Looney Bin Questions
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Topic: Looney Bin Questions
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Subject: Looney Bin Questions
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:29am
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Hey all
Im in the process of ordering 8 looney bins, which i think would make them the first in Denmark.
My problem is that i will be reciving them only one day before a larger gig, and won't have time to fiddle a lot with Smaart/auto allign.
Anyone know a precise horn lenght, EQ and other recomended DSP-settings?
I plan to use 4 each side, with ARCS tops, running the looneys up to about 120hz. All ground stacked.
Thanks..
Hvedstrup
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Posted By: Jake_Fielder
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:36am
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That seems like you're cutting it pretty close! I would try and sort out a backup plan just incase!
Sorry cant help you on the delay settings, but i think the horn length is the same as the 1850horn, 1.6m.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 10:49am
| HPF of 24dB Butterworth at 42Hz should be good to start you off, I found they didn't really need any EQ but if you want to take some of the hard edge off the sound knock a few dB off at 90Hz. |
Posted By: b3n
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:16am
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Duno about the looneys but I run my 1850s down to 45hz with 24db slope then up to about as high as 150-170ish depending on whats being played. You can probably drop a bit lower with larger stacks. Also I find the delay is usually between about 1.6 and 2 meters. Also sometimes even to squeeze a little bit more out of them I add a few more db at about 60-70hz. ------------- Matrix XP3000H, Thomann TA1050, Peavey CS1400, QSC RMX1450 2 x Eminence Kappa and PSD2002 loaded x15's 2 x SN-15MB and BM-D450 loaded X15's 2 x V18-1000 loaded 1850's Behringer DCX2496 |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 11:23am
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Thanks, for the swift reply guys.
I have a backup plan with a local rental company just in case.
I'll try with 1600mm delay, and see what happens.
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Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 4:38pm
it should be 1540mm are u sure u will get them bins for the gig?
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Hvedstrup wrote:Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 30 October 2009 at 5:14pm
What gig is this? is it in København?? ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:09am
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It's in Birkerød near Copenhagen. Not shure if im able yo get them in time, proaudioparts suddenly stopped answering mails. |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:51am
call them . ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:53am
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If its Looney bins from Void try calling void direct instead of the pro audio parts number. Rog has explained that the level of service is different ( possibly higher ) for people ordering Void gear. I dont have the number handy but I am sure its probably on your mails.
------------- Matt at ukamp dot co dot uk |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 6:25pm
| well technically the looney bin is a pro audio parts product and not a void product... every time i've phoned pro audio parts i've been answered. |
Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:08pm
I stand corrected. I had always thought that the Looneys were a void development. I too have always been answered when phoning pro audio parts and have found their service excellent. ------------- Matt at ukamp dot co dot uk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 31 October 2009 at 10:55pm
yes but...when you buy looney bin you pay to the void acoustic ltd bank account
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Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:00am
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Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:17am
Sorry to hear that. This seems to be the kind of thing that Rog can sort out within a day or so. May be worth asking for his email so he can sort it directly. I sold my eight Looney bins in November last year for £3000 inc VAT. Proaudio parts confirmed they were originals before I bought them, and that they had recently reconed them for their existing owner. If you can't get hold of new ones you will probably be able to buy them in good, used condition at about £380 to £400 each including VAT. They come up for sale fairly regularly in here and all of the guys I have had dealings with from this forum have all been top notch. Cheers Matt p.s. Welcome to the forum. ------------- Matt at ukamp dot co dot uk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:25am
i've been waiting ONE YEAR for 8 looney bins from pap..and they told me they need max 3-4 weeks to biuld cabinets..(im still waiting stuff from pap).. you dont know how much lies ive heard from them.. edit:its the worst deal ive done in my life pfff
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 9:27am
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I really don´t get it all my deals with them have been so good , maybe cause it´s Void I deal , we have to stone Markk , Hope you are reading this Markk , keep off the drinks ,
Sorry to hear this any ,
pm me lets link up one of these days in KBH ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 9:36am
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yes its mark fault..but who pay him to work there? so,as i said to him millions times,if he is not able to work he shouldnt work there..its simple. people work hard to get money..its not a joke. ive lost so much money because i missed many"hire date"...just because he lied to me. sorry for my bad english..
