiring by the end of the night.Mind you I suppose if we had lost the bump at 50hz the rest of the freqs might have had a chance.Work in progress methinks.
Lev,cant comment on how they were powered but I did spot something Peavy in the rack  ,didn't want to start poking my nose in as they were obviously struggling with the sound and didn't look too happy about it.Shame because it looked the part.All the 15s were Fane colossus XB. ------------- NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 3:14pm
| Guess people still have alot of experimenting to do seeing as Hogs have only really just started popping up. |
Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 4:10pm
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Hello, Fuzzy might be that 50Hz jumped up due to room resonance/played music combination. Of course to do it "by book" and get balanced sound in any closed space one must do at least rough measurement of room resonance and level them down by EQ-ing (if necessary,.. I am trying to avoid EQ-s wherever I can ..  )Hogs that I have built/tested really sounded/measured nice balanced through entire range. Other builders also reported very good balanced output (I can remember nice "Hi-Fi" :) report from forum member Paulo Duto ) . ..Also PD1850/V1000 have that "brutal" character .. But i do not think that they will turn the HOG in one note trumpet. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 4:51pm
Yep, that 40-50 hooliganism caused by high BL has to be considered. Which is why Tmax 1000 has to be tested in there ASAP. If V18-1200 works in there, I would expect Tmax to give V18-1200 musical tone, but a higher capacity for abuse and general mayhem. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 5:06pm
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did a speed read so didn't notice if they are going to be stacked side by side?
if not cross the higher like lev said
48db slope Lev? do you wear 3 durex when you get your end away? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 5:26pm
48db slope allows you to give the sub amp a full fat signal, with none of that rushing to amp rack lark, when unexpected bass note drops, and removes your trousers. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 5:41pm
Thanks for your input Staipe/guys,yes the room was a long thin one bit like a shipping container,but we won't go there eh?! As it was our first outing we did the usual bump in the EQ to get the bass up to stupid levels,absolutly amazing it was!Like i said, pissed on the main room that had 12 fifteen inch fane scoops.  And literally bought the house down.As far as i know Retox are the only other group to have removed ceiling in that space!
We should have spent a bit more time setting up the levels,but you know what it's like...we were all a bit dumbstruck when they started thundering to the point where we forgot the basics! Will have a good play with them at the next gig,plus I think things will balance out when the other six are in play!! Thanks Very much Staiper for the design...tis awesome. ------------- NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 10:46pm
:) So if my rig set mi trousers on fire instead, it needs adjustment still? How about Butterworth 48dB on the hi pass, it has more level closer to the cutoff freq compared to LR48. Thats what I run. ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |