Get Your Racks Out Part 2
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Topic: Get Your Racks Out Part 2
Posted By: Bryan M
Subject: Get Your Racks Out Part 2
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 12:00am
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I have an obsession for anything that's 19'' wide and fits in a rack, post them here
This puppy is all ready in Ibiza. Left last week :-)
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Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 12:03am
Now thats a decent rack picture to start this thread on 
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Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 12:14am
Posted By: THECANDLEMAN
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 12:39am
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Not much but getting new bits here and there (Pic from last night)
------------- Motion Systems - Void Airmotion, Airten & Stasys 218 With Powersoft DSP
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Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 1:21am
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A picture of my racks from Friday night's gig.
http://img200.imageshack.us/i/dsc0207eo.jpg/">
------------- Symmetry Soundsystem
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Posted By: Stray-Sounds
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 1:31am
2 x DBX 231, berry graphic n comps.
XP5000, XP3000, CVR PA1500, 2 x Yamaha P7000
Me pulling a silly face with gaffa tape on my head.

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Posted By: streetsounds
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 2:35am
From yesterday picture during the tasting fp series amp

------------- Bass matters...
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 10:36am
Whats are these FP amps like?
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 10:44am
jacethebase wrote:
Whats are these FP amps like?
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They don't look like genuine Lab Gruppen...
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 11:19am
No there not Labs. they are Chinese copys, i saw them on ebay the other day for about a grand a pop, saying they can deiliver 6.5k @2r in too each channel.
------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk
www.stage2sound.com
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Posted By: djyves
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:43pm
Spesh wrote:
A picture of my racks from Friday night's gig.
http://img200.imageshack.us/i/dsc0207eo.jpg/"> |
what is the brand and type of the 1u amp? (with the green switch)
------------- "If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough!"
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:45pm
Chameleon
------------- 4 ohms is for wimps
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Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 9:13pm
looks like a smart sound to me jonh
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Posted By: streetsounds
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 9:27am
jacethebase wrote:
No there not Labs. they are Chinese copys, i saw them on ebay the other day for about a grand a pop, saying they can deiliver 6.5k @2r in too each channel.
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Yup a clone one but as powerful as the original, 2350w rms/ch at 8ohms. Ran 4 186 (sd18el) a side 2ohms not a problem, lot of bass.
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Posted By: pfly
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 10:03am
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I've understood that the architechture of Labs is a real challenge to put together. Copying them 1:1 would be real nightmare.
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 10:31am
@ Streetsounds, Would you mind sending me some detailed photos of the lab copy and your honist opinion and any teething problems if any etc. PM me. Jace
------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk
www.stage2sound.com
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 9:51pm
Bryan M wrote:
looks like a smart sound to me jonh
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You bugger 
------------- 4 ohms is for wimps
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 9:30pm

