!!!! MINI SCOOP SHOOTOUT 2011 !!! POSTPONED
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Topic: !!!! MINI SCOOP SHOOTOUT 2011 !!! POSTPONED
Posted By: Gambian Ras
Subject: !!!! MINI SCOOP SHOOTOUT 2011 !!! POSTPONED
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 5:17pm
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The Date and venue has been set for the long awaited Battle of the Mini's Sunday 17th July 2011 From 1:00 PM - 10:00 PM @ The Black Swan 438 Stapleton Road Bristol BS5 6NR Mini Scoops confirmed to be represented so far: 1. ASS RX JNR (B & C)(with the man himself) 2. Ultimate (1851) 3. QSS (1851 and Prime 18xs) 4. Marvin (TM 1500 ) 5. Shortman (1850 & 1851) 6. Ligwa (Col 1000) 7. HBL (1851) Please note: A donation of £5.00 on the door to pay for the venue ------------- !!!!!QUALITEX TO THE WORLD!!!!! |
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:20pm
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Is this a one cab runnings ?
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Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:22pm
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2 cabs of each afaik
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Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:23pm
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i hope it will be a pair tested at a time
qss will have to confirm ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:28pm
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A pair would be better, but maybe someones single mini may blow away one of the pairs which would interestin'!
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:29pm
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Ain't none of the various versions of the Rhino gonna be there?
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 6:37pm
Yeah they will be tested in Pairs.  I'd love to see some rhinos there aswell, calling out all the rhino owners, who'd like to take part??
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Posted By: Gambian Ras
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:02pm
Yes, will be tested in pairs. ------------- !!!!!QUALITEX TO THE WORLD!!!!! |
Heathrow_B_line wrote:Posted By: Gambian Ras
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:05pm
No ones come forward with any as yet. If you or anyone you know have some, ALL MINIS WELCOME. ------------- !!!!!QUALITEX TO THE WORLD!!!!! |
Posted By: goliath
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:15pm
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can bring a couple of rhino's. what mk as i can change my mk1's to either mk2 or 3. with a little work that is. i only have tmax1800's tho to put in them which is fine for mk1 but not the others. I have a single working 1850 in lockup so if someone cud bring another i dont mind changin 2 of my rhinos. think mk3 and 1850 is pretty silly so i'm told |
Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:27pm
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there are 6x rhinos mk2s out there somewhere.... bristol : i'll have to leave well early in the morning
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Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:31pm
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What's needed is a Staip Mk1, the first one he did with an 1850 in it.
Don't own 1850, got some MDF though, and I'm fairly close to Bristol. ------------- It just is. |
Posted By: Showcase
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:35pm
| The Ligwa Mini's have been withdrawn..... |
Posted By: goliath
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 7:45pm
WHY?  |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 08 June 2011 at 8:14pm
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Ligwa Minis will still be present. Not Showcase Ligwa we have two from someone else. ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:14am
Was this the deeper, medium or narrow chamber of the various Mk's of Staipes mini?
Tempting eh?
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:20am
Frighten!
Loaded with same driver ?
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Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:33am
 Did this with a few mods and V1200.
Well documented here and other side.
V1200 didn't have enough control, extended rear baffle 75mm and made 36mm (two pieces), was very, very deep sounding box. After I sold they had TM1200's.
I think this would be very interesting up against SM etc.
I aint no Roots guy though, so could be well off the mark.
 Can say that Rhino had loads more energy, but not as deep as I built that too.
Staip Mk2 looks interesting but many sound guy say dogleg is a killer?
Mk 3 very close to Rhino.
 PS. Sometone should bring a PD loaded Staip Micro 15" jobby. ------------- It just is. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:50am
Yep!
So we keep hearing!
Is it?
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Posted By: Showcase
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 6:53am
Ebony Showcase is not frightened at all. We are now trying to build on our BNE sucsess. And making some money from playing out now... As we don't seem to be popular winners of th BNE 2011. The hardest thing in life will be trying to stay at the top as everyone seems to want to knock us down already. But that's the sound business nothing new 
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Posted By: The Builder
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 9:24am
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Is it?
I meant the way the deep back baffle evolved.
As for the Rhino, I know the man I sold mine to uses tham for R&B with great effect, the Rhino can kick as well, much more all round cab IMHO. ------------- It just is. |
Posted By: Gee136
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 9:24am
Waz up Mr B? Who's upset you????? Sorry for the tread hijack Gambian Ras Peace................................................. ------------- Goverment Sound (weight & treble roots machine) When Goverment ah play, infidels, ginals & masqueraders run away..... |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 10:09am
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Posted By: SUFFERER
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 10:12am
| what about the LIGWA 21" mini |
Posted By: phildat
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 11:46am
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Shame that....gonna be in Spain but would have loved to be there and come with some rhinos... ------------- Its just a ride. |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:22pm
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There will be 2 of each minis. We will run them together and then single and compare. Because every Driver is different and take different power to perform, The boxes will be first tested with equal input on 1 particular track, then the controls will be given to the owners of the boxes to drive as hard as they feel their boxes can handle. Any other ideas on test conditions please feel free to share Bless Kutty ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:46pm
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Pre-amp or Mixer on front end? ------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 1:06pm
| wish i was around so i could have bring my rhino |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 1:25pm
You dun know that was meant to be taken lightly & seen as a joke ennit! What I meant was nuff man ah run from di shortman Mini!
