Show Me Your HF Horn Boxes
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Topic: Show Me Your HF Horn Boxes
Posted By: Biggus
Subject: Show Me Your HF Horn Boxes
Date Posted: 24 December 2010 at 1:58pm
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Hi, I currently run a tri amp system so my HF Horns are in separate cabs to my mids. Currently I have a bunch of pizeos sat on top of my mid cabs (please see pic below of top cabs), as you can probably guess I want to upgrade to comp drivers. As there aren’t really any HF Box designs out there, I believe this is due to the box design not mattering I’m looking for some inspiration, so if you don’t mind please show off your HF boxes.
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 24 December 2010 at 1:59pm
Biggus wrote:
As there aren’t really any HF Box designs out there, I believe this is due to the box design not mattering |
Um, no, basically. If anything, HF arraying and horn choice is one of the most important aspects of a system!
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Posted By: Biggus
Date Posted: 24 December 2010 at 2:03pm
toastyghost wrote:
Biggus wrote:
As there aren’t really any HF Box designs out there, I believe this is due to the box design not mattering |
Um, no, basically. If anything, HF arraying and horn choice is one of the most important aspects of a system! |
I can understand that horn choice is important but what about the physical box that houses the HF horn itself? (Newbie to this so please excuse my ignorance)
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Posted By: Electrikal
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 12:17am
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and how they are splayed/dispersion etc..
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Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 2:38am
Most of mine dont even have bottoms on the boxes as you can see in this photo.

As for does the shape of the box matter, no if its only 1 box a side, if you have more then it would help if they were the correct angle so that they splay nicely and dont interfere with each other but that all depends on what horn you have in the box so it all falls down to horn and comp driver selection.
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Posted By: cuivenion
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 2:54am
Not mine, but they look interesting. The seller builds them.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 8:13am
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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 9:28am
mykey- wrote:
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Interesting looking cab mykey
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 10:11am
+1
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Posted By: Steve_B
Date Posted: 29 October 2011 at 1:34pm
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Hi, I currently run a tri amp system so my HF Horns are in separate cabs to my
mids. |
I also currently run bi/tri amp systems (bi-amp don’t use
subs) but my horns are in the same cabinets to my mid-range.
As there aren’t really any HF Box designs out there,
I believe this is due to the box design not mattering… |
The actual cabinet volume doesn’t matter; it just holds the
horn in place. Where the horn is held does matter. Fitting the HF in the same
box as the mids has the advantage of keeping the spacing between the mids and
highs fixed and also reducing the number of boxes and cables needed at a gig.
With a decent compression driver you will probably just need
the one. With just the one set of
mid-tops each side I’d go for a 90 degree dispersion angle so get a horn with
that dispersion and will work down to 1.2KHz and cross-over at about 1.4 - 1.6KHz.
With a higher cross-over frequency use a 60 degree horn. If you want to keep
the separate cabinet make it match the mid cabinet so that you can line it up consistently.
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 08 November 2011 at 11:31am
Where can i see/hear one of these mid high cabs mykey?!?! I take it's one of your own?
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Posted By: Biggus
Date Posted: 09 November 2011 at 3:59pm
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@Strange daze - These cabs where covered in some material when I inherited them, I ripped the material off as it was mouldy/batted and then discovered I won't be able to paint them so ended up covering them in this swimming pool flooring material with old school aluminium edging! would of preferred to paint them but hey still don't look bad.
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Posted By: Strange Daze
Date Posted: 10 November 2011 at 10:37am
Nah I like it....and hey...at least you know that up to a point, they're water proof! :)
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Posted By: Wrek0ne
Date Posted: 10 November 2011 at 1:22pm
Posted By: boab
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 11:53am
Posted By: GekoMusic94
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 2:30pm
Nice box! Are they Ciare tweeters? If so, how does they sound?
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Posted By: boab
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 8:29pm
they sound sweet 6k and above. Its in stereo and I usually hang this
above the dance floor in the middle and have a quad stack. The bottom
eye bolt is for a disco ball. Im working with a disco guy who uses a
bozak mixer and grado stylus. Quality is the main factor hence an all
analogue signal path. You can just about make it out in the pic below.