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www.stage2sound.com
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 9:34pm
That gig was what you could have called a throw in!
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www.stage2sound.com
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 10:41pm
1 XP5000, 2 UKP2100x, with berry ultra curve and DCX2496. UKP1300 and other XP5000 are in another case.
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: aaronswp
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 11:25pm
Posted By: Xmax extreme
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 12:31pm
jacethebase wrote:
@ Streetsounds, Would you mind sending me some detailed photos of the lab copy and your honist opinion and any teething problems if any etc. PM me. Jace |
Hello jace, please check your PM  .
Best Regards
Max
------------- Maximum Excursion
Don't criticize your own competition, it looks like a publicity of your own commercial products.
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:06pm
Sorry to post another picture of the rack and this is mainly for the attention of sinfinity and andyamp, but also for anyone else interested.
This was taken in honiton motel for a hard dance night, just before we had to turn the amps down. We had noise complaints when the system was running with no VU meter lights what so ever. The bass was mainly the problem, XP5000 running 2.66ohm per channel running 3K of bass per channel. Every time we got a flicker of a VU led we had a phone call from the local residents who live 70m down the road.
On this topic, the resident called environmental health, to which the reply was "we are unable to come out to deal with your complaint until tuesday morning" which is when the resident took it upon themselves to call the venue directly instead!
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:17pm
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What's with the amp levels set differently, this should be sorted out with the LMS should it not?
Last night i was getting complaints before i hit any leds on my K6, does that make me better? 
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:20pm
jonminns wrote:
What's with the amp levels set differently, this should be sorted out with the LMS should it not?Last night i was getting complaints before i hit any leds on my K6, does that make me better?  |
The UKP1300 was running compressions in mono on one channel, and monitor on the other channel. We always keep our amp cut back for compression drivers like that.
And I'd say it doesn't make you better or worse, just ultimately as good 
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:30pm
only joking
Fair enough, do you notice any issues running comps in mono but in stereo stacks?
------------- 4 ohms is for wimps
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:49pm
As they were in a mono stack it is fine. Ran mids at 8ohm but amp on mono on the 2100x.
If we run stereo stacks we run it stereo jon, come on... I aint that much of a cowboy!
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 6:04pm
Not implying you are a cowboy! Going on pics i've seen of your system it's always been stereo stacks that's all
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 6:24pm
Yep, it depends on the kit we take and what the promoter wants and whats best for the venue. Oh and what is feasibly safe. Right, less talking more pictures
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: The Doc
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 9:23am
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Sat and Sunday @ Agenda, London. In the back room.....
------------- Do it with love or for love. Now let's kick some ass! [http://www.myspace.com/take2audio]
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Posted By: The Doc
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 9:26am
Dbx crossover in use, Crown on tops and QSC on mids. The second amp rack had the berries switched off, while the crowns were bridged for bass.
------------- Do it with love or for love. Now let's kick some ass! [http://www.myspace.com/take2audio]
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Posted By: The Doc
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 9:32am
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Agenda again, the main room...
The two crowns doing mids and tops. Then a bridged Crest 9200 and a bridged Matrix XP2400 doing bass....
------------- Do it with love or for love. Now let's kick some ass! [http://www.myspace.com/take2audio]
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Posted By: The Doc
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 9:35am
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Carnival 2009 float amp rack. Crowns on mids and tops, and two QSC PL380 for bass....
------------- Do it with love or for love. Now let's kick some ass! [http://www.myspace.com/take2audio]
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Posted By: djscooby
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 12:22pm
Bryan M wrote:
looks like a smart sound to me jonh
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same company fella they took over i think it is very nice amps i love my chameleon amp i need to get the other one repaired
------------- Well my wife has kicked me out saying it's over due to my obsession with speakers don't know watt I'm gonna do with no ohm to go to
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Posted By: LSS
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 12:18am
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right my DIY amp rack you can laugh i do
as you can see its not finished needs some 16amp plugs in the back
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Posted By: highlyunlikely
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 1:35am
a little bit of opus ,friends rack...
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 1:35am
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That looks fairly... erm... lethal?
EDIT - not the opus rack, the big purple thing and the wiring within!
------------- 4 ohms is for wimps
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Posted By: highlyunlikely
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 1:51am
this is the rack we use...
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Posted By: highlyunlikely
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 1:54am
this was the other rack for the main rig...
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 3:05am
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nice one...
any problems with them yet?
heard a few things about them lightweight mc2s...
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Posted By: highlyunlikely
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 3:16am
bass*en*mass wrote:
nice one...
any problems with them yet?
heard a few things about them lightweight mc2s... |
They were the amps on the other rig..quite like my ffa ,have not really used them... When the one in the pic were used we outplayed them...
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Posted By: DJ Joul
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 9:51am
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A picture of my racks
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 8:37pm
highlyunlikely wrote:
a little bit of opus ,friends rack...
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2 comments:
1. very smart and neat
2. HEAVY!
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 8:48pm
DJ Joul wrote:

