2 amps, or 1
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Topic: 2 amps, or 1
Posted By: raffe
Subject: 2 amps, or 1
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 3:37pm
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hey im quite new to speaker building but have my heart set on a pair of mt 122's coupled with (yes i know a very very VERY inadequate and wimpy) single g sub. (with plans to build more adequate ones in the future). i think i will power the g sub with a crown xti 2000 which will give me 400w headroom. and my questions are:
-will i need to run an active crossover? or will i get away with passive (i am on quite a tight budget and the system will not, certainly not yet, be used for anything big, more house parties etc)
-will i be able to run the mt 122's of a single xti 4000 and build them to be 4ohm which would give me 500w headroom on each speaker OR would i need to run the hf driver and LF drivers of different apms through an active crossover?
any help would be highly appreciated :)
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Posted By: djyves
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 5:34pm
use an active crossover and 2 amps, 1 for mids 1 for highs, use a speaker management system like a berry dcx 2496
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 7:15pm
djyves wrote:
use an active crossover and 2 amps, 1 for mids 1 for highs, use a speaker management system like a berry dcx 2496
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+1
For sub, you could buy brand new Crown XLS5000 for £575, with 3 year warranty
http://www.thomann.de/gb/crown_xls_5000.htm - http://www.thomann.de/gb/crown_xls_5000.htm
And 2x Matrix STR1500 for about £350 used, (I prefer QSC, but Matrix is cheaper for you )
That would sort you out, and sound better/have more headroom than XTIs, and also cost less.
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Posted By: breakdabeat pete
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 8:52pm
yup crown xti's are rather poo!
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 June 2010 at 9:05pm
breakdabeat pete wrote:
yup crown xti's are rather poo!
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Know few people bridging XLS5000 into 4 ohm, and very happy.
Should be fine for 2x18s per channel, for "normal" people... 
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 12:37am
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your all such speakers guru's, i swear in my like 3 days in this forum i have increased my knowledge base about 5 million fold. however i am based in australia so i dont think it would be worth buying heavy equipment from europe, also i can get xti cheap through a friend, so people dont rate them? could i run the hf with an xti 1000, which would have 125w headroom at 8ohm, an xti 2000 for the mids, which would have 200w headroom at 4ohm, and then the thing i said earlier for the sub all through that berry thingo? i dont think id really go with any other thing unless he can get them cheap too. thanks for all ur help. oh p.s, it seems that every time i post something my budget gets blown by about another 500 dollars (250 pounds (ish))
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 12:49am
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and also dont xti's have built in delays?
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 12:50am
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so then i could run the delays from the amps and not need the berry dcx 2496 or am i talking totally out of my arse?
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 12:53am
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oh and does crossover presets mean i can set the crossover points on my amps too? or once again, is this me reading something and taking my own optimistic meaning from it?
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 3:33am
Unsubscribing from thread.
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 7:44am
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haha lol, im talking too much doggy poo!
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Posted By: djshaney
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 10:58am
re: what you said before, it WOULD be better to get some decent amps shipped over- the xti's punch just isnt there on bass (imo) whereas matrix's perform well (and you can get them at reasonable prices 2nd hand)
you dont need a dcx2496 really, it would be ideal, but any kind of crossover will do (behringer cx3400 for example, is a 3 way crossover) so provides signals for one amp for the gsub, one for the mids, one for highs
thats gotta be a fuckin loud 'house party' system though..
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Posted By: djshaney
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 11:00am
re-read your first post, okay seeing as you aint built them yet, wouldnt bother with the 122's as theyre quite big cabs and not cheap to load.
if it was me (okay, this is what i DID build) i had 2 gsubs and 2 reflex tops (such as the x12) theyre a perfect match.
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Posted By: jonny4288
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 5:04pm
wouldnt bother with mt122's for house parties, way too much spl for inside a house, would go with a relfex midtop much cheaper solution for your needs too
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 5:25pm
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yeah i'd start with something like a pair of X15s, or similar. these will work as good full range cabs for house parties (loud for house parties), you can then add subs under as funds allow.. and in time, if you've enough bass to call for a pair of tops like mt122s, then you can use the x15s as dj monitors or similar, or a smaller system.
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Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 27 June 2010 at 6:31pm
buy an ultradrive best £200 I've ever spent. heard the xti's on a variety of occasions and i'm really not a fan if you must use them get a 2000 for your tops and a 4000 on mids but go for either the xls's or get something from qsc, ev, some of the older crown stuff or crest second hand and you wont go wrong, also their really isnt any point having all that top end and no bass. buy 2 12's and the compression drivers build some x12's out of mdf and once you can afford at least 3 G-subs then it would be time to build some mt 122's as you'll actually need the efficiency, until then its just more impractical than its worth.
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Posted By: raffe
Date Posted: 28 June 2010 at 8:54am
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thanks for your help everyone :)
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