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Posted By: Sibulus
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:07pm
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getting a bit personal now calling Mark a liar isn't it? Not exactly professional. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/judas-beast |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:13pm
To speak plainly - to describe something as it really is . Is that wrong ?  ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:20pm
| there are too many unsattisfied (potentially) customers out there, maybe even more should talk the truth till PAP wakes up and get their business right... |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:23pm
I know it's hard to make a sound judgement when your head is clouded by anger but it is entirely plausible that by the time issues with voice coils and other components were sorted, the woodworking shop had closed for this little thing we have called 'Christmas'. A lot of places struggle to get back on their feet and deal with the inevitable build up that occurs over this international holiday period, so it could well be that the order has been delayed further. Of course, I don't know the whole situation and I'm only speculating, but I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt where possible. I do agree that you should have cabinets in your hands by now, however mistakes can be made particularly when things are built to order. Mark is only one guy and I personally feel that he could do with some assistance given the number of tasks he seems to be responsible for, so I don't think it's fair to blame him solely even though he is the 'face' of PAP. |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:19pm
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Mark is only one guy and I personally feel that he could do with some
assistance given the number of tasks he seems to be responsible for, so
I don't think it's fair to blame him solely even though he is the
'face' of PAP. Who does he make tea for , some time back he said he makes tea and answers phone and mail. I know it's hard to make a sound judgement when your head is clouded by anger but it is entirely plausible that by the time issues with voice coils and other components were sorted, the woodworking shop had closed for this little thing we have called 'Christmas'. the things are running very good for Pap if they start their Hol´s in Oct for Christmas , I should get a job there. Terry and the other on the otherside (void) call back and email up to 4-5 times a day when one needs help. To call a spade a spade, which means, ironically for this discussion, 'to speak plainly and bluntly; to speak without euphemisms', is first found in Ancient Greece. The exact origin is uncertain; the playwright Menander, in a fragment, said "I call a fig a fig, a spade a spade," but Lucian attributes the phrase to Aristophanes. Later, Plutarch notes that "The Macedonians are a rude and clownish people who call a spade a spade." (It is worth noting that the Greek word translated as "spade" seems actually to mean something like "bowl" or "trough"; the "spade" may be based on a Renaissance mistranslation. In this case the original expression was "to call a bowl a bowl," and thus the "spade" expression is "only" 500, rather than 2,500, years old.) I rest my case. ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:36pm
is that for me?sorry im not english so i could misunderstand.. if its about what i say to me a liar is a person who doesnt say the truth..and he didnt tell me the truth for a year and thats is sure because im not an idiot and"someone"at void confirmed that all the exuses he told to me were lie.. if you want i can tell you everything he has done to me in this year via pm because i dont want to say that here..and mark knows that..thats probably why today he didnt answer in this thread
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:42pm
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Hmm, nice way to do business if someone in the company is telling customers that others in the company are lying about things to customers.
Either it's not true, or someone doesn't like their job much... Either way, Mark does not personally assemble and order the Looney cab parts, so it's unfair to blame him solely. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:49pm
if im talking with someone at void and he tell me the truth about my cabinets and i say"hey mark yesterday said something else"what they have to do???and that wasnt once........... im not blaming mark for the"building"...im blaming him for the lies he told me for a year..and again he knows what im saying.. edit:lenguage..sorry
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:03pm
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Hmm, nice way to do business if someone in the company is telling
customers that others in the company are lying about things to
customers.
Either it's not true, or someone doesn't like their job much... Either way, Mark does not personally assemble and order the Looney cab parts, so it's unfair to blame him solely. Which ever way you push turn pull , It´s simple Norty if one answers the mails and the phone when someone calls , that person has to have their facts right no true ( The Importance of Being Earnest), I thought I mailed back and doggy poo don´t help if the person doesn´t forward mails to the others , If they Have too much money and no time for work they should close down , then we too can find a new doggy poo shop to start calling Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated. ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:14pm
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You're missing my point I think.