boab
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Posted By: Laurin
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 9:06pm
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I use them to but I use Beyma CP22.
For my Disco party I use two pairs of tweeter arrays with JBL 075. Crossover is a Rane AX30 mixer is a Urei 1620.
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 10:34pm
one of my old boxes
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 11:07pm
2 screws in each horn, your ghetto tweeter!
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Posted By: boab
Date Posted: 16 November 2011 at 11:39pm
Laurin wrote:
I use them to but I use Beyma CP22.
For my Disco party I use two pairs of tweeter arrays with JBL 075. Crossover is a Rane AX30 mixer is a Urei 1620. |
Nice one! How manay 075's in each box? Do you tilt them or are they like the RLA design? Any pics? You gotta have a go of the Bozak, My client has a silver face 60's one and a late 70's or early 80's black face Much better than the Urei in my opinion. All the best Boab
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 17 November 2011 at 2:47pm
luton_soundman wrote:
2 screws in each horn, your ghetto tweeter!
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you know how we do 
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Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 12:17am
tweeter box wrote:
one of my old boxes
 | hi there tweeter box meaning no disrespect (its a nice looking hf box) onlt asking cus was gonna build something simailer
when configured that way dont you phase cancellations? not so the bullets the "horns"
Since higher frequencies offer a narrower dispersion, shoulnt there configured horizontally? how do there sound? but as we know theres nuff sounds configured like that....
nice one...
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 9:25am
Wow! what year was that Tony?
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 9:28am
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I bet that was hard work stacking those W bins that high, did you use a forklift?!?!
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 9:48am
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The Concert System and the Q system were designed more or less side by side. The Q system in the Photo was done just as a smaller alternative. The time for all of this was at the beginning of the '80's. Regarding weight, those bass cabs, which are 1x15's, weren't so bad, speakers were a little lighter, and we were a lot younger.
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Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 10:13am
tony, were those drums all full of paint?
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Posted By: AJordan
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 1:41pm
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Looks like drums of resin to me.
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Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 2:41pm
AJordan wrote:
Looks like drums of resin to me.
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does a drum of resin look different to a drum of paint? or a drum of diesel? or indeed a drum of cheap contaminated domestic italian wine?
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 2:42pm
biotec wrote:
AJordan wrote:
Looks like drums of resin to me. |
does a drum of resin look different to a drum of paint? or a drum of diesel? or indeed a drum of cheap contaminated domestic italian wine?
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yes the wine barrels would blow over in the wind as they would be empty 
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Posted By: AJordan
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 3:42pm
biotec wrote:
AJordan wrote:
Looks like drums of resin to me.
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does a drum of resin look different to a drum of paint? or a drum of diesel? or indeed a drum of cheap contaminated domestic italian wine?
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probably not.
was just thinking of liquid materials Tony would probably have used when manufacturing and I thought resin or paint. I used to work in a factory that also used lots of resin and paint and the resin always came in those sized drums, paint much smaller drums. Handling and decanting the two products was quite different.
Although maybe Tony worked next door to a cheap Italian wine importer.
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 4:16pm
boab wrote:

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nice rigging . Although i guess it weights little, does the threaded rod go all the way through, or is it independant top and bottom. Should really replace the nylon chord with steel chain/cable and shackles wouldnt fancy a mirrorball to the head!
Lovely looking finish on the box though, wonder how much difference countersinking the driver flange into the baffle would make to fully minimise diffraction?
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 7:36pm
I can confirm they were polyester resin drums. When empty, we used them to transport our off cuts to a farm to be burnt.
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Posted By: noiseboy
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 8:12pm
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Very sexy. If they sound as good as they look. Top Notch!
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Posted By: boab
Date Posted: 13 January 2012 at 9:44pm
mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:
boab wrote:

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nice rigging . Although i guess it weights little, does the threaded rod go all the way through, or is it independant top and bottom. Should really replace the nylon chord with steel chain/cable and shackles wouldnt fancy a mirrorball to the head!