A picture of my racks |
Are those amps in the bottom of you rack those QSC copies (made by a company called 2SC)?
How do they perform?
------------- Symmetry Soundsystem
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Posted By: Ocean Blue sound
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 9:11pm
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[QUOTE=Bryan M]I have an obsession for anything that's 19'' wide and fits in a rack, post them here
looking real good... propz
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Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 07 April 2010 at 2:29am
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Anyone got the pics of the xta demo rack they take to shows? That needs to be in this thread!
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Posted By: DJ Joul
Date Posted: 07 April 2010 at 9:49am
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Yes it is a copy of the production company 2SC. Reliable amplifiers, put their Open Air with bad generators and crazy DJs.
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Posted By: jonny4288
Date Posted: 07 April 2010 at 4:49pm
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Just finished loading a little rack, looks rather small and cute compared to some of the racks on here :p
want to get a new 8u rack, done beleive this one to be strong enough for the weight it holds and will just use this 6u rack for lms eq and patch bay
top to bottom
str1200
str2400
str3000
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Posted By: colinmono
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 7:01pm
Another compact and bijou rack... running a 2x15" sub on one channel of the Pulse 1100, mids from the other and compression drivers on the RA2000

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Posted By: cyte
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 10:10pm
Spesh wrote:
A picture of my racks from Friday night's gig.
http://img200.imageshack.us/i/dsc0207eo.jpg/"> |
Anyone ever nuked a laptop hard drive by leaving it on an amp? I'm very wary of this (my PC lives in a separate rack to my amps on the other side of the room!) but i've never heard of anything bad happening in real life...
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Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 14 April 2010 at 4:58pm
Nowt as fancy as a lot of you guys but this was last summers setup. We didn't even own any rack cases then lol.

------------- Don't test the champignon sound
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Posted By: dropthebassncl
Date Posted: 15 April 2010 at 1:32am

top to bottom pv 2600 ,matrix s600 ,matrix str3000,matrix 500,matrix xp1500,matrix xp3000
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Posted By: mikey bear
Date Posted: 15 April 2010 at 9:38pm
Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 16 April 2010 at 1:54pm
Just need to get rid of the xti and get another lab 2000 or 4000
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 17 April 2010 at 6:16pm
Should this not be in the racks section of the Show Off... bit?
Anyways:
The compressors should be in a rack, yes, but they were kind of thrown in last minute!
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Posted By: pfly
Date Posted: 17 April 2010 at 7:25pm

Left: Four Inf5 Mk1s and an Ultradrive, Tapco & Berry analogue Xover handling monitor business.
Right: A&H WZ16:2 Mk1 LA Audio 2ch tube compressor Klark DN410 parametric master EQ Lexicon MX200 Void Resonator parametric monitor EQ Klark 4ch gate DBX 266 Berry 2ch comp/gate (DBX 1066 ripoff)
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 12:01am
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powering 12 martin w8lc's
------------- system:
20 x MA W8L
12 x MA W8LC
12 x MA W8LM
20 x MA S-218
8 x D.A.S. ST-112
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Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 10:45pm
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When i finaly get round to get my infinite x i am going to ask them to strip the powdercoating off them so they look like the old mk 1 infinite range. They are very pleasing to the eye i think
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Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 10:50pm
Bryan M wrote:
When i finaly get round to get my infinite x i am going to ask them to strip the powdercoating off them so they look like the old mk 1 infinite range. They are very pleasing to the eye i think
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+1
the mk1's looked awesome
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Posted By: Stray-Sounds
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 11:09pm
Just loaded up my new rack. thanks Bass!

