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Topic: line array projects
Posted By: kunak23
Subject: line array projects
Date Posted: 03 June 2009 at 10:38pm
HI there all,
has anyone ever thy tobuild a line array cabinet?
Any specifications about it?



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Posted By: james folkes
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 10:48am

i'm sure we've all considered it at least once...

read http://www.burton-manor.co.uk/Audio/LAthoughts.htm - here first.
 
james.


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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 10:52am
Nothing magic about them at all. Most of it is about the HF end. When people see the cost of GOOD top end drivers that work to a suitably low frequency that's when the interest ussually diminishes.

I agree with James that Steve's introduction to them is a good start.

Tony 


Posted By: H...
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 12:40pm
http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/products/HF%20Line%20Array%20design%20requirements%20V2.pdf - http://www.paudiothailand.com/pdf/products/HF%20Line%20Array%20design%20requirements%20V2.pdf
But the 1.4" CD and wave guide aren't brilliant in the range after 7kHz - but you will find this unless you pay some big $$$  and get better CD/wave guide - system EQ will be needed to get it to sound right - as with a lot of LA's out there

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 1:32pm
Hello,

I'm from the Netherlands and new here, excuse me for my bad englishEmbarrassed
The past 6 years I was thinking about designing and building a small line array.
This year I build the first prototype cabinet, it contains a dublle 8" RCF low/mid driver and a 1"Renkus Heinz compression driver. The wave guide is my own design even as the complete rigging system.
On this moment I finished 6 cabinets, the covering of a single cabinet is 15 degrees vertical and 120 degrees horizontal (-6 dB point) from 100 Hz up to 16kHz.
This system is powered by a Roland M400 mixing desk, a Apex Intelli-X processor and Lab Gruppen amplifiers. The sound is a real 'line array' sound, very clean, loud and 'in your face' and much better as I ever had dreamed offBig smile.



Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 2:16pm
Looks great. Where did you get the hardware?

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 2:23pm
I designed it all by myself, it is made from air-craft aluminium (watercutted ) and black anodised.
The bumper is also my own design, made from steel and black powder coated.
The other 6 cabinets are almost finishes and waiting for low/mid drivers.




Posted By: kunak23
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 2:39pm
Hey MusicXtra¡¡ That looks awesome, could you please post some more pictures and gives some advices on how you did it?
Thanx


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 2:51pm
Ok, here some pics from earlyer stages:

12 cabinets is a lot of workDead almost all panels have a lot of strange angles.


Lots of brainwaves, sleepless nights and prototypes for designing the rigging hardware

Here the first prototype watercutted.

And a picture from a 4 cabinet stack without grilles.





Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 3:25pm
Here a picture from the fly/stack bumper with the first wattercutted prototype of te rigging hardware.



Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 05 August 2009 at 3:28pm
And here a picture of a 6 cabinet ground stack with the latest version of the rigging hardware.
The fly bumper is also finished and black powder coated.



Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 1:58pm
Very nice! Did your waveguides work as designed the first time or did you do quite a bit of tweaking and measuring beforehand to get them right? Do you find it still sounds good with only two or three cabs stacked per side, or does it need the full length of the line for best effect/dispersion control?


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 2:24pm
With the first version of the wave guide the dispersion was 30 degrees vertical, after modification it is 15 degrees and that is narrow enough for me but it is not a real line source array.

This 'wish' list is the result of 6 years of thinkingBig smile:
The system must be small enough to handle alone, so the weight of one cabinet must be less than 25 kg.
The system must be usable for small cafe's also on festivals with 2000 persons of audience so a stack of 2 cabinets must have the same good quality as a flown stack of 8 cabinets.
It must be compatitive in sound and construction with the best systems on the market and it must be a new concept, so it was neccesary to use very good components.
It must be stackable and flyable because for 90% of the gigs I use it as a ground stack.
The rigging must be easy to produce and easy to handle with a safety factor of at least 10:1 for a stack of 12 cabinets.
The impedance of one cabinet must be 16 Ohm so that I can connect up to 6 cabinets parallel.

And here is the result of a lot of blood sweat and tearsWink.
The stack stands on a flight-case for four cabinets.




Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 2:26pm
Here a picture of the first gig with the system.



