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Topic: crest 8001 on 13A plug
Posted By: YoungBlood
Subject: crest 8001 on 13A plug
Date Posted: 05 October 2010 at 11:02pm
anybody done this and wondering how it sound in bridge




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Posted By: JohnnyPyro
Date Posted: 05 October 2010 at 11:07pm
shouldnt be a problem at all , ive run a CA12 .. (slightly less power) off a 13a plug and never once had a problem

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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 05 October 2010 at 11:51pm
works fine.

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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 05 October 2010 at 11:53pm
6mm solid copper fuse also helps.

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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 06 October 2010 at 10:07am
oh tony...


Posted By: vibez
Date Posted: 06 October 2010 at 10:51am
Originally posted by JohnnyPyro JohnnyPyro wrote:

shouldnt be a problem at all , ive run a CA12 .. (slightly less power) off a 13a plug and never once had a problem
+1 I often use my ca18 on a 13amp supply, lots of clip lights but never blown a driver.


Posted By: YoungBlood
Date Posted: 06 October 2010 at 11:26am
Originally posted by vibez vibez wrote:

+1 I often use my ca18 on a 13amp supply, lots of clip lights but never blown a driver.


for me  ca18  vz5 using 13A socket on ring main start clipping early in hall unless good wiring and nothing heavy on ring

which is why asking bout 2x 8001s in bridge instead but might use more power

maybe big amp but not 2 ohm stable efficiency better  than ca18/vz5

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


King T, lots big sound do that but anybody else say that here in public them get crucify... LOL


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Posted By: YoungBlood
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?


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Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 3:01pm
NO
As you well know this is stupid/dangerous/illegal.


Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?
 
He wasn't being serious!!!!!!


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Posted By: YoungBlood
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by billso billso wrote:

NO As you well know this is stupid/dangerous/illegal.


Originally posted by Spesh Spesh wrote:

Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?
 
He wasn't being serious!!!!!!


waiting for tony "bossman" a.s.s to answer will see if anybody dare call him clown    LOL


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Posted By: Spesh
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by billso billso wrote:

NO As you well know this is stupid/dangerous/illegal.


Originally posted by Spesh Spesh wrote:

Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?
 
He wasn't being serious!!!!!!


waiting for tony "bossman" a.s.s to answer will see if anybody dare call him clown    LOL
 
Are you deliberately being stupid?


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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 5:43pm
I think he just is stupid!

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Posted By: godathunder
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 10:07pm
cant remember ever having a problem with mine on a 13a plug although I usually only used to run at 4ohm/side
 
btw Im a sparky and have had to change quite a few sockets where people have drawn more than 13a through a bolt and welded the plug to the socket leaving some interesting if potentially fatal abstract art. whoever mentioned suitable breakers - 15/16a is the closest and is still only there to protect the installation, not the cable and appliance plugged into it. its more likely to be 30/32a and offer whatever youve bodged into the socket considerably less protection than youd like in an ideal world


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Posted By: Louder than loud
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by jonminns jonminns wrote:

I think he just is stupid!

LOL


Posted By: Grumpy
Date Posted: 19 October 2010 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by Spesh Spesh wrote:

Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?
 
He wasn't being serious!!!!!!

Least he didn’t suggest using a “Widow Maker”

 

Don’t see as many around these daysShocked



Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 20 October 2010 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by Grumpy Grumpy wrote:

Originally posted by Spesh Spesh wrote:

Originally posted by YoungBlood YoungBlood wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

6mm solid copper fuse also helps.


mr t would this be aright if distro have breakers and good mains wire ?
 
He wasn't being serious!!!!!!

Least he didn’t suggest using a “Widow Maker”

 

Don’t see as many around these daysShocked




sadly i saw one last week being used by a well known lighting company.....




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Posted By: cilla.scope
Date Posted: 20 October 2010 at 6:48pm
I have one, but its for an "almost" good reason.

We occasionally have extended powercuts .. not often,  every few years it goes off for a day or so ... at which point, I throw the main breaker, and plug the generator in the shed in with a 16A BS4343-to-13A to power the freezer and a few lights.