Hawk-eye! As you can probably guess it was just strung up in the Studio/testing area for a quick listen/ photo in reality it is put up with steel wire + 2nd safety on M8 welded eyebolts and it weighs a grand total of weight for it.... 6.3 Kg ex mirror ball
Lovely looking finish on the box though, wonder how much difference countersinking the driver flange into the baffle would make to fully minimise diffraction?
I usually mount them flush for hifi cabs, but when there is a club full of people and 4 stacks of B&C 1" HF all around I would be suprised if you heard the difference. Its really just to pull the image up a bit and give it a heightened sound. I usually set it so that if you can hear it its too loud. It should just lift things a bit.
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 12:13am
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Those barrels are full of bodies of individuals who reversed engineered Tony's cabs and posted the plans online.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 12:33am
noiseboy wrote:
mykey- wrote:
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Very sexy. If they sound as good as they look. Top Notch!
| thanks dude
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Posted By: noiseboy
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 2:14am
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Good for high fidelity outdoor then? can I hire some to try?
No hurry, got some outdoor festival stuff to do late summer.
I'll pm you.
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Posted By: AJordan
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 3:40am
TONY.A.S.S. wrote:
I can confirm they were polyester resin drums. When empty, we used them to transport our off cuts to a farm to be burnt. |
Yeh, they do make good incinerators dont they (bit naughty but they do end up nice and clean)
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 11:13am
The ply off-cuts were never burnt in them, the barrels were used only to transport the ply down to the farm. We used to wait until twelve were full and them give them a ring. They used to turn up with their truck and cart them off and leave us twelve empty ones. The wood went into a big Furnace and it heated all the systems on the farm.
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Posted By: AJordan
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 11:41am
oops, just us then Sounds like a good system. A farmer near us used to have a furnace attached to his house, every couple of days he would shove a straw bale in and it had some sort of air control system to control the burning and it ran all his heating.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 11:52am
I had a huge furnace on the farm I had my workshop on, it looked like the front of an old train. It had a big old round door on the front, just took too much fuel, couldn't keep up with it. In the end we made the chamber smaller by adding lots of bricks so less wood was needed. It could be snowing outside and when the furnace was going full blast we would be topless and sweating
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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 8:29pm
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I'm using these at the moment above some MT102 mid sections, loaded with a cerwin vega m-162 2" (interestingly, these also have a d&b audiotechnik badge on the back) and a fane cd-130 1" which is passively crossed at 6khz.
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 15 January 2012 at 1:31am
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R2U horn.
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Posted By: RosscoPico
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 2:35pm
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Midrange horns (6.5" loaded) under construction;

Finished cabinets with HF top boxes (under UV light);
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 29 January 2012 at 8:57pm
Posted By: phildat
Date Posted: 29 January 2012 at 9:20pm
nice work Bee. Im assuming you made them. Whats the specs on them, internally crossed or bi amped?
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 29 January 2012 at 9:28pm
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These have 1 crossover for the 1" comps and 1 each for the buttets, all beyma crossovers, beyma bullets and celestion drivers. They sound very crisp, the 1" are crossed at 2khz and the bullets at 4khz. These are one off for a cliant....
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 30 January 2012 at 8:56am
RosscoPico wrote:
Midrange horns (6.5" loaded) under construction;

Finished cabinets with HF top boxes (under UV light);
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Good looking cabs 
How low do the 6.5" horns go?
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 31 January 2012 at 11:56pm
bee wrote:
These have 1 crossover for the 1" comps and 1 each for the buttets, all beyma crossovers, beyma bullets and celestion drivers. They sound very crisp, the 1" are crossed at 2khz and the bullets at 4khz. These are one off for a cliant.... |
Looking good!
MDF or Ply Bee?
I was asking someone recently about two 1'' comps side by side and they were saying up and over would be better!
Reckong any truth in that or think they were just assuming? as I've never personally tried it!
Or does it depend on the distance in spacing between the two?
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 01 February 2012 at 6:58pm
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mdf.... if they are two far apart yes it can give you issues, i tested these extensively and found them to sound great...... i would be more concerned in the distance between both boxes..... this may cause issues if they are too close together.....
