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Topic: ES15BPH ?
Posted By: neilpoints
Subject: ES15BPH ?
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 12:09am
Has anyone come up with a 15" version they want to share ?

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former Eurovision contestant



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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 3:04pm
Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available.

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Posted By: eltron
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by djeddie djeddie wrote:

Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available.

...and with a selection of tried and tested solutions for the flare (curved section) with drawings and all, on this exact forum. be it a ply-curve, bendy mdf, five, three, or two part flare. actually i do not remember seeing drawings for a two-part flare, but i'm quite sure i've see photos of one. TDA-audio's maybe?


Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 10:52pm
"Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available."

I love Rog's HD15, but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.

HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.



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Posted By: Mautopsy
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:13pm
Check out the EM15


Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Mautopsy Mautopsy wrote:

Check out the EM15
whats the EM15????


Posted By: smithshorn
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:47pm
http://hornplans.free.fr/em15.html - http://hornplans.free.fr/em15.html


Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 12:10am
I personally think the 250Hz on the EM15 is being very optimistic! With a lighter cone, maybe...

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Chas n Dave : it's like Drum and Bass but with beards.             E=mc² ±3dB


Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 12:13am
I'm sorry, Smithshorn, but a 15" driver will fall straight through that 380mm hole in your EM15 baffle. It doesn't make sense.

I've got another nice plan here which someone has shared with me. The only problem is that some of the dimensions seem wrong. I'm going to check them all out and post the plan ASAP.


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former Eurovision contestant


Posted By: smithshorn
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 3:07pm
It's not "my" plan. It's simply a design I've had in my files. As is true with ANY design that isn't your own, double check EVERYTHING, BEFORE building. I haven't personally built these so didn't modify the plans as posted elsewhere, or I would have corrected the flaw you noted. I will change that dimension on my copy of the plans. Good Eye! Thanks for pointing that out to everyone! Again, don't take anything for granted. 


Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 9:42pm
sorry Smithshorn, I was a bit rude about that plan.
I like this one though, it's like a ES18BPH but 15", maybe a Turbosound design.



and with this modification, it should play higher:





I'm going to change the access-panel to the conventional place for a HD, and fit the drivers from that side of the baffle, which will correct the volumes after the modification.

edit: dimensions on the 2nd picture are for ES18, not this plan.


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former Eurovision contestant


Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 4:58pm
Was there any follow ups to this design or staipiers modded hd?
I'm looking for a compact forward firing 15" kick bin to sit above my Lab horns.


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by neilpoints neilpoints wrote:

but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.

HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.



I owned 6x HD15s for approximately 2x weeks.

HD15 is a cut down version of the TSE 115H, cut down in size and performance.

TSE 115 will do 60-200hz, with right driver, at high SPL, fairly easily.

Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.


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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 6:43pm
what would you say is right driver for the tse?


Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 8:31pm
Not a fan of hd's either. That's why looking for a decent 15" compact kick bin design...one that's been built and tested.


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by cravings cravings wrote:

what would you say is right driver for the tse?


PD 1550


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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".


Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 9:01am
check this out Wink

http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-bph238_topic60521.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-bph238_topic60521.html


Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 12:02pm
Excellent! well done that man! Just need to convince someone to sell/build me some now...lol


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 12:25pm
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/
from nomis23 on here.

http://forum.speakerplans.com/15-usb_topic53007.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/15-usb_topic53007.html
also stuff in here

enjoy



Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:



Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.

Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH? Confused


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 9:23pm
i have pd154s in mine.. haven't had the chance to compare with pd1550. i do remember really really liking the fane colossus 15b in them though.


Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 11:11pm
I came up with this:

also using triangular bits in the corners much like this:


Designed for PD156. I'll try to find the dimensions, they're on a bit of paper somewhere. It plays from 75 to 200, sounds nice, models nice in Hornresp. I haven't heard a whole stack of them yet, just loaded one up, made a few for a mate.


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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 July 2012 at 12:33am
Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:



Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.

Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH? Confused


Few people have drawn up ES15BPH, and built them.

Don't expect to see the plans on here though.


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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".


Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 26 July 2012 at 6:58am
Originally posted by neilpoints neilpoints wrote:

"Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available."

I love Rog's HD15, but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.

HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.



Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 11:42am
Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:



Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.

Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH? Confused


Few people have drawn up ES15BPH, and built them.

Don't expect to see the plans on here though.

Any chance anyone can PM me a link to these plans?Embarrassed


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 11:49am
Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:



Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.

Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH? Confused


Few people have drawn up ES15BPH, and built them.

Don't expect to see the plans on here though.

Any chance anyone can PM me a link to these plans?Embarrassed


TBH,  I think the TSE 115 plan would sound better.


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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 12:48pm
if you didn't already see this Tom

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/
from nomis23 on here.

Driver is PD156


Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 12:53pm
Originally posted by Keen Keen wrote:

if you didn't already see this Tom

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/
from nomis23 on here.

Driver is PD156

ThanksEmbarrassed

where it says internal dimension 50cm, is that the width of the internal panels? (so the cab would be 500mm wide plus 32mm for the side panels?)

or the overall width including the side panels?


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 1:05pm
yeah wondered this too. I read it as 500mm internal panels with overall width @ 536.

here's the thread it came from too

http://forum.speakerplans.com/es15-bph_topic27238_page2.html


Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Keen Keen wrote:

yeah wondered this too. I read it as 500mm internal panels with overall width @ 536.

here's the thread it came from too

http://forum.speakerplans.com/es15-bph_topic27238_page2.html

yeh my mistake 36mm LOL


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:47pm
yeah nice one...

dilwang Wink


Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 10:53am


Posted By: anjmoor
Date Posted: 28 August 2012 at 6:44pm
Hi all been lurking here for a while, I have dry built an ES-15 cab and modded it to sit on a cubo 15, did a sound test with all the sealed chamber joints taped and must say that I was quite satisfied so far with what i was hearing, these def dont go as high as an 18 but I think I had them running up to 160 before they started honking. great punch from them tho.


Posted By: mousaka
Date Posted: 01 November 2015 at 5:47am
I have 4 X PD154 that i had mounted in hd15, only I don't like the sound of hd15
i find
it too dry for me
I look for a plan that will go down lower
Do you have any suggestions and plans to share me please?


Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 16 December 2015 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:



I owned 6x HD15s for approximately 2x weeks.

HD15 is a cut down version of the TSE 115H, cut down in size and performance.

TSE 115 will do 60-200hz, with right driver, at high SPL, fairly easily.

Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.


TSE 115 will do 280hz, it's used up to 250hz in the tms-2, but it does 280hz better than the tse-118 that is crossing at 280hz in the tms-4.

PD.1550 is NOT the right driver in TSE-115, it's more of a subdriver.
I testet this, I measured, (blind) listened & simulated to find proper drivers for my tms-2s
Rcf mb15n401 won, it even sounded better than the original turbodrivers.
The fane studio 15b sound very good in there to, has a bit more punch / peak.

The rcf is a 4" coil driver, but this doesn't seem to be decisive for what driver to use, I'm sure some of the 3" rcf drivers will do very well, mb15n351 & mb15n301.


If you want to why don't you just downscale the es18bph & do a sim? -Should work!
The Turbosound Aspect wide & Funktion one RES-2 are also rearloaded.


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