Posted By: Shelfstacker
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 2:43pm
Wow, an amazing effort.  Looks a lot like the Logic Systems CA10 and CA20 we use.  Any ideas of what the cost per box to build this has set you back?

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Posted By: audioalliance
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 5:57pm
looks mean... great for anywhere, anytime... very impressive

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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 7:08pm
Is the new fly hardware "Galvanised Steel" ?

Tony


Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by MusicXtra MusicXtra wrote:



 
Clap
 
Impressive


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by Tony Wilkes Tony Wilkes wrote:

Is the new fly hardware "Galvanised Steel" ?

Tony

Nope, it's the same fly-ware as in the other pics but now it's black anodised.
Here's a detail pictureBig smile



Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 7:26pm
OK thank you. I thought it would have been strange.

Tony


Posted By: space-face
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 8:15pm

I'm very impressed!



Posted By: Quantum Sounds
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 8:49pm
Clap excellent work that looks lovely

what program did you use to model the hi section?

and where can you get thiele small parameters for compression drives? or how did you model it?


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 8:50pm
The only 'problem' I have is which glue will work with the foam on the grilles.
Is there anybody here with a briljant solution?


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 06 August 2009 at 8:57pm
Originally posted by Quantum Sounds Quantum Sounds wrote:

Clap excellent work that looks lovely

what program did you use to model the hi section?

and where can you get thiele small parameters for compression drives? or how did you model it?

The hi section is a trail and error project.Embarrassed But the final result have no errorsStar
The most important issue is to make a, more or less, cilindrical wavefront of a sferical wavefront, important is the length of the waves from the highest frequenties and to mak the hornpath on every place of the horn mouth the same for all frequenties.
But, as I wrote in an earlyer reaction: This system is not a line source array but only a line-array. Line sourde array's have a vertical dispersion les than 5 degrees for one cabinet, this system 15.
The reason for this choice is that I want to use the system with 2 cabinets in small locations and I never had bigger gigs than 3000 people. The last reason is that with a real line source array you always need a good calculation program for calculate how tot fly or stack the array.



Posted By: Rengade Project
Date Posted: 07 August 2009 at 1:56am
There is a new kid on the block who just proved that he belongs.MusicXtra that system looks killer.  I wish that I could hear it.

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Posted By: chowlu
Date Posted: 07 August 2009 at 7:01am
very impressiveThumbs Up

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Posted By: Ryan94
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 6:09pm

very very nice build, one of the first line array builds i have seen on this forum! whats the output of each cabinet?



Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 6:44pm
Tnx for all the complimentsEmbarrassed.
The maximum output is +/- 127 dB for a single cabinet.


Posted By: shadow1
Date Posted: 08 August 2009 at 9:34pm
Got to congratulate you on what is an excellent build, i think we''ll like some more detailed info thou.
Could be an inspiration to us all.


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Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: 20 August 2009 at 12:54am
   Very nice work!
 
 Do both low/mid drivers run up to the 1" xover?   If so, I would expect some midrange interference in the horizontal plane.
 
Any profile pics of the HF throat?   


Posted By: asaa00
Date Posted: 20 August 2009 at 2:39am
holy sh*t i am floored by your work

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 20 August 2009 at 9:26am
Originally posted by coyote coyote wrote:

   Very nice work!
 
 Do both low/mid drivers run up to the 1" xover?   If so, I would expect some midrange interference in the horizontal plane.
 
Any profile pics of the HF throat?   

Both mid drivers run up to 1 kHz, but the interference is no problem for the sound.
I don't have pics of the HF throat, that's my secretWink.


Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: 20 August 2009 at 1:49pm
The drivers physical spacing and freq bandwith would cause problems for me...
Been there, done that...  I saw/heard better results and wider bandwith with a longer low/mid array which used the same number of drivers.  HF line does NOT have to be as long as the entire array.
My LA system was very difficult to array and is currently dismantled.  It was used at a large outdoor venue about six times with good results.
I may re-use the drivers in PS boxes this time unless I can come up with a safe, simple hardware design to fly a vertical line. 
 
However, I will say your rigging hardware is spectacular.   
 