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 1:57pm
bee wrote:
mdf.... if they are two far apart yes it can give you issues, i tested these extensively and found them to sound great...... i would be more concerned in the distance between both boxes..... this may cause issues if they are too close together..... |
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 02 February 2012 at 2:22pm
Just a bit about dispersion and coupling. For a 6.5" speaker, the horn is fairly long, nothing wrong with that of course, but before you start worrying about coupling, Take a look at the low x/o point. If the frequency's wave length is shorter than your horn length, you will have very little problems. If the length is longer than the horn you will get some kind of coupling going on in varying degrees, depending on how much frequency is diffracting around the sides. Whole wave pulses formed within the dimension of a horn seem to behave them selves after leaving the horn mouth.
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:09pm
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some new hf boxes I built this week.... http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1544_zpsa8e22a45.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1545_zps9f9851e1.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1546_zpsb3bf3899.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1579_zpsc8d67498.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1595_zps7e4e6c29.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s280.photobucket.com/user/djbenwells/media/IMG_1593_zps157139e5.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:17pm
Nice Ben, they look very loud in blue.
Are all the speakons to support some kind of special linking scheme? Coaxial drivers with a 2x speakon for each coil?
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:19pm
bms 2" coaxil's in and outs for the 2" and 1".....
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:22pm
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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:23pm
No 4 core wires then?
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:27pm
client wanted to run them this way.....
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Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 7:47pm
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Was a prototype, but was happy with the sound, so another 3 are being built
Finished soon! 
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 8:15pm
sinia nice job....
is it a studio45 build....
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Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 8:44pm
It is indeed a Studio45 build
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Posted By: oldskool
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 8:48pm
Sinai, what are those bullets you have there?
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Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 9:01pm
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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 10:39pm
RosscoPico wrote:
| bit late to ask... what horn is the HF on? Only one I've seen that shape is the Eminence BH410 designed for bass guitar (centred in a quad 10" box)... if so, how does it sound and what's the dispersion like?
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 3:03am
oldskool thay sound well sweat too, dont let the price put yu off, best bullet out there for the price!!!
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Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 4:09am
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Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 10:27am
  One our many mid-hi paks these run 450Hz - 3.5KHz 3.5KHz - 18kHZ good for delays 50v x 90h good low Q wide dispersion these are shortly to be test loaded with BMS drivers hold ya ears!!!
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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:18am
A bullet on a horn? What new madness is this?
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Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:40am
yep a complete waste of both!!!
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:40am
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haha was gonna say the same thing 45 , whats all that about
trying to create a wider dispersion 
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:49am
studio45 wrote:
A bullet on a horn? What new madness is this? |
Agreed. The standard jbl 2402,and all its modern copies have a 40* conical dispersion pattern,why would you stick that on the end of a horn? 
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Posted By: oldskool
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 12:10pm
Dub Specialist Sound wrote:
oldskool thay sound well sweat too, dont let the price put yu off, best bullet out there for the price!!! | I was surprised at how cheap they seem to be. Need some extra sparkle on an 8 box JBL rig with two inch comps, would be great if these were good enough.
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Posted By: oldskool
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 12:20pm
jbl_man wrote:
studio45 wrote:
A bullet on a horn? What new madness is this? |
Agreed. The standard jbl 2402,and all its modern copies have a 40* conical dispersion pattern,why would you stick that on the end of a horn? 
| aren't those pyramid bullets 7 inches across to start with? Mind you they have an terribly peaky response, maybe it helps to smooth it out?
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 12:21pm
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seriously bro you need to here them, prob suprise ya...there not cheap sounding harse n nasty , there quite smooth and the sensitivity is there as well, i got jbl 2402's aswell but i cannot justify the money for the diaghams, also ent got that sort of money,
many have said over the forum that thay are well pleased and suprised with the sound of them...its a bit like some budget bass amps and some have highly impressed some peeps on Sub!
not allways something is cheap is crap...thay are no way in the leauge of crappy skytec, citronic, soundlab, thay do sound nice crisp n clear far superior than them, bcus thay not high 'Name Brand' dont watch the snobbery, let yu ears tell ya
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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 1:57pm
The MNC's are an OK driver, do not expect 110db/1w/1m from them like a 2402 though - more like 98dB - they will require most horns to be padded down 9-12dB if they are crossed over passively above.
