New Rigs/ Rig Progress/ New Builds
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Topic: New Rigs/ Rig Progress/ New Builds
Posted By: andycw
Subject: New Rigs/ Rig Progress/ New Builds
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 8:57pm
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Going to start a new rig for the new year. What do people think of this..
 Bass Section - Both are RCF designs.
2x Single 15" W Bins
4x 15/18" Kick(?) Bins
Top/ Mid Section - Not sure on what I want at the minute..
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Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:08pm
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wrong way round ------------- F.T.S.S. |
Posted By: andycw
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:12pm
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Maybe, just a quick sketch up. |
Posted By: subbass
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:12pm
change the "kick bins" (which they arent) to ES18s and the subs (nope, those arent subs) to miniscoops 
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Posted By: subbass
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:13pm
| ps ive only ever heard w bins sound good once |
Posted By: andycw
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:15pm
| well, i already have 2 w bins, and two scoops. Just wanted to Upgrade - and do a better build |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:21pm
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you need to swap the scoops and the w bins. The scoops play sub better than the w bins and the w bins play kick better than the scoops. Otherwise its a pretty tidy idea. ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: andycw
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 9:24pm
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Cheers.
Any suggestions on Drivers? around £70-£100?
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Posted By: Sibulus
Date Posted: 11 December 2010 at 10:59pm
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Norfolk.
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Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 12 December 2010 at 5:03pm
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Who the hell would use w-bins on a new project?! ------------- 4 ohms is for wimps |
Posted By: andycw
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 9:07pm
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 9:19pm
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andycw wrote:Posted By: jonminns
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 10:49pm
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waste of wood ------------- 4 ohms is for wimps |
Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 11:51pm
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W-bins are out-dated kick-bins. ES18, USB, or maybe some kind of straight horn for kick?
------------- former Eurovision contestant |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 16 December 2010 at 12:34am
Outdated eh? Not heard the NCA RGW112 then? |
Posted By: Sibulus
Date Posted: 16 December 2010 at 11:15pm
Ever the pedant!  Pretty sure the op isn't going to build anything as fancy, probably something fane'esq from 1972 ------------- http://soundcloud.com/judas-beast |
Posted By: OriginalBreakzJunkie
Date Posted: 07 January 2011 at 3:03am
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think there rhino horns fella,, i know someone thats got 4 up for grabs right now if your intrested?
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Posted By: charlieb999
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 4:23am
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I'm further amused is this a site where "the blind lead the blind" oops meant to say "deaf" strange ideas not too clear is it common practice to use to different systems on the same bandwidth???? "Sound SYSTEM" should be self explainitory!!!! its not "Sound unsystematic" shudder to think what some of these rig sound like. seems to be all about just moving air it all seems a bit "pick'n'mix" by the looks of things LOL!!! or is it more like hit n miss!!! is there any real education here or just a lot of my "dick" is bigger than your "dick"? mind you came across a lot of this sort of nonsense when we had some fun dabbling with the free party scene back in the 90's oh different amps cabs horns & processing just a general mish mash of noise which I can very easily define HORRIBLE!!!! seems more concern is paid to its performance in regard to it looks like it sounds good.... oh "good" wrong term I have after many years in pro & domestic audio markets realised there are some really "deaf" people who have"Rigs" out there. it used to be quite bad before but the "rave" or "house" scene has much to answer for. like the guy I met that had a reggae sound told me the "holes" on his cabs were to quote "let the air in & out" I laughed so loud he got offended!!! so funny you people really no I mean it really sometimes the "Rig" guys have me creasing up |
Posted By: charlieb999
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 4:41am
| 4 ohms for wimps interesting conjecture.... but 2 ohms is for "real" men or just a fraction according to ohms law just a notch up from a virtual short circuit!!! its just as bad as designing drivers that can handle say a 1000w the point of that is.... when they have such reduced efficiency they need to be driven so hard to allow for the loss in sensitivity but then most are impressed by how many watts a driver will handle almost as bad as judging a systems performance by such as a "10K rig" "20K rig" its bullshit means nothing more than how much power it is wasting mostly I once back in 93 covered the whole of Hornimans Pleasance Notting hill carnival with less than 15k and it was creating vision distortion at 60 metres when I went into the crowd to check it out at ther behest of a crew member we had mr Kenny ken playing it still produced people who would ask "How many K is it?" totally irrelevant. think this industry need to pay more attention to science ie Physics and less to fashion or "The flavour of the month" so to sum up 2 ohms is only for urgent emergency make do not a load strategy!! |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 5:30am
Just out of curiosity, has the print on your number 1 key worn off? 