 
  
 


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 20 August 2009 at 6:18pm
My line array is not a line source array, therefore the cabinets needs a vertical dispertion of 5 degrees and my system has 15 degrees.
But, for my gigs that's perfect because I didn't need a longthrow (up to 50 metres) system.
Now I can use it from two cabinets per side for small venues and up to 6 (max 12 with a safety factor >10 for the rigging) for bigger venues.
The rigging hardware cost me lots of sleepless nights but the result is a very easy working rigging.
Now I'm thinking of a new version intergrated in the cabinet because with this version the brackets are separate from the cabinets and that is not perfect enough for me.Confused


Posted By: Centauri
Date Posted: 21 August 2009 at 1:22am
Originally posted by MusicXtra MusicXtra wrote:

Both mid drivers run up to 1 kHz, but the interference is no problem for the sound.


Trouble is that the distance between the outside edges of the mid drivers will be some 400mm, which will cause lots of interference and lobing in the horizontal plane, with the result that the horizontal dispersion will narrow considerably in the upper midrange up to the crossover point.  Boxes that use this configuration usually cross one driver out as the frequency rises so that only one mid driver is operating at the HF crossover point - even this will result in an asymmetrical dispersion at the crossover frequency.


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 21 August 2009 at 9:22am
Originally posted by Centauri Centauri wrote:

Originally posted by MusicXtra MusicXtra wrote:

Both mid drivers run up to 1 kHz, but the interference is no problem for the sound.


Trouble is that the distance between the outside edges of the mid drivers will be some 400mm, which will cause lots of interference and lobing in the horizontal plane, with the result that the horizontal dispersion will narrow considerably in the upper midrange up to the crossover point.  Boxes that use this configuration usually cross one driver out as the frequency rises so that only one mid driver is operating at the HF crossover point - even this will result in an asymmetrical dispersion at the crossover frequency.

I know what you mean and I'm familiar with this but I measured a lot on this system, also with different cross-over points for both mid drivers. There was no difference in dispersion on different frequenties.
I only needed less correction with the EQ in the DSP, in this 2 way configuration I need a low shelve for about 4 dB on 400 Hz. All the measurements and the sound where the same in the different configurations so making a three way system of it don't give me any advantage.
Don't forget that both middrivers are placed in a short 120 degrees horn.


Posted By: kristoffdj
Date Posted: 21 August 2009 at 7:18pm
Thats just plain badass.  Lovin it.  At the speed that I build scoops I reckon I could start work on something like that and I'll be done by the time i'm 90.   Very very nice mate.

love the way they stack on the bins, looks so 'pro'.


Posted By: Steve_B
Date Posted: 22 August 2009 at 5:04am
About the closest commercial equivalent to this design is the dVdosc which I believe crosses over at 800Hz but also has the drive units angled together more.

If MusicXtra is happy with his design then that is fair enough but for others considering a similar route covering the outer half of each cone with a baffle is one method that has been used by more than one manufacturer to improve the response near the crossover.


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 22 August 2009 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by Steve_B Steve_B wrote:

About the closest commercial equivalent to this design is the dVdosc which I believe crosses over at 800Hz but also has the drive units angled together more.

If MusicXtra is happy with his design then that is fair enough but for others considering a similar route covering the outer half of each cone with a baffle is one method that has been used by more than one manufacturer to improve the response near the crossover.

I tried it with my system also but there was no diference in sound and no measureble difference.



Posted By: Steve_B
Date Posted: 22 August 2009 at 10:35pm
The problem with general rules of thumb and not using proper mathematical models is that there is a lot of leeway in what is subjectively acceptable and what the rules tell us should be.

The 1/2 wavelength spacing between drive units as an upper limit to the frequency response is not a straight line cut off. There is a gradual deterioration as one approaches and passes that frequency. What is not often considered is that at the crossover frequency the horn between the drive units is radiating as much power as the cones. You need to consider the three sources not just two.

That said as long as you understand the reasoning behind the general rules, they make a good starting point for experimentation.

Not a criticism of your work, but a pet peeve of mine (something I am sometimes guilty of myself) is just referring to measurements without going into detail of what was measured and how it was done. Take a loudspeaker that has three main projection lobes. Measuring on the main axis and the say at 45degree, in one of the side lobes shows no drop in response but completely misses a null spot between. I'm not saying that you are guilty of that but it is not uncommon.