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 2:44pm
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true not 110db as 2402 , but imho opinon no way its 98dB on a/b with ears on a fane 250 thay slighty more sensitive..and on paper the fanes are 105dB
would be nice if someone could actually do a proppa test/measure on them...
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Posted By: junglemonkey
Date Posted: 10 January 2014 at 3:29pm
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 11 January 2014 at 3:38am
It varies it is a modular system it uses a 12 on a horn 100/125 - 500Hz which can be used it vertical co-linears. It is only for small wide dispersion arrays work great flown over Dancefloors which is the primary function for this design, and can be "Skele" too, as well as come in Colours.
It will shortly be replaced by a new non-modular "In-line Array" 3way Enclosure. Higher performance in a smaller package easier to array n fly
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Posted By: Phil B
Date Posted: 14 January 2014 at 2:30am
RCF ND 2530 T3 1.4" with 4 x Celestion TF 0410MR 4"s ...early version adjusting port entry ...!

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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 14 January 2014 at 1:47pm
Nice work Phil!
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Posted By: Venny14
Date Posted: 05 February 2014 at 11:53pm
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Metal Celestion horns with Beyma 1" bolt ons.
Thinking about building some little bullet box's to sit on top.
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Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 12:10am
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Posted By: Rengade Project
Date Posted: 06 February 2014 at 2:11am
Funny razorray
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Posted By: AvLee
Date Posted: 07 February 2014 at 9:56pm
Anyone for some Joobly?
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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 12:44am
Posted By: RosscoPico
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 11:04am
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razorray wrote:
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When can we get to hear this, are there any demo opportunities coming up?!
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 11:58am
razorray wrote:
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 12:55pm
^
Very funny photo that.
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 4:34pm
Box must have cost 10 times as much as the tweeter.
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Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 6:19pm
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razorray wrote:
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This is something I have been working on for the last 5 years and hopefully I will have the prototype ready for testing by summer this year. I will have a few samples to give Mykey and Tony by Christmas this year hopefully.
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 6:29pm
Will it be a powered box or just passive?
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Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 6:34pm
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Tony.. With this much power it must be passive.. Come on.. (ps) the prototype might look slightly different. I realized I need some 25mm bracing on the front and back and I might add some more depth to the box so it will throw more.
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 6:44pm
One more thing, will there be a flying version? and I don't one that can be launched out of a Window.
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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 7:13pm
Don't really have any good pics at the moment, but they are BMS 4590 8/8 on JBL 2380A horns. Protective bulbs on the back for quick accessibility. Work a Charm and work great with the 212's. (the 212's are still a work in progress) http://s195.photobucket.com/user/teunvanderveeken/media/internals_zpse9f9df86.png.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s195.photobucket.com/user/teunvanderveeken/media/IMG_0973_zpsf3465909.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s195.photobucket.com/user/teunvanderveeken/media/IMG_0442_zps6b2a6f12.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 8:16pm
Nice!
Is that foam in the throat?
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Posted By: Venny14
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 8:59pm
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What trailing cable did you use for making the Speakon loom?
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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 08 February 2014 at 10:14pm
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That made I laugh that did, fair doos... 
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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 2:03pm
@Timebomb, yes that is a piece of foam. I made the picture when i was cleaning the workshop/storage as it has gotten very dusty from the sanding of some cabs. The foam is there to keep out dust .
the speakon loom is a 8x2.5 tasker cable from NL8 to a split box. The split box is set up channels like this : A, A, B, B, C, D, A+B, C+D where A,B,C,D denote the channels from the amps. It lets me use 4 different channels or either use 2 biamped cabs, such as the MH212 and the HF horn boxes that house the 4590's. The tails from the splitbox to the cabs are PVC jackets 4x2.5. I also have 2 separate split boxes with an NL8 chassis in, instead of a fixed cable.
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Posted By: Biggus
Date Posted: 18 December 2014 at 10:04am
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So I started this post four years ago, only just got round to getting the top boxes done but here they are.
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