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Topic: Can you guess what it is?
Posted By: service dept Steve
Subject: Can you guess what it is?
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 10:56am
It looks like it will be a slow weekend because the second it tips down laying under the racer will be no fun. So here is a little something to keep us amused. (or not)
Here is an interesting item in for repair.
The cardboard boxes will give an idea of scale, Some clues:  remember I service a lot of vintage stuff as well as all the usual suspects, so this is not a modern item. The two silver boxes make up the one unit. It was made just a couple miles or so from my workshop which is in SW17.




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Posted By: Rico
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 3:35pm
tube amps?


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 4:13pm
Good guess, but not correct.
The two boxes make up the "item"


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Posted By: slaz
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 8:44pm
Dunno _what_ ,  but it looks a bit military .... air force ? Navy ?




Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 8:49pm
Projector and speakers for projector? 16mm?


Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 9:47pm
Radio equipment?

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It just is.


Posted By: lgosdset
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 5:22am
portable 8track tape machine and controller/mixer?


Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 6:14pm
Is it a Vortexion? A ferrograph perhaps? 

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 6:48pm
not ferrograph i think, ive owned most of the models over the years , but they do look a bit vortexion like


Posted By: nomis
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 6:56pm
bbc ?

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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by Nitz V1505 Nitz V1505 wrote:

Is it a Vortexion? A ferrograph perhaps? 


Like this one? Well worked out, Vortexian had their showroom on Wimbledon broadway, still not correct though, The item in question was made in Wandsworth. This vortexian in the picture is in my collection but is in a vinyl covered box and does have a ferrograph transport.




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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by nomis nomis wrote:

bbc ?


The BBC did use a lot of these apparently, but not a BBC product.

More Vortexion:




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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 07 February 2011 at 6:56am
Here goes a stab in the dark, EMI mixer? Wild guess really as most equipment from the time had that grey paint!!!!! The bottom unit I assume is the psu.
EDIT- Just remembered EMI are based in Hayes.Embarrassed

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 4:58pm
Getting warmer, couple more shots (with nameplates disguised)






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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 6:29pm
One of Ron Grainers EMF radiation heat pumps.
 
Especially usefull with the bottle on the left of pic 2.


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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 6:59pm
No, Not a heat pump, It is full of valves, but only babies.
Well spotted but the Spanish red is holding the beer fridge door shut.


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Posted By: slaz
Date Posted: 08 February 2011 at 11:29pm
Originally posted by service dept Steve service dept Steve wrote:

Originally posted by Nitz V1505 Nitz V1505 wrote:

Is it a Vortexion? A ferrograph perhaps? 


Like this one? Well worked out, Vortexian had their showroom on Wimbledon broadway, still not correct though, The item in question was made in Wandsworth. This vortexian in the picture is in my collection but is in a vinyl covered box and does have a ferrograph transport.




Do you remember Brenell ? Based somewhere down Ricmond I think (BICBW)

My connection is .... many moons ago (over 30 years) I briefly worked alongside Frank ***** (forgott his surname now) .... he was one of the guys who started Brenell. He was over 70 _then_ .... late 70's - when I did a brief stnit on Brenell 1" 8-track machines - at the Liverpool Rd N1 premises - when Brenell had gotten gobbled up by Allen & Heath.


Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by slaz slaz wrote:

 - when I did a brief stint on Brenell 1" 8-track machines - at the Liverpool Rd N1 premises - when Brenell had gotten gobbled up by Allen & Heath.
Were you working with Martin, Ted, Dave W et al, then?


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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.


Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 9:59am
Last try ( 3 strikes and your out!!!), Marconi. That mixer is rare as rocking horse sh*t.

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 4:13pm
Ready!



Steady!





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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 5:28pm
Thats too easy now dude;
 

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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 10 February 2011 at 6:36pm
Model number? Year?

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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 7:09am
Originally posted by Nitz V1505 Nitz V1505 wrote:

Last try ( 3 strikes and your out!!!), Marconi. That mixer is rare as rocking horse sh*t.
    I know I said it was my last answerEmbarrassed,but blank the EMI answer!!!!!!
The machine is a Leevers Rich Wink.Series E perhaps? Will try to find exact model!!!!!


