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Topic: MKH-230
Posted By: GekoMusic94
Subject: MKH-230
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 1:45pm
What do you think about this kick-bin?
http://hornplans.free.fr/mkh230.html - http://hornplans.free.fr/mkh230.html
Here is MKH230 (Red) (RCF MB12G401) vs HD215 (Black) (PD154):

It looks very goodWink!

Best Regards, Giacomo.


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Posted By: ras i
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 2:19pm

Interesting!!

Is there a 15" version?  That would be interesting too


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Posted By: GekoMusic94
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 3:04pm
No, there is only the 12" version.
But it's a good 12Wink!


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Posted By: vzummer
Date Posted: 31 December 2010 at 5:21pm
Any opinions? It's strange this kick/midbass horn utilizes driver with Qts=0.27 and BL=17 (using MB12G301 - only this data available on off. site). Though the driver is rated "mid-bass" on off. site.


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 4:18am
17 pretty decent Bl for a 12. Theres 2 of them. 0.27 qt's wont sound so hard and brings out the lows. combine this with 48g moving mass for good transients. should make a very nice sound.


Posted By: GUSTEK
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 4:53am
Iv'e been wanting to build 4 of these for a while now, it's very hard to find anyone with even photos of them in a stack, let alone build pics... Apparently they go high enough 250-300hz without honking, good to meet my 8'' Horns.. big cabs though, i'm leaning towards a simple 1 fold 15 that will play high enough 300 ish..

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Posted By: Roc
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 6:41am
i want to build them too..is there any replacement driver maybe at 16 ohm to fit?


Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 9:07am
Originally posted by GUSTEK GUSTEK wrote:

Apparently they go high enough 250-300hz without honking
This is appealing... I'd love to read opinions of this box but you're right it's damn huge!
If it were that good, surely we'd see them being built?


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 1:33pm
pics of its brother, MKB-230


The MKH-230 is a pretty new design, so in time I'm sure we'll see them popping up. I've ordered 4 x MB12G301 and plan to build MKB-230 singles.


Posted By: Saturnus
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:23pm

I'm not that impressed.

Please bear in mind that the plot has the MKH-230s fed with twice the power of the HD15s (4 ohm vs. 8 ohm).

Also mind that each RCF driver costs the same as a PD154 so we're also talking about a twice as expensive speaker.

Third. The HD15 plot is designed for 1/4 space use and the MKH-230 is appearantly for 1/2 space use. Separate things entirely.



Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by Saturnus Saturnus wrote:

I'm not that impressed.

Please bear in mind that the plot has the MKH-230s fed with twice the power of the HD15s (4 ohm vs. 8 ohm).

Also mind that each RCF driver costs the same as a PD154 so we're also talking about a twice as expensive speaker.

Third. The HD15 plot is designed for 1/4 space use and the MKH-230 is appearantly for 1/2 space use. Separate things entirely.



As you say, separate things entirely, who care's about the plot really.


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:43pm
sorry. What i mean is, to me the plot gives you an idea of what range the cab is potentially capable of playing. This is then useful for deciding whether or not a cab is suitable for your intended purpose.


Posted By: Saturnus
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 3:11pm
That's basically also what I use plots for but the sensitivity for the mkh-230 is exaggerated by 3dB due to not being fed the same power, so it will confuse many who just looks at it at a glance (or don't know any better). What it also tells me is that the HD15 will be better for especially outdoors use and when used in smaller stacks of just 1 or 2 per side whereas the mkh-230 will be better indoors or in larger stacks of 4-8 per side when used outside. One cannot neglect the price difference as well. A doubling in price is a concern in this day and age given the economic climate. 


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 3:26pm
True, valid point about the drivers. shopping around would defo be in order


Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 5:16pm
That sim is for a HD215,  not a single HD15, this design should work well for a ~80-90Hz high pass, i would expect it to be tighter and play higher and and louder than 2 x HD15.


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Posted By: Saturnus
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 5:29pm
Originally posted by Timebomb Timebomb wrote:

That sim is for a HD215,  not a single HD15, this design should work well for a ~80-90Hz high pass, i would expect it to be tighter and play higher and and louder than 2 x HD15.

Good catch. Didn't see that. :D

I think, I'd still prefer the HD15 but naturally I have not actually heard the mkh-230. I have heard the HD15 though. And for the use, I can't imagine anything being better. Remains to be seen (heard) though. :D



Posted By: SebP
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 5:11am
Have compared MKH230 vs two HD15, MKH make more level, and has more dynamic.










Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 11:49am
Originally posted by SebP SebP wrote:

Have compared MKH230 vs two HD15, MKH make more level, and has more dynamic.
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Posted By: GUSTEK
Date Posted: 31 July 2012 at 11:47am
Too me it seems natural that two 12'' drivers will produce tighter cleaner bass than a single 15''... 
Especially given this design, and the mouth entrance also crucial to raising hi freq for intended purpose...

Say take Mykey's horn for X-Tro , stick it on half MKB-230 fits bang on, dangle a high powered ribbon in the 12 section = nice 3 way, then build singles and stack on top for coupling and stacking arrangements... Tongue  getting exited, love those half MKB's!!!!! I wonder if the MKH goe's higher cos less bend? 

At SebP: how high the MKH sound good? Nice build love the JBL's on top! peace


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Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 01 January 2015 at 10:36pm
Seems like I confused the mkh230 with the mhb230
I like the mkb design better, sounds better, doesn't it?

I'm still in search for the mkb230 hornresp input, they need to be verified.
How does the sound compare to the sound of the Xtro?
The Xtro-kick is really smooth & nice, better than turbosound tse-115 if u ask me!



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Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 02 January 2015 at 10:56pm
I like these too!! 8 singles would be really handy for scaling and lifting! the recommended driver isn't crazy money either . 


Posted By: leodica
Date Posted: 18 February 2019 at 5:17pm
Hi everyone,

I'm currently searching for measurements plots of the mkh-230...anyone has compared the simulation curves that can be found with the plan with real measurements ?

Thanks !


Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 February 2019 at 6:43am
could do some measurements with 12fh520 vs 12hp1020 asap..
by ear they sound ok to me on kickfill using fh520s.. :)


Posted By: Jo bg
Date Posted: 24 February 2019 at 10:39am
Hi 
Always been curious about this design vs common bandpass  kicks, would really appreciate some measurements!
Thanks



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