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Topic: BMS Drivers and Comps
Posted By: vibez
Subject: BMS Drivers and Comps
Date Posted: 29 April 2010 at 11:07pm
Has anyone else tried BMS drivers and comps in MT cabs???
 
I loaded one of my MT122 cabs today with bms 12s310 and 4544 compression driver and the results were amazing. I was very impressed with the quality of the sound produced.
 
If anyone is planning to build these cabs or unhappy with their current drivers you should definately check these out.
 
Thanks again to Tony Wilkes for recomending fantastic drivers.Clap
 
Regards, Steve. 
 
 



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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 11:12am
Can 4544 be crossed low enough? I am just curious.

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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 11:15am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Can 4544 be crossed low enough? I am just curious.


Just about, the MT needs a bit of EQ to get there when crossed at 1.3K . TBH The 4550 is the better option.

Tony


Posted By: bitzo
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 11:37am
+1 I cross it at 800hz

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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 1:31pm
so whats the difference between the 4544 and the 4550 other than x over point?

i have the 4544's on some new celestion horns recommended by tony, but i've not fired them up to play around with x over points yet.


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 2:23pm
where can we find more info on BMS products?

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Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 2:26pm
www.bmspro.com

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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

so whats the difference between the 4544 and the 4550 other than x over point?

i have the 4544's on some new celestion horns recommended by tony, but i've not fired them up to play around with x over points yet.


Just the X-over point. The 4550's needs a greater Xmax to allow use at a lower cut-off so gets a larger magnet assembly to keep the sensitivity up (more voice coil out of the gap).

On the MT's I would use 4550's and cross them as high as possible, around 1K would be perfect.

Tony


Posted By: vibez
Date Posted: 30 April 2010 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by tweeter box tweeter box wrote:

where can we find more info on BMS products?
Tony Wilkes is the man to speak to as he is a bms supplier.....nice genuine guy too.


Posted By: SebP
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 6:27am
or make MT-130 with BMS4550 and cross at 1.2K http://hornplans.free.fr/mt130.html - http://hornplans.free.fr/mt130.html


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 13 June 2010 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by vibez vibez wrote:

I loaded one of my MT122 cabs today with bms 12s310 and 4544 compression driver and the results were amazing. I was very impressed with the quality of the sound produced.
 
Where did you xOver @ vibez?

Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

i have the 4544's on some new celestion horns recommended by tony, but i've not fired them up to play around with x over points yet.

Tested this yet smithers?


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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 13 June 2010 at 8:30pm
4544 on Celestion H1-9040P on axis.




Posted By: vibez
Date Posted: 14 June 2010 at 9:09am
@ tekasis
 
crossed at 1.3k as advised by tony wilkes.


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 15 June 2010 at 9:21pm
Thumbs Up gents!
 
Looking at the specs of the 4538 & 4544,
 
http://bmsspeakers.com/cone-speaker-compression-driver/ferrite-compression-drivers/bms-1-inch-compression-driver/bms-4538-compression-driver/4538-compression-driver-intro/ - http://bmsspeakers.com/cone-speaker-compression-driver/ferrite-compression-drivers/bms-1-inch-compression-driver/bms-4538-compression-driver/4538-compression-driver-intro/
 
http://bmsspeakers.com/cone-speaker-compression-driver/ferrite-compression-drivers/bms-1-inch-compression-driver/bms-4544-compression-driver/4544-compression-driver-intro/ - http://bmsspeakers.com/cone-speaker-compression-driver/ferrite-compression-drivers/bms-1-inch-compression-driver/bms-4544-compression-driver/4544-compression-driver-intro/
 
the 4538 shows a higher crossover point of 1.9kHz & a higher frequency response compared to the 4544's crossover of 1.3kHz & not as high freq response!
 
Although the 4538's is not as powerful, does this mean it should sound a bit finer/sharper than the 4544's ?
 
Has anyone compared these 2?
 
Cheers.
 


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Posted By: airbell
Date Posted: 16 June 2010 at 3:47pm
I have Bms 4590 with 2236 horn and rcfl12p110k and im very satisfied.
dont know if other 12inch drivers sound better, but output is amazing, and the bms horn
very clear and loud.crossover is at 800hz and 6,3khz 48db/oct.

cheers


Posted By: Sequence Empire:::..
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:19am
Originally posted by Tony Wilkes Tony Wilkes wrote:

Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

so whats the difference between the 4544 and the 4550 other than x over point?

i have the 4544's on some new celestion horns recommended by tony, but i've not fired them up to play around with x over points yet.


Just the X-over point. The 4550's needs a greater Xmax to allow use at a lower cut-off so gets a larger magnet assembly to keep the sensitivity up (more voice coil out of the gap).

On the MT's I would use 4550's and cross them as high as possible, around 1K would be perfect.

Tony

Is there a 1" 60x40 horn that is prefered for the 4550 comp?


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 August 2010 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by Sequence Empire:::.. Sequence Empire:::.. wrote:


Is there a 1" 60x40 horn that is prefered for the 4550 comp?


+1


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Posted By: HighLift
Date Posted: 26 August 2010 at 8:29pm
My MT121:  1.4" bms 4554 on an 18sound xt1464 horn - xover 1.3k with - pd123er 
Sounds great up to 16k but lacking a bit above. may need to play around with the eq a bit.

any suggestions from other users of this combo would be much appreciated.


Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2010 at 10:39am
To be honest the 4554 is a bit of a runt. Compare its FR with the 1"4550. Unless anyone already has the horns I would always recommend the 4550.

@ Highlift you just need to EQ them to give you the tizz. Smile

Tony





Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 August 2010 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Tony Wilkes Tony Wilkes wrote:

To be honest the 4554 is a bit of a runt. Compare its FR with the 1"4550. Unless anyone already has the horns I would always recommend the 4550.

@ Highlift you just need to EQ them to give you the tizz. Smile

Tony



@Tony, will H1-9040 allow 4538/4554/4550 to give 13K+ sparkle without much eq?

If Xover is >=8K ?


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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2010 at 12:35pm
Ray,

Unless you intend to use them later on for other projects 4544/4550 totally wasted. Use either 4538 or 4524 as I pm'ed you. If you mainly want the HF and are happy crossing <5K then no need to spend more than what the 4524 costs.

The 4550 would be perfectly OK on its own in an MT212 if crossed at 1K - 48db/oct, would need EQ at HF to add sparkle but that's all.

Tony



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