I find it highly unlikely that Mark would perpetuate a lie off his own back, for a year. Others at Void/PAP would've been aware of the order, and the delays involved. Now either Mark was telling everyone else that you were cool with the wait when you weren't, or they knew of the problems as an organisation and Mark was just the messenger. And as the old saying goes.. 'Don't shoot the...' Personally, if I were you, I'd be on the phone to Void/PAP asking to speak to a Director or somebody to get a proper explanation. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:21pm
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Personally, if I were you, I'd be on the phone to Void/PAP asking to speak to a Director or somebody to get a proper explanation. I´ve always done that , and on my side everything coming from Void is on time PAP then I have to set pc/ email on repeat so it sends a few mails ., before I get an answer. IS He married to Rog´s sis or something. Time out sorry if I said to much. ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:23pm
unbelievable..now im the one who dont say the truth..or i wasnt"cool"with the wait..ive been the best customer they can have..ive been waiting waiting and waiting..and again he knows that.. im sorry but im not english and i cant talk by phone because i dont understand...and my deal was sorted(almost)because in the end i found a way to talk with someone else at void/pap. i dont understand why it cant be mark fault... |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 9:51pm
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Now I just think you're misunderstanding what I wrote. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 9:55pm
| yep it could be..sorry im doing my best to understand and write. |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 10:00pm
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Sorry Norty Yo Boss ( Don G ) maybe it will make sense maybe not ___--- Hmm, bel modo di fare business, se qualcuno in azienda sta dicendo che gli altri clienti della società sono mentire su cose ai clienti. O non è vero, o qualcuno non piace il loro lavoro molto ... In entrambi i casi, Mark non ha personalmente raccogliere e ordinare le parti cabina Looney, così è ingiusto dare la colpa a lui solo. 
------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 10:00pm
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Anyway, I've PMed Mark and asked him to look in on this thread in case he hasn't seen it.
I don't expect him to respond here necessarily, but he should be aware of it. Please also bear in mind that this forum is not really connected to PAP anymore (although still Rog's forum who happens to also be involved with PAP/Void), so it's not a sure fire way of making contact or dealing with the company, although you 'may' get a response. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 10:06pm
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Se non ci fossero persone cattive, non ci sarebbero buoni avvocati.
------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 10:10pm
Feel no way boss sometimes things hafi get out , I not going to beatup me missis cause Mark don´t answer me  now I know am not alone. am done here. see you where the grass is dark,  ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 08 January 2010 at 10:14pm
lol i understood that(i understand better english than that"automatic translate"lol..and my answer is the same
he has seen this today,whatever i spoke with mark someminutes ago(by text messages)to tell him what was happening here because ive been totally honest and i dont want to look like something im not.
i didnt want to get an answer from someone at void/pap..i can talk with them(now)..i just answered to the guy to say that ive been waiting so much time for the same stuff..i didnt say nothing here till now.but if you say that i"cant blame mark"or that what i said its not true i have to say something because is not like that. i hope you understand what im trying to say  edit:lenguage again
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Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 11 January 2010 at 5:25pm
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ok it is only fair on the posters that have brought these issues to light that I post here. first of all i'd like to state that giordihc did experience some issues as he has stated. and secondly id like to thank toasty and sibilus for making the points that they have made. yes you were 100% correct with the lack of materials then being compunded by the christmas new years holiday season. I dont want to post too much here as I can see it turning into either an argument or just a complete farce that will help absolutely no one. Many appologies to all involved and I hope I will have all these problems sorted asap. thanks again to everyone M ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 11 January 2010 at 6:05pm
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No hard feelings Boss , new year new vibes . thanks . I´l pm you Francis ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 12 January 2010 at 9:35am
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Hey Mark
You could start sorting out the fact that you still havent answered my mails.
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 7:23am
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Uummmmm, So have you got your 8 Looney Bins Giordi? I ask because you sent me an email last year along with a picture of one of your new Looney Bins asking what the ports in the rear chamber were for. You also asked me for the recommended processor setup and then replied with this: “thanks for your answer, now its clear. I’m sorry if I’m not getting this but from my contact with you during last year I at no time got any kind of response from you that suggested you were unhappy with the transaction. So you can see why I’m very surprised when you now say things like, |
Posted By: Hi_Varu
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 7:28am
ma sei italiano? :-) perchè kenya/danimarca? ------------- Note: Never try to reproduce non-musical sounds like artillery explosions or gunfire with DBX subharmonic synthesizer 120A |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 7:52am
Sono dal Kenya e io vivo in Danimarca ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 8:13am
hello, yes last year..it was 21 december 2009..less than one month ago ive done the order between march and april if im not wrong. first 6 looneys were ready to go.ive got 4 after 3 months..2 after 6 months and last 2 in the end of december. and im still waiting amplifiers.
so what? can you"quote"where,in this thread or somewhere else,i said something bad about looney bins or stasys 3?they are great cabinets..thats sure..i was talking about deal and service. and there is a reason if i told you nothing about my deal..but if you want i can tell you in private.(if you dont know something it doesnt mean it is not true) ive been 100% correct and all ive said is true.so if you want to go on like that its not a problem to me. edit:ive got amplifier etc five minutes ago.