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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 11:48pm
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that's a nice looking little distro / patch panel there.
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Posted By: Stray-Sounds
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 11:55pm
Me?
Jonminns made it. im very happy with it. 
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 20 April 2010 at 11:59pm
Saul wrote:
Bryan M wrote:
When i finaly get round to get my infinite x i am going to ask them to strip the powdercoating off them so they look like the old mk 1 infinite range. They are very pleasing to the eye i think
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+1 the mk1's looked awesome |
I dunno, I like the plain black look. I'd get my Mk2s done to match if I could.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 12:24am
Stray-Sounds wrote:
Me?Jonminns made it. im very happy with it.
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yes, you.
i really need to get on distros soon enough...
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:17pm

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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:18pm
Have not got round too cleaning the old KA's out ready for the summer so excuse the dust ;) MC2's are done. Also before anyone jumps on it thats not the correct patch panel for the MC2"s
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Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:33pm
cravings wrote:
Stray-Sounds wrote:
Me?Jonminns made it. im very happy with it.
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yes, you.
i really need to get on distros soon enough... |
Speak to Jonminns. He built a distro for me too and it's perfect. Also very reasonably priced.
------------- Symmetry Soundsystem
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Posted By: backlash
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:39pm
What are the KA's like jace?
------------- According to suicide statistics, Monday is the favored day for self-destruction.
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 9:49pm
Ok for mid top duty not the best amps if im honist sound sweet but as about as reliable as a rover! I have enuff of them too nurse them so its all good. I have another 4 than in that picture.
------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk
www.stage2sound.com
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Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 7:43pm
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Mish Mash!
Note old faithful, a doctored Hill that doesn't DC everthing in sight
Bottom to top.
Phonic MAR6
Hill DX1500
3 x Audiohead AH1800.
LEMdx24
Top one
Crown XLS602
PECA900
Kam KXR300
Berry x
2
------------- It just is.
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Posted By: mikey bear
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 8:01pm
Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 9:23pm
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Top rack just does 4 x 18's (600w Fanes) and 15 +1, RCF plus DJ Monitors. Pub rig.
Sometimes the Crown get's swapped out for one of the igger ones if it's younsters, but for wedding/normal the underpowered route is more than enough.
The other rack is work in progress. The idea is 4 x 186 4r drivers in (not made my mind up) then upwards...I have funny felling I'm going to end up in scoop world.... 
Having said that it's all for sale if need be, stuff comes and goes.
------------- It just is.
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Posted By: jonny4288
Date Posted: 03 June 2010 at 3:14pm
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Stray-Sounds, do you happen to have a picture of the rear of that distro?
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Posted By: Yagga
Date Posted: 07 June 2010 at 10:55am
Some Void goodies is use:
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Posted By: djsam3000
Date Posted: 07 June 2010 at 7:51pm
Posted By: Stray-Sounds
Date Posted: 09 June 2010 at 11:39pm
jonny4288
Dont have any pics but i'll get some next time its out.
goes something like this
p/con nl4 nl4 xlr 13a 13a 13a 13a p/con nl4 nl4 xlr
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Posted By: Aldini
Date Posted: 10 June 2010 at 11:35am

Last Saturdays outdoor rack in back of the van with my little desk light next to it
chevin Lightweight 2000w 2K Crest Audio CA18 MC2 T1000 OHm Cred MK3 OHM CFU A2 Oh and a XTA
------------- Can you hear me now .
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Posted By: Aldini
Date Posted: 10 June 2010 at 11:49am

Pionner CDJs , MVP-7000 , and not so good but great to power my desk light cortex mp3 player Pionner DJM3000 mixer oh and the odd AH mixer
------------- Can you hear me now .
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Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 10 June 2010 at 1:18pm
My rack all wired up.

Not enough pics of the back of peoples racks

Close up of the wires, I know the 4 gang is rubbish but ive never had more than a 13amp supply to run our system off. I try and use sepparate wall sockets for each of the matrix amps so sub and kick have there own supplys.

