X-12 style DJ Monitors?
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Topic: X-12 style DJ Monitors?
Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Subject: X-12 style DJ Monitors?
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 4:22am
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Things are progressing rather quickly with the MT121/1850 Builds I'm doing so I have to start looking at good monitors for the DJ Booth. Am I correct thinking the X-12's are more of a FOH/Mid-tops of a stack design? Or can these be used for DJ Booth? Can anyone recommend a really nice 2 x 12"+HF, X-12 style DJ monitor free plans? Some of the best outdoor Rigs I have DJ'd on have had floor standing dual 12"+ HF Clear, Clean Loud be the qualities I am after. Jim |
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:13am
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If you were using it for a DJ monitor I would recommend building an X12 with the HF between the two 12" drivers. It would make a very loud monitor! Just modify the design to suit your needs. The cabinet shape isn't critical. As long as you end up with a sensible internal volume and tune it in the right region you'll be fine. There's a massive selection of drivers which will work in it too. |
Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:24am
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Nice, cheers Ceharden, Will fire up AutoCAD & see how they might look. |
Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 10:32am
| You might want to find a wider dispersion horn for monitor use too. If you choose some 12" drivers with a bit more low extension you can turn the box into more of a full range cab. |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:49am
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Often though about this - something like
2 x P-audio SERIES 2 SN12MB
1 x P-audio SERIES 2 BMD 740 1.4"
1 x P-audio PH 85
run bi amp
in a MTM style cab - it should belt it out, make a nexo PS 5 sided trap style box and a handy full range box too. ------------- Don't worry F$cked up bigger gigs than this one........... |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 1:24pm
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The SN12mb seems to be pretty hard to find at the moment, have a look at the Celestion 12" TN as an alternative. I have just used a couple and have been very impressed for the money. Since I built them for a client I have 2 more orders after pepes just had a listen!!!! The nice thing is they are pretty smooth up to 4k which makes x-over design and comp choice much easier. As Chris stated just use a 1" comp between the 2 bass/mid drivers. Cross as low as possible but you could push it up to about 2.5K with just a little beaming from the 12" ers. With the Celestions it should do about 128db cont. which is enough even for deaf DJ types. Tony |
Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 1:30pm
| I would stick with a large format compression drivers as per H's suggestion. If nothing else they're harder to kill! Crossover point about 1.5kHz. |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 2:53pm
That's because you do not use the proper 1" ers.  Tony |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 3:28pm
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@ Tony Wilkes
SERIES 2
Plenty of 'em in the mother land! ------------- Don't worry F$cked up bigger gigs than this one........... |
H... wrote:Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 6:44pm
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@H When I was after some SN12mb's a few weeks ago could not find any in the UK, the only half respectable budget Neo driver I could find was the Celestion, glad I did it proved to be a cheap little gem. It has not got the absolute definition of some of the European products though I would say it was a match for the MKI SN series. Tony |
Posted By: breakdabeat pete
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 6:49pm
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which celestion tn was it tony?? specs look pretty good on the http://professional.celestion.com/pro/products/tn/detail.asp?ID=17 - TN1230 ------------- ٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶ |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 04 May 2009 at 6:55pm
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It was the TN1225. Its smaller voice coil gives it a smoother top end. Its only 50w less power handling but looking at the graphs it seems to make up for this with greater efficiency. Tony |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 6:48am
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Mmm I think people need to start learning French or Italian to be able to get hold of p-audio drivers in the UK!
For me its very hard to get anything else or justify the price
B&C - strong money
Eminence - some units are fair value ie 6/8" mids but big 15/18" are crazy money
Zomax and a whole load of other chinese brands/Thai rebadges - QC is really low and TS's are a joke
JBL - outragous prices
RCF - outragous prices
That's kinda of it out here for choice! ------------- Don't worry F$cked up bigger gigs than this one........... |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 10:15am
| How much for the TN? |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 11:50am
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I got mine from Len Industries off Ebay about £55 ea. Forgot to try ProAudioParts who now sell Celestion. Maybe they could PM me with a price for 4 off TN1225? Tony |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 12:02pm
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markie from this forum may be able to recommend good places to buy celestion i made my DJ monitors by modifying the x12 plans - i used B&C HPL76 and B&C DE250 on a XT1086 horn - sounds good :) using two 12" drivers in a MTM config will give you added flexibility i.e. monitors for bigger gigs or as FOH mid top for smaller events. |
Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 11:21pm
 Drew up these plans for a MMT Monitor design last night, Based on 2 x Celestion TN1230 1 x P-Audio PH-85 Horn 1 x Beyma CP755Ti 1.4 inch Compression Driver Included the dia 100mm ports in the front baffle however have not simulated any freq response tuning due to these ports with the Celestion's. In an MTM configuration where would the ports go? Or change shape of the ports to a rectangle? Jim |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 06 May 2009 at 6:52am
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So this monitor ins't ever going to be on the floor then?
If it was me I would use wooded 'triangle ports and go for an MTM configuration and have a 5 sided trap nexo PS15 style ------------- Don't worry F$cked up bigger gigs than this one........... |
Posted By: TDA-Audio
Date Posted: 06 May 2009 at 7:40am
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my version dj-monitor
http://speakerplans.com/forum/span-classhighlightdj-span-monitor-by-tda-audio_topic18317_post178377.html?KW=dj#178377 ------------- horns plans http://photofile.ru/users/tda-audio/ |
Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Date Posted: 06 May 2009 at 9:54am
Ah you mean like a fold-back wedge like a live stage type monitor? Im talking vertical/up right Left/Right 500W Headphone style  I prefer DJ'ing with a monitor that has the HF about ear level so the MMT config is what I'm after, Maybe a single 12"+HF version would suffice on a stand from the floor... |
Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 06 May 2009 at 10:23am
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If you do a 5 sided trap it can go up or down! ------------- Don't worry F$cked up bigger gigs than this one........... |
Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 3:16am
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Back on these... Do the dia 100mm ports have a specific length for tuning? |