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Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 8:21am
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 9:13am
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I’m sorry your dealing with PAP went bad Giordi, but I had no idea there was a problem. I don’t get involved with any of the business side of things, I just do the R&D, but I am still surprised you never mentioned anything about long delays to me during our conversations. If you had I might have been able to help out, although I have to say that building Looney Bins is a real pain in the arse as we don’t make many and have to make parts for them to order, so there is not much I could have done. I’ve never been a fan of making Looney Bins as it undermines the other products we manufacture and does the industry no good whatsoever by selling at such a cheap price. So I think stopping manufacture of the Looney Bin after all current orders have been supplied we be the only way to go. |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 9:21am
i wasnt talking about you rog.you and terry have been nice with me.thats all. edit:lenguage
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 9:26am
The short answer is, only Mark knows.
I saw this thread yesterday and sent a link to other directors and managers and no one was aware of your situation. Mark has been dealing with your order, as is practice when ordering Looney bins via PAP. My deepest apologies and I have forwarded your complaint to a company director that is in a position to sort out this confusion.
I sincerely hope this can be sorted out very quickly
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 9:32am
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As I don’t have your contact details can I suggest that you don’t contact Mark anymore but contact mailto:alex@voidaudio - alex@voidaudio to bring a resolution to all this. |
Posted By: adambomb
Date Posted: 13 January 2010 at 7:08pm
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Poor mark. ------------- http://www.freespeakerplans.com" rel="nofollow - www.freespeakerplans.com |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 14 January 2010 at 10:23am
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 14 January 2010 at 10:35am
Since I need to get in touch with him myself, I know that Alex wasn't actually back at work from his Christmas break until this morning, so he'll have only been there for an hour or so. Give him a chance. |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 14 January 2010 at 11:36am
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Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 26 January 2010 at 10:01am
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Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 27 January 2010 at 9:14pm
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UPDATE: Things are going in the right direction now. I had a really good phone-conversation with Terry from VoidAudio, who cleared up some things. Bad communication can lead to a lot of trouble for both parts. It was inappropriate of me to discuss this matter here on this forum, so I have deleted these posts. Keep you all updated on how my Looneys sound, when i receive them. |
Posted By: Cyklist
Date Posted: 27 January 2010 at 10:21pm
great idea venting on a public forum then wasn't it 
------------- purple monkey dishwasher |
Posted By: Gander
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 8:30pm
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What a loonie bin? KG |
Posted By: Speaker Sol
Date Posted: 06 February 2010 at 12:03am
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 3:08am
http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/looneybin.asp - http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/looneybin.asp
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 22 February 2010 at 4:01pm
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is there any real mesurement that have been done on the looney ? on the 1850 ? |
Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 1:57pm
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does somebody know if the 3db more output is 3db more 1W1M ? on the wall frequency range ?
is the looney driver an void V18-1000 or an oem version of this one ?
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Posted By: Speaker Sol
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 2:01pm
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I would think on 3dB on the total power, but hey thats the same as doubling the power, so they should be as loud at 500W as a 1850 is at 1000W. in the real world though I don't know... Edit - Sorry don't think that quite makes sense now that I have thought about it.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 2:14pm
It's an OEM version, you can't buy it off the shelf. |
Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 2:20pm
i don't want to buy any of this oem driver, it's just to try to understand.
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Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 23 February 2010 at 4:05pm
The looney driver is V18-1000A,the version that is for sell is V18-1000C.
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Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 9:41am
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Hey all
I have now recieved my 8 Looney Bins. When i get the time i will come up with a review and pics.
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 1:12pm
is ther anybody who can give me an answer to this question ?
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 1:17pm
sales@proaudioparts.co.uk perhaps? |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 5:32pm
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Hey all Just finished unwrapping and mounting wheels. I can only say that I'm very impressed. The Build quality is flawless, and they look very sexy. The covers are very nice too, and the packaging was very extensive and secure. We are using them for a 800 guest highscool gig next Saturday. The initial problems seems so far away, and right now I'm like a small kid a Christmas eve. Big thanks to Terry from Voidaudio for providing flawless service.    |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:24pm
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Those bins really are looney!!!!! ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:36pm
For a given enclosure (principe and volume) a more efficient driver would mean it's gotta put the compromise somewhere else. Either a very different frequency response or a lot meatier driver with a different frequency response. Still 3 dB is an awfull lot.
Easier would be to increase the maximum SPL, based upon a lower power compression, more Xmax, again a neodymium driver with the same weight of the ceramic counterpart should qualify. Together with better bracing to snoop those tenth's of dB's.
Even easier it's to lie and just to say it's 3 dB more efficient.
Some walk the hardest path, some the easiest. Hard to tell with insufficient information.
