heres some recent XTROS with XT8 horns. 18sound 15nd930, b&c 8PE21, beyma cp380. 

yep, i have 4 Rhinos now, with 2 XTROs above= brilliant. 

 

fully rebated would have been worth the effort

 

what does a biscuit give that a steel screw doesnt?

 

good effort

 

....sorry, wrong thread!

biscuiting gives the same effect as rebating by determining your panel positions and also adding a glued fixing between each panel. You then slide your panels on the biscuits so it stays in place (absolutely no movement), while you screw it down. 

 biscuited the whole lot for these two boxes in about 90 minutes. Strengh wise it just as strong - you can biscuit ply edge on edge, (with glue) and then stand on it between two tressels!

rebating takes a little longer. 

 

you miss my point young blud

 

rebating is indeed messy, noisy, time consuming but it can double gluing area [=stronger cab], increase the bracing effect to the entire cab [=stronger cab]

 

biscuiting is quick, looks pretty [so good for impressing the average joe], and as you have stated doesnt take too much effort.

 

it is your wood, your build, do what you feel is best

 

good effort

i see your point, but really, the increase in glueing area is minimal, and the increase in the area of 20mm biscuits probably isnt far behind. i think that you've missed the fact that biscuiting also has all the advantages like rebating. 

We all know that the glue is stonger than the wood itself, so even a properly made butt jointed cab should be up to the toughest beating. It's the clean mitres and tight joints that make a good build. The thing is, many people seem to ignore this fact, and think the fix on the ends of the panels is the only important bit.  

thanks for comments anyway. 

@hbl

 

For rebating to double the gluing area it would have to be 9mm deep (in 18mm cab) this would will be halving the thickness of the outside wall. are you sure it should be done that deep?

very good point. rebating should really only go in a maximum of 5mm, cos as you say, you reduce the thickness in you side wall, and also, you then have to be careful about how deep your screw go. (i use an impact driver, and sometimes it still takes me by surprise!) 

 

but birch is best,  the more birch in a cab with the least amount of pieces is best

 

but if it so strong why dont we build a cab out of 100% glue?

 

a good builder makes good cabs, be that rebated, butt jointed or biscuited

 

i stated the gluing area is almost doubled [assuming a 8mm rebate].  how is this minimal?!

 

draw it in autocad, biscuiting will locate the panel but take up valuable space which could have been taken up by a steel screw and provid no extra gluing area to the birch

 

 

you glue them in

MORE XTRO PORN!

I think i am going to use biscuits as well, in my opinion they are a good FAST compromise between but joints and rebating.  

And they are allmost ready. I have 8 punsh. and 4 xtro's then loaded with the recommend drivers. Does anyone know how many people you can cver with this set outdoors?

The XT8s are much louder and sound very accurate and clear. They "complete" the xtro cabinet.  

I'm about to start some new cabs and I dont want to do rebating so these busciut joints look like just the job especailly for pannel allignment and working as a third hand. Any chance you can go into more detail or do a little guide on how you did the biscuit cutting and the jig used.

I'm looking at the pics but cant really see how you'd do it fast and accurately. 

However i have built these for customers, and still do. 

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i dont think the XP5000s ever registered more than -6dB either. 

Cos my cabs sound a bit poop above 90Hz.

The efficiency and sound of the xt8 horn really impressed me, as this is the first time i have heard xtros with no other midtops.

 

problem is i bet they're a tad pricy to load!!

kappa 15s are cheap, and do a fairly good job. The ones you heard the other night are 18sound loaded. (these do cost a fair bit.)

8pe21s are reasonable

1" is up to you. 

mr 4enzics

Hey no i dint get your quote although i checked my inbox a couple of times, would really like theses speakers maybe 2, also what are the oprtions gthat they can be loaded with?...