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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 10:55am
CORRECT!!

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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 12:05pm
Well done! Now go eat the biscuits and drink the vino..Beer

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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:11pm
I only cottoned on when I looked at the internals, I couldnt make out the writing on the label on my phone. Ive only just read it !!!!!!  I can sleep now after spending 6 days awake like a zombie trying to figure that out!!!!!!!

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 5:53pm
Very well done, you know your vintage tape machines.
I will be spending the weekend rebuilding my pc at home after yet another HDD wipeout after which I will get some more photos of the work up.
I have the capstan motor assembly on the bench at the moment, 4kg squirrel cage motor nearly a foot tall. I can't imagine why they don't make them like they used to.
There are a couple of leaky caps (not surprising as it was built in 1961) and a couple of the cables will need reterminating, having started to perish but will be back in use in a few weeks.

The Vortexian is a worker and have never had to do anything to it unlike my "day to day" machine, a Tascam X1000R which is always in bits.

The project after that is a Pye broadcast mixer which arrived here in several cardboard boxes.





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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 6:25pm
Thanks Steve. Good to see the tape machine with the lid off. They dont build em like that any more. I love hi fi and studio gear from the 50/60's, its just that no nonsense built like a tank attitude. My garrard 301 is a great example of how machines from that era can stand the test of time and still sound better than so called state of the art equipment.

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 6:38pm
That's my pleasure, Glad you enjoyed that.

I should say thanks to tweeterbox who had seen it on the bench but didn't give the game away.

Don't get me started on record players. I recently replaced my SL1200 with a Thorens TD105, not a patch on your Garrard though.
But a friend of mine gave me two "kids" record players from the 60's a couple of years back, they are in a small portable cabinet about 12 x 8, little speaker inside. They need photographing. The ultimate SL1200 slayer!


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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 7:50pm

Ive also got a 401 which needs a plinth and a 4hf in a solid mango wood plinth which I carved out. Played out once in Southall community and sound checked the 301/3009 mkI alongside a 1210mkII . The bass had an extra octave and the silence when flipping tunes was impressive. The scoops that we had hooked up loved the 301 and the mids and tops were crystal. Feedback was also non existent no matter how hard we cranked it. In comparrison the 1210 was like pulling a curtain infront of the stack!!!!!



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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 10:56pm
Here is a link to a useful (???) vintage recorders site showing the said E-series (stereo only here):
http://www.vintagerecorders.co.uk/VR_Search_Page.asp?Vpp=10&Page=0&Stype=Leeversrich&indv=0&indm=0 - http://www.vintagerecorders.co.uk/VR_Search_Page.asp?Vpp=10&Page=0&Stype=Leeversrich&indv=0&indm=0


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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.


Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 12 February 2011 at 4:58am
Nice one!!!!!Thumbs Up   plenty of old school machines there.

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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....


Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 12 February 2011 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by Nitz V1505 Nitz V1505 wrote:

Ive also got a 401 which needs a plinth and a 4hf in a solid mango wood plinth which I carved out. Played out once in Southall community and sound checked the 301/3009 mkI alongside a 1210mkII . The bass had an extra octave and the silence when flipping tunes was impressive. The scoops that we had hooked up loved the 301 and the mids and tops were crystal. Feedback was also non existent no matter how hard we cranked it. In comparrison the 1210 was like pulling a curtain infront of the stack!!!!!

I'll give your 401 a run for its money - Linn LP12, with SME 3009 S2 improved arm. Even with a crappy dj ortofon on it, tracks like stink, and sounds awesome.

It is commonly cited that you can hear the bearing on a SL1210.....



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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 12 February 2011 at 6:47pm

IMO a 401 in the right plinth with SME 3009 s2 will sound better. The thing is its what sounds better to you thats the important thing. The LP12 is a great deck and I remember checking one out on a full Keltik set up. Sounded nice. However it being a belt drive deck doesnt do it for me, the idler drive system is more my thing. Technics SL's are fine decks for their application but the sound could be better,this is because of the tonearm .



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LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER
& THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING.....



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