ES18BPH Driver sims
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Topic: ES18BPH Driver sims
Posted By: jerronimo
Subject: ES18BPH Driver sims
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:47pm
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Inputscreen RCF LF18G401:  |
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:48pm
RCF LF18G401 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:50pm
RCF LF18N401 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:51pm
PD 186 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:52pm
PD18BR40 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:57pm
PD1850 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:58pm
Void V18-1000 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:59pm
Omega pro 18-A SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 2:01pm
Fane Colossus 18XB SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 2:02pm
BMS 18S430v2 SPL plot:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 2:07pm
BMS 18N830v2 SPL plot:
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 2:33pm
| fane 18b should sim better than the xb shouldm't it? |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 2:41pm
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Peavey lowrider 18 is a good one for this. ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 4:25pm
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That Omega pro aint bad ------------- It just is. |
Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 11 February 2011 at 6:35pm
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Fane 18B is a 400 watt driver I believe? high sensitivity but can't take alot of power.
I noticed that alot of the fane drivers have a high sensitivity of 99dB, which is ofcourse good but low xmax as a tradeoff.
Yes the omega pro surprised me aswell, nice bump around 100hz and reasonably flat with very different T/S parameters then the rest.
The RCF LF18G401 is another driver that sims pretty well, 98dB sensitivity and xmax of 8,5mm.
Should be interesting.
PD186 also pretty good, and very good halfspace efficiency.
The heavy high power ''beasts'' like the pd1850 and void v18-1000 aren't very well suited for this design, and their extreme powerhandling seems wasted.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 February 2011 at 5:27am
| the fane XB drivers are well suited to reflex boxes, and the B ones to horns.. don't mind the wattage.. |
Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 11:37am
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Yes but reflex speakers can work very well in hornloaded cabs.
Look at the PD186, lot´s of people on here use them in reflex and in horn designs.
Same go´s for the RCF LF18N401, usable in reflex, horn and bandpass.
There is no perfect speaker for each D.I.Y design, but some work better then others.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 2:20pm
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not really correct in saying that, you can't put a reflex driver in a long horn without asking for trouble, and this is a BPH (short horn), low EBP drivers will give a more warm natural sound, so yes drivers close to BR look for a driver with a EBP around the 90's, drivers with a low Fs have a look at the FTR18-4080FD celestion if you're using them solely has a kick cab, then stick a driver that has a EBP of over 130 (hammer on a door sound)  ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 2:26pm
V1000 and the 1850 will knock your head off and annoy you in a BPH, bit like sitting in a dentist chair for 2 hours, you know that's going to piss you off I remember listening to the Mach Balister cabs years ago, tiny BPH cab, 1850 loaded, super loud....and one notey....is that what you want? 186 would be cool, I think someone even mentioned on here some time ago the 184, I haven't seen the specs for tge 184, so don't quote me on that ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
jerronimo wrote:Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:31pm
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Oke interesting reading guys, as you can see I have still some things to learn.
Ofcourse power isn't everything, I know that.
But a 400 watt 99dB driver can't reach the same high levels of spl than let's say a 800 watt 99dB driver.
Faital pro makes some nice drivers with high sensitivity, low weight and high powerhandling but they are somewhat expensive.
Maybe it's a case of ''who has the biggest'' nowadays as many manufacturers are competing to produce drivers with the highest powerhandling like the B&C 18SW115 and 18sound 18NLW9000 which need massive amounts of amplifierpower.
The RCF LF18G401 has a ebp of 110 and Fs is 33, maybe the best of both worlds?
I don't know, maybe I should try them.
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:35pm
i was just suggesting that seeing as you were simming a load of drivers.. you might get a decent result from the 18b... obviously you don't have to do it... 
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:53pm
Lol u were reading my mind just simmed it, has a massive BL of 35,8 and a ebp of 122,9
P.audio SD18:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:55pm
Oops you meant the fane...
Somewhat smoother responce than the original p.audio SD18.
Fane colossus 18B:
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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:59pm
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Strange after simming lots of drivers, you can see there is realy not much between them in terms op spl output. The emminence kappa, pd186 and pd18br40 are the only one's that have a somewhat different plot.
Can someone evaluate some of my sims, maybe I am doing someting wrong here...
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Posted By: Avatron
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 6:12pm
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Hi! A sim is not more necessary! thx Avatron |
Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 24 February 2014 at 7:28pm
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So have many people gone down the pd186 road with these? Is the newer 186 Much of a different driver that it would preform allot different to the results above .
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Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 24 February 2014 at 7:33pm
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i would not use a driver with qts of 0,52 in a kickbin^^ :D |
Posted By: ultramars10
Date Posted: 05 April 2022 at 3:54pm
All the pictures of the responses with the different drivers are gone  can somebody maybe send me a version of this thread they have saved on their hard drive, with the pictures? pretty please  ------------- "If it sounds right, it's right" (Joe Meek) |
Posted By: ardeliajozwiak
Date Posted: 30 June 2022 at 10:38am
A very interesting topic for me, unfortunately the photos are gone 
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Posted By: Xoc1
Date Posted: 30 June 2022 at 7:36pm
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https://forum.speakerplans.com/es-18-bph-in-hornresp_topic97187.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.speakerplans.com/es-18-bph-in-hornresp_topic97187.html A google search linked to this thread with a sim
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