I'm not sure if it still applies, but if you read the small print of a company whose initials are an anagram of WEA, they stated that directivity was measured by starting with the measuring microphone at the back of the loudspeaker and then rotating the speaker until the level reached a point 6dB down from the on-axis level. At least they were honest about how they did it, but probably hoped many would just skim over the figures.


Posted By: coyote
Date Posted: 23 August 2009 at 5:00pm

A "pink noise listening" while walking thru the horizontal axis will reveal tell-tale signs of distructive interference lobes.   Best done outdoors in the middle of a large field.

Although, your driver spacing may be fine considering there are three units operating at the xover freq ... as Steve B (who really knows his stuff) stated.  

Also,  you should benefit from side nulls in the low/mids due to the "doublet effect".    
 
I'm still wondering about the secret HF throat. Wink


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 26 August 2009 at 9:24pm
One of the measurments I did was with one cabinet on a turntable.
I feed the cabinet with pink noise also with a sine-wave on the cross-over frequentie. I used Smaart 5.0 and sometimes the noise generator in my Roland M400.
This is a good and reproducing method to measure the dispersion and lobes and compare what happened with 1, 2 or 3 cabinets.
It's more easy to turn the cabinet than walk around with the measuring microphone on exactly the same distance.Big smile
With this method of measuring I did lot's of experiments with different places for the mid drivers and developing the wave-guide.



Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 5:26pm
This weekend I have a gig on a big dance party, the line array will be used for a venue with 200 people.Shocked
For the subs we will use 8 punishers and now I have 10 line array cabinets ready to use.
I try to make some pics and post them here.


Posted By: Ryan94
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 7:28pm
that would be great if you could get some pics. im sure we would all like to see the array in action at a big event.


Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 8:16pm
The venue is 2000 people, not 200.LOL


Posted By: shadow1
Date Posted: 03 September 2009 at 9:02pm
If you don't mind me asking, what drivers have you used in this project ?

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 4:06am
Originally posted by shadow1 shadow1 wrote:

If you don't mind me asking, what drivers have you used in this project ?

The mid drivers are 8" RCF and the High drivers 1"Renkus Heinz.


Posted By: massisoda
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 10:02am
MB8G200?

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 04 September 2009 at 12:09pm
No, L8S800


Posted By: chowlu
Date Posted: 09 September 2009 at 12:39am
[QUOTE=MusicXtra]This weekend I have a gig on a big dance party, the line array will be used for a venue with 200 people.Shocked
For the subs we will use 8 punishers and now I have 10 line array cabinets ready to use.
I try to make some pics and post them here.
[/QUOTE any pics yetTongue


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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 09 September 2009 at 10:27am
Originally posted by chowlu chowlu wrote:

[QUOTE=MusicXtra]This weekend I have a gig on a big dance party, the line array will be used for a venue with 200 people.Shocked
For the subs we will use 8 punishers and now I have 10 line array cabinets ready to use.
I try to make some pics and post them here.
[/QUOTE any pics yetTongue

Yes, there are pics but not from my own camera and I'm still waiting for them.
The line array sounds very good, for the sub we used 8 punishers (4 per side), enough for an earthquakeShocked.
When I've got the pics I will post them here immediatly.


Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 02 October 2009 at 11:16pm
hi, just been reading up on Line Arrays - something that's never done anything for me as not really applicable to most set ups I've been around.

But this projects made me think again, very good effort for a DIYer.

Whats's the difference between 'normal' drivers and line array drivers? I see eminence are sporting  'line array' specific drivers in 6 and 8 inch variants. I notice they are closed back - the 6 at least.

I haven't taken a look at the parameters yet, but looking at the conventional 'V loading' of the mid section in line array boxes can't really see what's different between this and a reflex box?

I noticed the eminence drivers have a low sensativity and closed back - initially suggesting horn loading to me?.... as I said too lazy to look closer at the parameters.

All I've found is info on 'lenses', 'wave guides' and the like. Little on suitable specs and parameters...


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Posted By: Centauri
Date Posted: 03 October 2009 at 12:06am
The only difference with Eminence's "line array" speakers is that the chassis mounting flange is chopped off on opposite sides so they can be stacked together closer.  The closed back versions are for midrange use only.

There isn't any difference between the two types of boxes as far as drivers go - the difference is in the way the boxes interact with each other to combine multiple drivers coherently.


Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 03 October 2009 at 9:52am
thanks for clearing that up

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Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 8:57pm
updates?

