Best folded Horns
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Forum Name: 1850 and 186 horns
Forum Description: Discussion / Questions about the 1850 and 186 horns
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Topic: Best folded Horns
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Subject: Best folded Horns
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 3:58pm
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Most efficient folded horn cabinets, comparisons using like for like
Drivers and Amps... Size to power output as an example or sound pressure level (SPL) and throw ect... Would be interested in Plans, Drawings all appreciated.... |
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Posted By: Hi_Varu
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 3:59pm
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Damm Read before post silly posts ------------- Note: Never try to reproduce non-musical sounds like artillery explosions or gunfire with DBX subharmonic synthesizer 120A |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 4:19pm
size to power output 
SPL = sound pressure level in my eyes! ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: hmaudio
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 5:33pm
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+1 and also using a decent driver, theres always one who wants to build a 1850 and load it with an eminence delta "pro" ------------- Nottingham based cab builder. https://www.facebook.com/HMAudio-154352667920145/?ref=bookmarks This account is used by 2 people. |
Posted By: Sibulus
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:12pm
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<icecream> ------------- http://soundcloud.com/judas-beast |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:14pm
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Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:16pm
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backlash wrote:Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:21pm
Most of my findings are peoples opinions, or totally trailing of the subjects... I'm looking for replies from people that have actually used their favoured horns side by side for a comparison? |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:28pm
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Well I prefer band pass horns personally, nicer kick to them and cleaner sound IMO. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 7:59pm
Are there any plans about of this design, pointing me the right direction to find a good example would be appreciated... Thanks |
Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 8:01pm
Or you could have a look in the plans section of the forum?
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 8:04pm
| well the usb, hd15, es18bph are all examples of band pass horns with plans about here.. |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 9:04pm
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although there are no designs, funktion one 215/218/221 (and single equivalents)/a lot of turbo sound and thunder ridge are all band pass horns!
Folded horns play deeper with more spl but can sound un-clean to me at times hence sticking with the short horns. Oh and USB! ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 9:33pm
Yeah I like the look of the USB, Thanks for your help I know a chap that has some I could try out against my horns, will decide if keep them or not? |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 9:48pm
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reflex horns? Are they loaded in a V and more of a reflex than a horn?
If so a band pass horn will probably out do the reflex in a lot of areas mainly spl. The reflex will cover more of a frequency range though. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 10:48pm
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The cab's I use in my personal system are turbosound Hilight THL-828 and some copys are mixed in (boke-audio) MA 828 (DBL) from Andrew @ sonic sound systems and he said the they are reflex horn, I doubt they are? They are loaded with custom built fane drivers, very close to funktion one drivers the guy said, as they make some of their drivers.. Just looking to improve my sound really, if I can ? I'm using x2 crown 5002vz amps to run 8 cab's, each cab is 1000 watts, and it sounds really good so i have been told, never really run it above half on the amps... mainly I use it on live bands and some dance music? I'm happy with my tops though X6 D&B C4 TOP's I got cheap once |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 11:07pm
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Those boke are band pass cabinets I'm sure! You will never get 'close' to funktion one unless it is funktion one. They usually use PHL and other brands but have OEM drivers with them. I personally (not trying to pick fault here) don't have much time for anyone trying to recreate funktion one. There are so many other speakers out there that deserve the praise in their own right! Why and change something that already sounds good, to sound like a funktion one bin? Yes the bins don't sound bad, 800wAES per cabinet etc so efficient I'll give them that. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 11:25pm
it was an example with funktion one as the chap at fane said what I wanted was very much the same as what he built for them... I wanted a low input with a high output (High SPL) sent him the cab's spec's and he built them. The turbo's drivers in my cab's where missing when I got them, some fool had put sytec 500 watt max drivers in them... |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 11:39pm
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Mmmm sky tec......
Sorry it wasn't made clear about the drivers being close. What wattage are they AES? As I know the funktion one's are very efficient. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: Atom-Acoustics
Date Posted: 09 January 2010 at 11:54pm
| He did say 500 AES Each, 99 db sensitivity 4" Voice coil, I do have it all with my paper work somewhere... |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 12:09am
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Sounds like a good driver and very power efficient. Funktion one OEM drivers are 400w AES I believe! ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 12:25am
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Well don't discount the newer 2x21" F1 bandpass subs, they are a marked improvement on the original and certainly soak up more power (1500W). |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 1:23am
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What about the mk2 218's? I heard the newer 221's and was blown away - literally the only rig with funktion one that knows the definition of bass!
DMT's club rig bristol. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |
Posted By: evolution rob
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 4:15am
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 11:30am
What cabs do they use PHL in then? I believe it's predominently Fane and PD OEM. Nexo are a big customer of PHL ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 10 January 2010 at 12:33pm
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I was thinking nexo/turbo who used PHL though I am lead to believe that some of the early f1 bins used PHL for a short while. ------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction. http://www.truesoundhire.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Sound Hire |