ES15BPH ?
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Topic: ES15BPH ?
Posted By: neilpoints
Subject: ES15BPH ?
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 12:09am
Has anyone come up with a 15" version they want to share ?
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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 3:04pm
Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available.
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Posted By: eltron
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 6:13pm
djeddie wrote:
Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available.
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...and with a selection of tried and tested solutions for the flare (curved section) with drawings and all, on this exact forum. be it a ply-curve, bendy mdf, five, three, or two part flare. actually i do not remember seeing drawings for a two-part flare, but i'm quite sure i've see photos of one. TDA-audio's maybe?
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Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 21 March 2011 at 10:52pm
"Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available."
I love Rog's HD15, but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.
HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.
------------- former Eurovision contestant
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Posted By: Mautopsy
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:13pm
Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:36pm
Mautopsy wrote:
Check out the EM15 |
whats the EM15????
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Posted By: smithshorn
Date Posted: 22 March 2011 at 11:47pm
http://hornplans.free.fr/em15.html - http://hornplans.free.fr/em15.html
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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 12:10am
I personally think the 250Hz on the EM15 is being very optimistic! With a lighter cone, maybe...
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Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 12:13am
I'm sorry, Smithshorn, but a 15" driver will fall straight through that 380mm hole in your EM15 baffle. It doesn't make sense.
I've got another nice plan here which someone has shared with me. The
only problem is that some of the dimensions seem wrong. I'm going to
check them all out and post the plan ASAP.
------------- former Eurovision contestant
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Posted By: smithshorn
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 3:07pm
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It's not "my" plan. It's simply a design I've had in my files. As is true with ANY design that isn't your own, double check EVERYTHING, BEFORE building. I haven't personally built these so didn't modify the plans as posted elsewhere, or I would have corrected the flaw you noted. I will change that dimension on my copy of the plans. Good Eye! Thanks for pointing that out to everyone! Again, don't take anything for granted.
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Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 9:42pm
sorry Smithshorn, I was a bit rude about that plan. I like this one though, it's like a ES18BPH but 15", maybe a Turbosound design.

and with this modification, it should play higher:


I'm going to change the access-panel to the conventional place for a HD, and fit the drivers from that side of the baffle, which will correct the volumes after the modification.
edit: dimensions on the 2nd picture are for ES18, not this plan.
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Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 4:58pm
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Was there any follow ups to this design or staipiers modded hd? I'm looking for a compact forward firing 15" kick bin to sit above my Lab horns.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:22pm
neilpoints wrote:
but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.
HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.
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I owned 6x HD15s for approximately 2x weeks.
HD15 is a cut down version of the TSE 115H, cut down in size and performance.
TSE 115 will do 60-200hz, with right driver, at high SPL, fairly easily.
Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.
------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 6:43pm
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what would you say is right driver for the tse?
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Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 8:31pm
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Not a fan of hd's either. That's why looking for a decent 15" compact kick bin design...one that's been built and tested.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 11:36pm
cravings wrote:
what would you say is right driver for the tse? |
PD 1550
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 9:01am
check this out 
http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-bph238_topic60521.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-bph238_topic60521.html
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Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 12:02pm
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Excellent! well done that man! Just need to convince someone to sell/build me some now...lol
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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 12:25pm
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/ from nomis23 on here.
http://forum.speakerplans.com/15-usb_topic53007.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/15-usb_topic53007.html also stuff in here
enjoy
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 3:38pm
levyte357 wrote:
Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.
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Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH? 
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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 9:23pm
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i have pd154s in mine.. haven't had the chance to compare with pd1550. i do remember really really liking the fane colossus 15b in them though.
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Posted By: neilpoints
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 11:11pm
I came up with this:
 also using triangular bits in the corners much like this:

 Designed for PD156. I'll try to find the dimensions, they're on a bit of paper somewhere. It plays from 75 to 200, sounds nice, models nice in Hornresp. I haven't heard a whole stack of them yet, just loaded one up, made a few for a mate.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 July 2012 at 12:33am
Tocooltom wrote:
levyte357 wrote:
Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.
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Did staiper actually do an ES15BPH?  |
Few people have drawn up ES15BPH, and built them.
Don't expect to see the plans on here though.
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Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 26 July 2012 at 6:58am
neilpoints wrote:
"Don't know why anyone would bother really as the HD15 is a proven design that's already available."
I love Rog's HD15, but Staiper's design is much better. It plays higher, more accurately because of the rear-loading, less difference in path-length, smaller front-chamber etc. plus I've made a modification which I think makes them play higher still, see advanced discussion, ES18 thread.
HD15 struggles at 150Hz, ES18 are good above 200Hz.
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 11:42am
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Any chance anyone can PM me a link to these plans? 
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 11:49am
Tocooltom wrote:
Any chance anyone can PM me a link to these plans?  |
TBH, I think the TSE 115 plan would sound better.
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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 12:48pm
if you didn't already see this Tom
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/ from nomis23 on here.
Driver is PD156
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 12:53pm
Keen wrote:
if you didn't already see this Tom
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/pd156kick.jpg/ from nomis23 on here.
Driver is PD156
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Thanks 
where it says internal dimension 50cm, is that the width of the internal panels? (so the cab would be 500mm wide plus 32mm for the side panels?)
or the overall width including the side panels?
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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 1:05pm
yeah wondered this too. I read it as 500mm internal panels with overall width @ 536.
here's the thread it came from too
http://forum.speakerplans.com/es15-bph_topic27238_page2.html
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Posted By: Tocooltom
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:18pm
Keen wrote:
yeah wondered this too. I read it as 500mm internal panels with overall width @ 536.
here's the thread it came from too
http://forum.speakerplans.com/es15-bph_topic27238_page2.html
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yeh my mistake 36mm 
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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 27 July 2012 at 2:47pm
yeah nice one...
 dilwang 
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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 10:53am
Posted By: anjmoor
Date Posted: 28 August 2012 at 6:44pm
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Hi all been lurking here for a while, I have dry built an ES-15 cab and modded it to sit on a cubo 15, did a sound test with all the sealed chamber joints taped and must say that I was quite satisfied so far with what i was hearing, these def dont go as high as an 18 but I think I had them running up to 160 before they started honking. great punch from them tho.
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Posted By: mousaka
Date Posted: 01 November 2015 at 5:47am
I have 4 X PD154 that i had mounted in hd15, only I don't like the sound of hd15 i find it too dry for me I look for a plan that will go down lower Do you have any suggestions and plans to share me please?
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Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 16 December 2015 at 1:05pm
levyte357 wrote:
I owned 6x HD15s for approximately 2x weeks.
HD15 is a cut down version of the TSE 115H, cut down in size and performance.
TSE 115 will do 60-200hz, with right driver, at high SPL, fairly easily.
Would be interesting to hear how ES15BPH sounds, but personally prefer "other" BPH cabs.
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TSE
115 will do 280hz, it's used up to 250hz in the tms-2, but it does
280hz better than the tse-118 that is crossing at 280hz in the tms-4.
PD.1550 is NOT the right driver in TSE-115, it's more of a subdriver. I testet this, I measured, (blind) listened & simulated to find proper drivers for my tms-2s Rcf mb15n401 won, it even sounded better than the original turbodrivers. The fane studio 15b sound very good in there to, has a bit more punch / peak.
The
rcf is a 4" coil driver, but this doesn't seem to be decisive for what
driver to use, I'm sure some of the 3" rcf drivers will do very well,
mb15n351 & mb15n301.
If you want to why don't you just downscale the es18bph & do a sim? -Should work! The Turbosound Aspect wide & Funktion one RES-2 are also rearloaded.
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