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Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 19 January 2011 at 5:14pm
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I agree with the irrelevance of "10K" 20K" etc. They even do that crap here in the states. As far as "designing drivers that can handle say a 1000w the point of that" Well your statement there lumps you into your other statement "sure there must be some on here with good knowledge and/or experience but just hope I find them" ... idiocy. Simple answer. Headroom. 2 drivers. Exact size. Exact efficiency. One 400 watts 91 db other 1000 watts 97 db. Which one are you going to choose? (taking cost out of the equation) Stop being such a douche bag. If you have something to contribute. Please do. Help educate the masses. Because that is the purpose of this site. If you purely just want to hate or be vindictive towards members or people within the industry please go elsewhere. |
Posted By: OllieMan
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 1:10pm
New member, already being pretty rude. Way to make friend and influence people! Example of someone who has all the "tech speak" but is not actually helpfull in any way! ------------- DOJO MEDIA. PA HIRE/ RECORDING STUDIOS/ BACKLINE HIRE. |
Posted By: torch1
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 2:22pm
Not sure if this thread has a 'point' anymore, but if it was originally for sketch ups of new projects then: |
Posted By: OllieMan
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 2:52pm
This looks nice, please do tell what is it? ------------- DOJO MEDIA. PA HIRE/ RECORDING STUDIOS/ BACKLINE HIRE. |
Posted By: torch1
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 2:58pm
| Our new system. Been nearly two years in the design/making. All but 4 bass cabs built. Picking up wood for the last four tomorrow so nearly there! |
Posted By: Strange Daze
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 3:27pm
| Bravo!! |
Posted By: dymondaudio
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 5:27pm
And for our new friendly forum member... I'm confident it will SOUND good too. ------------- If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid |
Posted By: AUDIO HABIT
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 6:23pm
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I love the way the finished product looks just like the sketchup,you guys are very talented at designing and building ,i friggin love it ------------- https://www.facebook.com/fxstageproductions |
Posted By: Danny A
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 6:41pm
| Can we see some photos please torch1? Looks the dogs danglies |
Posted By: AUDIO HABIT
Date Posted: 21 January 2011 at 8:35pm
http://forum.speakerplans.com/show-off-your-sound-systempart-2_topic38351_post476323.html?KW=torch1#476323 - http://forum.speakerplans.com/show-off-your-sound-systempart-2_topic38351_post476323.html?KW=torch1#476323 ------------- https://www.facebook.com/fxstageproductions |
Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 2:08am
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Man I SUCK at Sketchup. I try but things just never work out right. Specially trying to do things to specific dimensions. Or snapping. ... Nice job on both. |
Posted By: chopper27
Date Posted: 22 January 2011 at 9:40pm
EXODUS RAVE SYSTEM ,kicked ass all w-bins 
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Posted By: torch1
Date Posted: 24 January 2011 at 8:57am
haha, love it  Thanks for the comments guys. Will get some decent pics up once it's all finished and a build thread too. Shouldn't be too much longer. |
Posted By: will_i_am
Date Posted: 24 January 2011 at 11:27am
Punctuation is your friend. thank you for wasting a few minutes of my life.
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Posted By: will_i_am
Date Posted: 24 January 2011 at 11:27am
ouch, very nice indeed. when do we get a chance to hear it in action?