Regards Johan
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:41pm
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Isn't part of the magic in the coil material on the driver in the Looney? ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: pfly
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:57pm
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Congrats! Those look phenomenal. Looney bins got to be the most cost effective way of getting quality bass with all the finishing touches. I'm wondering how much more would they cost if they'd come with full grills? |
Posted By: luke_0301
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 7:59pm
------------- more bass please |
Posted By: pfly
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 8:05pm
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I like the look without, but with grills they'd be more hireable for some things... |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 12:09am
True, but i really like the raw horn look, and as long is my primary gigs are highschools, where stomach crunching bass seems to be the way to go, I don't really need grills. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 9:30am
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With all this Mark bashing going on here, i've gotta say i've always had good service from him-
always answered my calls, 2 comps turned up with 36hrs of placing my order with him. when i spanked a v1200 he met me @ 9pm on a friday night and sorted me out a replacement unit in time for my gig the next night....i couldnt see anyone from Blue aran offering to hang around for me on a friday night. |
Posted By: kazakore
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 9:46am
I had come to the conclusion it was the Mk2 (more recent) Loonies that had the Speakon connectors on the access panel itself, not half way down the cabinet. Is this not the case? I have six bought secondhand and it was by far the oldest looking one (with driver in worst condition) that had the Speakons on the position in the picture above, which is how I came to this conclusion. |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 10:39am
i've got 8 mk2(or superloonies)and the speakon are half way down the cabinet..if you want to know if they are mk1 or 2 just take off the access panel..they are not the same"inside".
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Posted By: kazakore
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 11:18am
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Not too worried. Bought 6 secondhand off somebody who had 16 of them, purchased in two lots (both secondhand of people confirmed to have bought official Loonies new.) Five of them seem slightly newer, have larger bolts with washers and Speakons on the panel. The older seeming one looks exactly the same as the photo above, with the Speakons in the centre and smaller bolts without the recess in the wood. I did notice that the cutout for the driver seems off centre for most of them but didn't think it was for the older looking one but I might be mistaken. (Is that something that shouldn't be posted on here?) I really can't remember and can't be bothered to take all the backs off again. They sound good enough no matter what :) |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 2:00pm
The cabs that are received when you place an order for a Looney direct from PAP now is not the same as the ones you own. The new ones are modified further and have a different driver. |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 2:58pm
no the driver is the same.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 3:01pm
Ah, my mistake then. I was pretty certain Rog said it contained a slightly modifed driver once again, but since he recently deleted his accounts I wasn't able to easily search his posts to verify that... |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 3:05pm
i just checked my emails because i wasnt sure and Rog wrote to me:"The drivers are V18-1000A, which are the same driver that have always been in the Looney bin."
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Posted By: kazakore
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 5:45pm
| Is it true that the V18-1000 you buy from say PAP are slightly different though? Sure I saw comment they were V18-1000C/D (can't remember which.) |
Posted By: Wrighty
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 5:57pm
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I remember Rog saying in a previous post... V18-1000A has an aluminium coil (and is a special for the Looney). V18-1000C has a copper coil (and is the one you can buy from PAP). ------------- ALL YOUR BASS ARE BELONG TO US. |
Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 8:44pm
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I saw a picture of what lurks behind the rear access panel today! Its very easy to tell the difference between the super looney and the original. @Kazakore: did you buy your looneys from toy town? |
Posted By: giordihc
Date Posted: 01 March 2010 at 9:45pm
i guess it was mine
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Posted By: kazakore
Date Posted: 04 March 2010 at 8:07am
Could be. From Lincoln area and I believe half his originally came from you but can't remember which ones (although my split is 5 - 1 types.) |
Posted By: Hvedstrup
Date Posted: 06 March 2010 at 3:52pm
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Just finished setting up for the the first gig using the looneys. The setup is totally overkill for a 600 person high school gig, but we had to try our new babies out. After I finished SMAART, and cranked up the volume, the bass was truly immense, and my ears started popping. Regarding sound quality, I'm very impressed, since they sound good on both house, RnB and disco (i have always loved the "horn" sound). They are truly a fantastic piece of kit, and next time ill bring som more tops  |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 1:26pm
like the other successful bins around that are free, I hope plans will be posted on the SPEAKERPLANS SITE, since this bin (looney bin) might be off production....... hahahaha..........you the man Roger!!! ------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: moyano
Date Posted: 08 September 2011 at 7:19am
| so can anyone confirm whether the mark 2's have the speakons in the panel or not? and has the actual design changed at all apart from the super looney? |