------------- Adrians Wall Sound System Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers
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Posted By: B.P.Sound
Date Posted: 12 June 2010 at 7:25am
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One of my Cloud racks pulled out of an install for service(do this every 6 months). Bottom 2 VTX750's are bridged to power 2 double wembley 2820's and the other VTX750 for mid/top. got to love these amps. No frills do what they say they do. BUT!!! do need full strip and clean every 6 months and a blow out every 3 months.
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Posted By: Saul
Date Posted: 18 June 2010 at 7:46pm
Posted By: decibel audio
Date Posted: 18 June 2010 at 8:10pm
------------- Derek Dunphy
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 22 June 2010 at 12:51am
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twisted pepper, main room?
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Posted By: decibel audio
Date Posted: 22 June 2010 at 10:03am
ho yes it is.
------------- Derek Dunphy
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Posted By: Cyklist
Date Posted: 22 June 2010 at 3:33pm
someone would seriously want to sort the crap top end sound in there out tho, the airtens would tear yer head off and the stasys3 need some eq for the room their in. bass in there off the stasys x is well nice. serious rack tho, fair play Derek 
------------- purple monkey dishwasher
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 22 June 2010 at 11:07pm
that's the basement you're on about jay. i've only been there a few times but the rig downstairs is just driven silly hard by DJs from what i can see.
the upstairs which the pictured rack is for has 4 air motion and 4 stasys X.. out in the bar has a couple of air motion.. the monitors on the stage are viper tops i think, there's some viper subs sprinkled round the bar... that amp rack probably does all that stuff?
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Posted By: subbass
Date Posted: 28 June 2010 at 1:01am
Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 8:49pm
yes, thats right, ive put my money where my mouth is...
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Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 9:30pm
inspirational..talks the talk walks the walk
------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs"
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 9:54pm
csg wrote:
yes, thats right, ive put my money where my mouth is...
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I'm jealous mate, although it seems one of the PKN badges has snapped off already. Personally I wouldn't stand for such shoddy build quality
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Posted By: subbass
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 10:33pm
Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 10:41pm
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lets just say it's a transitional period. If i were to go all pkn it would mean another 10 or so amps, so you will have to give me a little time on that...
as for the badge - that unit is an older demo unit that is gettig replaced by a new unit in a couple of weeks, hence the different badge.
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Posted By: subbass
Date Posted: 16 July 2010 at 11:01pm
of course, i was thinking they were 4, not 2 channel...
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Posted By: Speaker Sol
Date Posted: 17 July 2010 at 12:14am
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Have to get in on that PKN action.
Just need to sell the Crown to finish it off.
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Posted By: olly-fuel
Date Posted: 20 July 2010 at 11:33pm
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I put these to racks together for a drum n bass/jungle event in chester,
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Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 21 July 2010 at 2:38am
Speaker Sol wrote:
Have to get in on that PKN action.
Just need to sell the Crown to finish it off.
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looking good sol,
wisk i could make it to hear them,
will be plenty of other times tho :)
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Posted By: Biggus
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 1:08pm
Not as powerfull as alot of these racks I've seen on here, but does the trick for what I need.
From top to bottom
Behringer Ultragraph FBQ-3102
Behringer Ultradrive DCX2496 switched into triamp mode
BK Electronics MXF 200
BK Electronics MXF 400
BK Electronics MXF 600MXF 200
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Posted By: Alimon
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 1:37pm
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs375.snc3/24036_410730231041_517106041_5048469_4230113_n.jpg - http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs375.snc3/24036_410730231041_517106041_5048469_4230113_n.jpg
Infinate 8 Mk 2 Infinate 8 mk 1 infinate 7 mk 1 infinate 5 mk 2 berry ultra drivers normally 2 dimensions 4's in there aswel
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 2:29pm
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hey biggus. did the bkelec amps come with the speakon outs, or did you swap them in?
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Posted By: Biggus
Date Posted: 22 July 2010 at 2:38pm
cravings wrote:
hey biggus. did the bkelec amps come with the speakon outs, or did you swap them in? |
Hi Cravings, There came with the speakons in, all there newer amps do these days.
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