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Posted By: Grumpy
Date Posted: 20 October 2010 at 7:39pm
Its only half a Widow Maker thenWink


Posted By: audioman1
Date Posted: 22 October 2010 at 6:25pm
Is using 16A - 13A what you are referring to as 'Widow Maker'?
 
We have a couple of 16A - 4 way 13A with the trailing socket containing a 13A fuse. I don't see how this is dangerous considering it is protected by 13A. Anyone using equipment should know that a 13A bar should not exceed 13A anyway... These were bought from a lighting company with PAT certification...


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Posted By: Grumpy
Date Posted: 22 October 2010 at 8:09pm

A widow maker is usually two 13 amp plugs, with leads paralleled into a single 32 amp ceeform socket.



Posted By: mattd
Date Posted: 22 October 2010 at 10:13pm
if one plug is pulled out without the other it has live pins on it- v v dangerous.


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 22 October 2010 at 11:11pm
Quote We occasionally have extended powercuts .. not often, every few years it goes off for a day or so ... at which point, I throw the main breaker, and plug the generator in the shed in with a 16A BS4343-to-13A to power the freezer and a few lights.


It is a legal requirement (at least in UK) to notify your electricity supplier in writing before doing this.

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Posted By: audioman1
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 9:02am
Originally posted by Grumpy Grumpy wrote:

A widow maker is usually two 13 amp plugs, with leads paralleled into a single 32 amp ceeform socket.

ok, we definately don't use anything like that! Surely that is a suicide wish!
 
Do people seriously try to use contraptions like that?! Shocked


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Posted By: Grumpy
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 11:20am
Originally posted by audioman1 audioman1 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpy Grumpy wrote:

A widow maker is usually two 13 amp plugs, with leads paralleled into a single 32 amp ceeform socket.

ok, we definately don't use anything like that! Surely that is a suicide wish!
 
Do people seriously try to use contraptions like that?! Shocked

Yes and its usually used by people that should know better, a little knowledge can be very dangerous.



Posted By: audioman1
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Grumpy Grumpy wrote:

Originally posted by audioman1 audioman1 wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpy Grumpy wrote:

A widow maker is usually two 13 amp plugs, with leads paralleled into a single 32 amp ceeform socket.

ok, we definately don't use anything like that! Surely that is a suicide wish!
 
Do people seriously try to use contraptions like that?! Shocked

Yes and its usually used by people that should know better, a little knowledge can be very dangerous.

Scary!!! People like that should really not be working in the industry!
 
Sorry if anyone on here does, but I feel very strongly about electrical safety... i've seen the damage it can cause first hand!


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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by audioman1 audioman1 wrote:

We have a couple of 16A - 4 way 13A with the trailing socket containing a 13A fuse. I don't see how this is dangerous considering it is protected by 13A. Anyone using equipment should know that a 13A bar should not exceed 13A anyway... These were bought from a lighting company with PAT certification...



thats fine - a 16A to anything 13A must have a 13A fuse in line somewhere before the 13A rated fixture - and the cabling before the 13A fuse must be suitable for the incomer current (so 16A 2.5mm from ceeform to 4way, then the 13A 'steps down' protection into the 4way). Note that you cannot use a normal domestic unfused 4way with anything above 13A incomer!!

Also quite useful is the single duraplug style sockets where you can stick any old cable that fits with suitable ceeform to the cable size (ive squeezed 6mm into one on a 32A) and the single 13A socket will be protected by the plugs fuse. Handy for plugging in the kettle before the rest of the kits setup!


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Posted By: godathunder
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 10:07pm
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Posted By: cilla.scope
Date Posted: 23 October 2010 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

Quote We occasionally have extended powercuts .. not often, every few years it goes off for a day or so ... at which point, I throw the main breaker, and plug the generator in the shed in with a 16A BS4343-to-13A to power the freezer and a few lights.


It is a legal requirement (at least in UK) to notify your electricity supplier in writing before doing this.


I'll start doing that the moment they start notifying me in advance of powercuts  ...

Does the same apply if you just dangle it around on trailing sockets? or is it only when you dis the incomer and connect it to the house wiring you are supposed to tell 'em?

One of the hazards of living out in the sticks I suppose ... one day, I'll build a proper generator shed and get a lumpy old 2 pot lister or something ... get it wired in properly.


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