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 10 December 2009 at 10:10pm
Yesterday the first gig with my new wedges and my line-array rigged.
600 people audience and a very smooth sound.









Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 8:54pm
really nice

I have a new Line array module in the testing process right now


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Posted By: chowlu
Date Posted: 11 December 2009 at 10:15pm
ClapClapClap job well done

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Posted By: wafflesomd
Date Posted: 12 December 2009 at 3:00am
Those tops look incredible.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 12 December 2009 at 7:10pm
what high frequency drivers did you use and did you make the horn or buy it?

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Posted By: MusicXtra
Date Posted: 12 December 2009 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by sirck50 sirck50 wrote:

what high frequency drivers did you use and did you make the horn or buy it?

I used Renkus Heinz SSD1600 drivers and the wave guide is my own design.


Posted By: sirck50
Date Posted: 13 December 2009 at 2:43am
Wow. Ur design? Das great man. I admire your skill, patience and attention to detail. U really did a fantastic job on these enclosures.
 
By the way, how many high frequency drivers did you use on each box, one or two?


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 13 December 2009 at 4:35am
very nice, liking the flyware



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Posted By: ArthurG
Date Posted: 13 December 2009 at 7:56am
Originally posted by MusicXtra MusicXtra wrote:

Originally posted by sirck50 sirck50 wrote:

what high frequency drivers did you use and did you make the horn or buy it?

I used Renkus Heinz SSD1600 drivers and the wave guide is my own design.
so probably a Beyma driver as RH is their biggest customer with many exclusive drivers for them Wink


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 December 2009 at 4:18am
yes, I believe Renkus don't make there own drivers

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Posted By: djfire
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 10:55pm
Hi!

I'm from Hungary.
Can you share these plans whit us?

I want to built these cabinets whit Eminence Alpha-8A
 

Please, when you can, help me, it could be grat to built as nice boxes as you have.


Special thanks from Hungary, Gyula


Posted By: Dj Tim
Date Posted: 16 September 2010 at 1:54pm
@ MusicXtra: great system!! (I follow your work also on other forums: licht & geluid)
 
As I see you give here more technical information about your line array, I also have a question (I'm just thinking/dreaming of building a small LA-system for my own):
 
On your pictures (firts pages of this topic) it isn't very clear if you have used vented cabinets (bass ports) for the 8 inch drivers. Did you used them? (at the side of the cabinet?) This was not very clear on the pics.
Perhaps you have a clear picture of the front?
 
Greetz from Belgium!
Tim


Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 17 December 2010 at 11:37pm
Just to retouch on this topic.
Wish these were available as plans ...

Also Dj Tim - you can see in the initial pictures they are ported. Side vertical slots.
From the given info one could work out everything except the CD slot. Though these are available at places.


Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 12:21am
I started a little project weeks back to crack a top box for a line array system.

Spent a day (only a day mind) trying to make a HF guide with tight enough dispersion to no avail. After thinking about my efforts I have a few ideas to have another go at it.

Wish someone who's been through this (all 3 of you) could help us out with some dims of your sucessful efforts. I'd buy you a beer if I could as way of thanks.

Think this is the main stumbling point for a few people as off the shelf guides are either pricey or poor in performance.


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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 4:59am
Tom, speak to steve_b off the forum, he has a lot of knowledge of wave guides and I know that he has been working on a design for an LA jobby.

Tony


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Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 10:35am
thanks for the tip Tony.

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Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 7:22pm
Tom
Why not use an off the shelf guide? Like the Faital Pro
I would be sure more would be available on your side of the pond than this.




Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 9:34pm
Yeah, get one from any reputable manufacturer.

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Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 20 December 2010 at 12:50pm
didn't know faital made them, many thanks. Seem reasonable enough.

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Yeah, get one from any reputable manufacturer.


Think it might have been you who suggested the P-Audio was not any good. Apologies if i'm wrong.



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Posted By: sunpro
Date Posted: 12 March 2011 at 6:35pm
Bonding liquid


Posted By: audioalliance
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:34pm
these cabs are an amazing build... good work MusicXtra...

