MT/limmer
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Forum Name: MT122
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Topic: MT/limmer
Posted By: Father-Francis
Subject: MT/limmer
Date Posted: 26 February 2010 at 8:45pm
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just what the heading says , taking MT to a different level. the Mt12 with the Limmer 042, loaded Ciare 6.38MR3, BC.Speakers DE25, the snow is melting .
time for work.
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Posted By: colinmono
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 9:50am
| Should be a good combo, Dom had some cabs with Porn Mk1 12" horns and Limmer 042 which he spoke highly of. |
Posted By: nomis
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 10:48am
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i ve been using the limmer042/12 in horn underneath.good combo.takes a while getting the delays right,as crossed at 500,if you get it wrong,it can make vocals less pure(split across two drivers).also,the limmer has a very clean sound,which can take a while getting used to if you are used to 'crunchy' snares. ------------- all that glitters is not gold |
Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 27 February 2010 at 1:10pm
you use limmer 042 with limmer 312 ?
what the recommanded crossover point between the 6,5 and the de25 ?
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nomis wrote:Posted By: Bjørn Dub
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 6:52pm
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Bump.. Was just about to aks all these questions to, I guess our minds think alike here Francis.. So here goes, whats the recomended crossover ? Next investment will be 4 - 6 of those lovely packs.. cant wait.. ------------- 1850 FRB C. (; |
Posted By: nomis
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 7:34pm
http://img245.imageshack.us/i/lim042.jpg/"> hi,i built the crossover recommended on the speakerstore site.it works very well.before that,i used an ultradrive,and ended up crossing around 2-3k,but found a 5way active rig too complicated. ------------- all that glitters is not gold |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 7:35pm
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Installation
dimensions 358x358mm Phase plug in the 6''Horn Suitable for midrange driver 6'' e.g. The Ciare 6.38MR3. Separation at about 500Hz ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 7:57pm
of course it is specially when you use 1way that you was not supposed too...i don't understand why you choose the limmer 312 indeed of limmer 085.
312 according to the limmer website go only from 300hz and up, the 085 go enough down to meet a sub so you would have only 4way with it.
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Posted By: nomis
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 8:20pm
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no.i meant hogs,martin115,12in horn(own design)then limmer042,which if run active makes a 5way system. ------------- all that glitters is not gold |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 8:39pm
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We are also running a 5way system sounds wicked
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Posted By: dj-panoramix
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 9:28pm
ah ok...
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 27 March 2010 at 3:05pm
How does your limmer keepup with the 12" , cause we was thinking of 2x12" an the limmer on top of that. you get me? 2mt section per Limmer 042 , we are just waiting for the limmers  ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 02 June 2010 at 8:51am
after hard labour 4 kids born their pics will be up soon. 
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 11:39am
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Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 12:14pm
| they look pro - i wanted to buy some but theyre $$$$$ |
Posted By: Bjørn Dub
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 3:03pm
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Sound pro too.. They are beautiful machines, cant wait to test them with live music.
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 3:59pm
we have just had them for a week was out doing 3 gigs in 2 days and they are sounding better by the day, get them Saul. the cabs are Pd123 in the 12" , Limmer 042, Ciare 6.38MR3, BC.Speakers DE25, I´l say each cab´s about 1150£ when done we´l be making wheel-boards F1 style to move them around . ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 6:50pm
Yep!
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Posted By: eltron
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 7:26pm
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I've been wondering about this combo for a while. Isn't the dispersion of the 042 much wider than that of the MT122 12" -section? Just off the top of my head... Clean looking cabs Francis!
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Posted By: Dom
Date Posted: 05 June 2010 at 8:13pm
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Not really - I used to run mark 1 porn horns with limmer 042 tops which is a similar combination The limmer combo plays down so low (500hz) that the 12" section isn't really directional at all in it's bandwidth... ------------- "It sounded like a million fire engines chasing ten million ambulances through a war zone and it was played at a volume that made the empty chair beside me bleed." |
Posted By: huhts
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 7:44pm
| How big/small back box volumes have you used for the ciare 6.38mr2 in limmer042? |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 9:25pm
Did a few jobs without any back box , and notice that the sound from the 6.38 was very low at 15-20 metres so am making some moulds different sizes and will let you know what size sounds best, ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Dom
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 9:52pm
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When I did my Limmer/Porn horns the back box for the 6.38 was as small as they could possibly be. The back box was basically the same internal diameter as the baffle cutout and the same depth as the driver. The back of the back box was an aluminium plate that acted as a heatsink for the magnet. We did some modelling of the driver and horn in Akabak and it wanted a tiny rear chamber, of the order of 0.5litres... I'm probably going to stick them up in the for sale section at some point if anyone's interested... ------------- "It sounded like a million fire engines chasing ten million ambulances through a war zone and it was played at a volume that made the empty chair beside me bleed." |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 10:07pm
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Thanks for the info Dom that will save us some time ,
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Posted By: huhts
Date Posted: 25 May 2011 at 10:51pm
| Thank you! That's what I was thinking also. The limmer p2 and p3 designs (speakerstore.nl) just have some bigger enclosures behind ciare that confused me a bit. |
Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 03 June 2011 at 5:20pm
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I’ve been playing around with the limmer combination for a while now. Small rear chamber volume is definitely the way to go. Sounds sweet in short throw applications. ------------- it's all just cardboard and magnets really |
Posted By: Pirlo
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 10:53pm
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update?!?
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Posted By: hulkeh
Date Posted: 04 April 2013 at 4:51pm
What crossover points did you use?  |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 April 2013 at 5:41pm
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12" run from 140-around 950-1000 the Ciare 6.38MR3 runs from 900-3k then BC. DE25 does, the rest you can always fine tune from there if you don´t like the sound . Francis ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: hulkeh
Date Posted: 05 April 2013 at 6:56pm
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Nice, thanks :) Been thinking about the mt limmer combo but just weighing up costings and things :s What's your opinion on the cab? Would you recommend it? |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 April 2013 at 7:09pm
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it´s a good cab just don´t put three per side in a thin room cause the top spreads quite much. two per side max. ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 17 October 2018 at 8:50am
Five years later speakers still going strong, now They’ve come up with something new  and this one too  I want to play with these this winter ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 26 October 2018 at 6:06pm
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the limmer 308 aint exactly new at all afaik.. unfortunately they are too shallow/small to meet "usual" kicks properly imo - i would go with Bens/Bees take on "porn horns"/"SP12s" if i would consider such a 4way setup.. |