RCF L12P300
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Forum Name: Punisher and X-tro
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Topic: RCF L12P300
Posted By: djtowny
Subject: RCF L12P300
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 1:26am
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Hi there, Would the RCF L12P300 driver work well in the Punisher. I have a few of these as spares and want to put them in Punishers. Would they fit and what would there output be like. Any helps good help. Don't need other options, just need to know if they'd work alright. Thanks a lot. Ant
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 1:35am
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i think them drivers would be beter suited for mid range ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: djtowny
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 10:09am
| Maybe but I already use them in reflex subs and they work very well. Need to know what they'd be like in a horn. Mainly the Punisher. |
Posted By: airbell
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 11:02am
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not as good as the ciare in punisher.
you maybe have the same midbass or upper bass, but far less low end than with the ciares.
this is mainly because of the lower xmax, also lower power rating. so not the best choice, more a compromiss if you already have them and want it louder than reflex. but for that efford to build punishers i would also buy the best fitting drivers. best regards
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Posted By: djtowny
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 7:31pm
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Well i'll be using a stack of 4 or maybe six. So would the combined output be decent? Thx |
Posted By: airbell
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:21pm
 First plot is the L12p300. Both are 0,5pi so you say its like 4 speakers standing on the ground (theoretical) As i said rcf is better for midbass  it has more vas and less cone mass. the grey line is the spl at 500w input (i gave it 500 instead of 400...) according to 63,25V what is 500w@8 ohm. because the resistance of the whole speaker is alterning(impedance 8ohm) it has not 8ohm at each frequency, so not 500w at each frequency, but less or more. for example at 40hz the speaker has about 20ohm and will only take 200watt... thats why you have the black plot, which is at least the same important imo. it shows the max possible output at each frequency for 500w, also taking care about the max. possible cone excursion. you can see that the rcf is between 60and 80hz not limited by the power, but by the cone excursion. in real life you can push your cone more than the rated xmax, but with very fast rising distortion and not linear spl increasing. the second plot is the ciare 12sw at 1000w. you can see, considering about both plots, that the ciare has about 4db more output, if you look at the max spl plot even more... well actually its not the worst speaker for the punisher. if you dont want to do big concerts or events and like woodwork, do the punishers with rcf and have fun  surely they will give you more output than reflex and boom more... best regards |
Posted By: djtowny
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:48pm
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Thank you so much buddy. Really appreciate the help. I will use the RCF's for now, see what there like. Then in time maybe upgrade to Ciares. Thanks Ant
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Posted By: 4AC
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 3:15pm
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These gius are fitted in a RCF bandpass bass bin for installations and a D&B audio BR bass bin for bass/kicks. So it's good for bass, not for sub for punisher you need a very high xmax, and that cab is specifically designed for the sw12.00! |
Posted By: djtowny
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 8:39pm
| Well the hornresp readings look decent enough to me. So i'm going to try the RCF's before i spend a load of unnecessary cash. But cheers for the input :) |
Posted By: djtowny
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 3:23am
| Just to say, the RCF's work in Punishers extremely well. Pumping out loads of clean bass :D |
Posted By: airbell
Date Posted: 22 May 2011 at 3:51pm
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thats cool! i mean if you would directly compare it with a ciare loaded punisher maybe you d hear the 2 or 3 dB difference, but its not as far a big difference as from a reflex to a horn loaded cab. |