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Posted By: juanmediano
Date Posted: 27 June 2011 at 8:22am
Hi am new here, and i saw ur line a. system.. i was looking for some one who haved woek before on this,, i need some help on what did i need to star meking some



Posted By: ClaritySound
Date Posted: 28 January 2012 at 2:36pm
Hey can anyone help me? Am about to embark on a line array design for my company but am not too sure about the PHASE problem everyone is speaking about!! and can i have some tips on building a successful line array? Here in Trinidad it is said that many have tried and fail but i believe they all did something wrong!!! so please help



Posted By: JohnnyPyro
Date Posted: 29 January 2012 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by MusicXtra MusicXtra wrote:

No, L8S800
same driver as the RCF Monitor 8 ... very musical driver ... love the line array bud

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Posted By: eserentalbelgium
Date Posted: 08 June 2012 at 8:48pm
beste , ik heb net even uw speakers bekeken en ik moet zeggen dat dit er erg mooi uit zien , nu ik heb hierover een vraagje voor u ,
zou u mij eventueel de plans van deze speakers even kunnen doormailen ?
alvast bedankt , mvg peter

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Posted By: skillz.tb
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 2:35pm
i need array system cabinets diagram 


Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 08 October 2012 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by skillz.tb skillz.tb wrote:

i need array system cabinets diagram 

Don't we all love. Don't we all.


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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 09 October 2012 at 11:47am
Originally posted by ClaritySound ClaritySound wrote:

Hey can anyone help me? Am about to embark on a line array design for my company but am not too sure about the PHASE problem everyone is speaking about!! and can i have some tips on building a successful line array? Here in Trinidad it is said that many have tried and fail but i believe they all did something wrong!!! so please help

Go to page 1 and read till you get back to this post. Then when you arrive back to this post go back to page 1 again and read till you come back here again. Then you may find that you may not have needed to join the forum at allWink


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 October 2012 at 11:58am
lol

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MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 09 October 2012 at 8:46pm
All we now is for someone to ask for a "line-array scoop powered by three phase".

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Posted By: Nashdaflash
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 8:44pm
Wow i am amazed by all these post. I am from Africa and i would like to build a line array system please can anyone help me with plans


Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by Nashdaflash Nashdaflash wrote:

Wow i am amazed by all these post. I am from Africa and i would like to build a line array system please can anyone help me with plans


Yes, send and email to Martin Audio and ask for the plans for the MLA system. They're very helpful and will probably send you some that they have lying around.


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Chas n Dave : it's like Drum and Bass but with beards.             E=mc² ±3dB


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 11:17pm
Originally posted by djeddie djeddie wrote:

Originally posted by Nashdaflash Nashdaflash wrote:

Wow i am amazed by all these post. I am from Africa and i would like to build a line array system please can anyone help me with plans


Yes, send and email to Martin Audio and ask for the plans for the MLA system. They're very helpful and will probably send you some that they have lying around.

...true, they sent me 8 boxes of their entire back catalog just for asking nicely...Stern Smile


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Posted By: Nashdaflash
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 7:14am
Really they sent you 8 of them thats awesome thank for the link i will tell how it goes


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 8:08am



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Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 9:48am
guys. play nice, he only joined 14 hours ago.
 
To Nash. they wrong about Martin Audio. They would not send you the plans BUT email L Acoustics. they will send you the plans and build guide to their line array. they will even tell you where to get the drivers from.


Posted By: Nashdaflash
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:26am
Shocked oh o i already sent them an email. Oh well you never know where you are going to get help unless you try find it.

Thanks on the infor on L acoustics I am on it


Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:32am
You can't be serious man...


Posted By: Nashdaflash
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:38am
what do you mean?


Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Pasi Pasi wrote:

You can't be serious man...
 
oh he is serious Pasi.LOL


Posted By: Nashdaflash
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 11:09am
haha no funny is anyone going to help me or what


Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 11:12am
Ask specific questions and you'll get specific answers. You initial question is more like "how long is a piece of wire"


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 11:52am
Originally posted by Nashdaflash Nashdaflash wrote:

haha no funny is anyone going to help me or what


Have you bothered reading this thread, or anything at all about line arrays? That might be a good start.


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Posted By: Goodvibetribe
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 2:24pm

Hahaha, these last two pages have just made my day! I can imagine I'm also speaking for whoever was on the receiving end of those emails at Martin and L acoustics.



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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 6:32pm
EPIC!!!!!!! Made it sticky!

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MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713



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