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Posted By: torch1
Date Posted: 24 January 2011 at 2:36pm
Soon hopefully. Last phase of the build now and we will be out as much as possible after that. Would be great to get some more feedback from people that know their onions too. Although not sure how close to Manchester we're going to get! |
Posted By: Randall
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 5:47am
after browsing the forum and seeing other members progression i decided hey, mine hasn't been that bad really. so here goes... this is as early as I dare go, at one point this was run off of a Sony HiFi, unfortunately I don't have any pictures of this, but yes. it was quite terrible.   these were the next developments/fails. it was a complete mish mash of 1/4" jack, speakon and bare pole behind that. I really with id got some better photos of just how bad it was.   i was quite proud at the time at the amount of kit id actually accumulated to run such a small system. used to take great pleasure in pulling it all out, setting it up, just to then have to pack it all away when the parents got home/neighbours complained/police turned up in a riot van (im not joking, they actually did! There was only three us there)  this is what I used to take to friends houses, BBQ's etc etc, although small and somewhat terrible. still provided many hours of fun for me and my very drunk friends  this is what id class as my first 'rig', at this point I think id just started coming on to SpeakerPlans regularly, i decided id start getting some matching cabs and do it properly. Unfortunately i still proceeded to buy two more C-Subs and yes, they are soundlab mid-tops :(  my next purchase was these two H/H concert horns, I paid for the whole concert system but the bastard never turned up with the rest, to say I was angry would be an understatement. But anyway, I look back now and wish I'd put the horns on the ground instead of in your face. But hey, we all learn.  this was the rack i used for the best part, as you can imagine they both had great fun running four c-subs, two folded horns, the soundlabs, the peavey, a cubo-12, and a compression driver for good measure. I cant complain though because it worked (all be it badly, but worked none the less) and the whole lot (minus flightrack) cost me less than £150, and that includes the patch panel and all the tails/connectors/various other cables.  I even managed to make progress with my flight cases too, I decided ammo cases were far too heavy as it is, so I went from the above, to the below. I was lucky enough to pick this up from an auction for £4! All it took was some MDF offcuts and a few spare castors and now she's a beauty.  Right, now for the progression bit...  this is what were moving on too, this is our first of four, with the other three waiting to be glued and screwed. We decided that the SMT was our best bet as they go down to 90hz and as we are putting them on top of six double 18" mini-scoops (which I should be able to upload pictures of tomorrow) they should meet nicely. Anyway, hope you enjoy the read as much as I've enjoyed building it. Any comments welcome (just bear in mind I'm still new to this and I'm only just 18) ------------- It just feels like it's never quite loud enough... |
Posted By: mstep77
Date Posted: 26 January 2012 at 7:39pm
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Great stuff Randall!!
Just think what it will look like when your 30................
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Posted By: Randall
Date Posted: 28 January 2012 at 5:30pm
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Cheers the scoops arrived Wednesday so I'll endeavour to get some pictures up. As I said, it's been great fun already and I'll certainly be happy to be doing this at 30! ------------- It just feels like it's never quite loud enough... |
Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 10:08am
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Randall some of those pics make me cringe! But then i cant talk...i have a few embarrassments which will be posted on here soon. The first speakers I built: 2x 10" scoops using mdf for some pioneer house speakers, then using 2 more of the same drivers, i built 2x 10" horns similar to HDs with port holes  I did include the internal crossovers from the original cabs so the scoops didn't sound all that bad, but the HDs were shocking!To top that all off, i built a single mid flare (50w guitar speaker) +1 peizo flare +2 peizo bullet tweeters (butchered from a crappy HF box i bought from fleebay). This was okay but only at low volume  All 5 cabs were painted in red and orange and powered by a pioneer house amp on bridge mono with all the cabs wired into the single output! After a while the amp fried and the speakers started to fall apart, the only speaker that still exists is one scoop that is still going strong! I have to get the pics from Facebook so it could take a while. I might start a Lucid System thread because some of the new gear will be here tomorrow and its always good to show progress!  |
Posted By: Randall
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 2:58am
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hahaha, im glad its not just me As poor as it all was, I got a lot of enjoyment from all this, decided it was best not to start new thread for our system yet. Still got a lot of work to do yet. Its getting there though, slowly but surely. ------------- It just feels like it's never quite loud enough... |