I know your system is well criss & you know that from the first time heard it!
But since you've mentioned Ebony's Ligwa minis been withdrawn out of this, questions have been asked & people wondering how comes they pulled out of Bristol the other day & now this.
Which you must of kinda expected & no one can complain about, as we're all humans & have sense!
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Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 2:03pm
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who is your money on tek? i got a fiver on the shortman mini mk1 with a 1850 to be the champ
old is gold! ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: goliath
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 3:01pm
| i recon for all round bass and tone the rx jr's r gunna rock. heard them at the demo at southend, loved them n the entire system too |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 3:55pm
Don't know mate as there's some heavyweight contenders there so far & on hearing some of the latest minis they're delivering a lot of pressure.
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Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 4:06pm
Mostec Preamp running through a XTA DP448 and powered by K10 ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 4:06pm
i got £5 on the Shortman mini mk1 Tmax 1200 loaded  ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 4:11pm
I've got £10 on everyone having a good time and £100 on a good banter. ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 4:23pm
Yes, same box same driver ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 4:52pm
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hope tony R lets someone put a pd1850 in his box. ------------- F.T.S.S. |
Posted By: Showcase
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:02pm
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We do usually pull out of non profit making events. As we didn't build the boxes scoop shoot out mean anything to us. And furthermore if they manage to blow my driver who pays for the repair?? Enough whining from me
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Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:04pm
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man with the level control in their hands is the owner of the box, thats been said already no to non-profit making events??  ------------- F.T.S.S. |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:24pm
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kutty what u doing to me!!!! my car will know its own way to the black swan soonlooking forward to this also, looking forward to hearing ass mini (at last)and a few more un known combos!!!!reakon for shear spl the sman mk1 may have the edge,but for throw judging by what i heard all ready,marvs and the qss/ultimate mini with 51 in will be ahead.....only a pure guess mind,also like to hear the ass mini with a tmax in out of interest,
another question?????noticed most of the minis out there have med to large chamber,so is it that a small chamber mini with its reduced horn length (compared to a full)just sounds to cold and not like a scoop?????? ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:37pm
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theres so many boxes in the list i cant see any clear 'winner' at all, just alot of good boxes with different strengths an weakness...... everyones got their own preference as to how they like their sub. i've got a feeling i know what my favourites will be but only time will tell
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Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:40pm
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yeah u right preferance is a great thing,my thing would be to have a mini for the ease to move but not lose to much of the throw!!!!!also like to hear the marv mini with a pd in!!!!!so many combos when u sit and think about it!!!! ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 5:46pm
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Yeah thats why i went for sman mini as its the smallest i believe. anything too much bigger and i would of just got another set of full scoops. its gona be a real interesting day that's all i can say!!
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 14 June 2011 at 2:39pm
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looking forward to hearing tonys system again ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: goliath
Date Posted: 14 June 2011 at 2:48pm
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+1 the R2U system was the nicest system i heard last year AMAZING SYSTEM |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 14 June 2011 at 3:44pm
great clarity would love a set of them midtops seriously. ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 1:36pm
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R2U??
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Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 1:44pm
| updates ? |
Posted By: SUFFERER
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 4:17pm
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Ligwa 21" mini jus hear say? |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 23 June 2011 at 4:19pm
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ya maan
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Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 06 July 2011 at 10:18pm
Yes peeps! 10 days to go Are there any one else that wants to enter their minis? ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 10 July 2011 at 10:54am
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1 week to go! Updated list confirmed to be represented so far: 1. ASS RX JNR (B & C)(with the man himself) 2. Ultimate (1851) 4. Marvin (TM 1500 ) 5. Shortman (1850 & 1851) 6. Ligwa (Col 1000) ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 10 July 2011 at 12:29pm
Would like to hear marv bin with 1850,and another  ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 12 July 2011 at 11:00am
21'' mini's needed.
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Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 12 July 2011 at 11:29am
Whose got some?? Would love to have them there! ------------- "Music is life" |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 12 July 2011 at 4:27pm
should be a good day some nice boxes in the mix! any rhino owners out there willing to bring some long?? all for abit of fun and knowedge  ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: QSS
Date Posted: 13 July 2011 at 11:35pm
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Ok People!! Had to make a tough decision. Due to circumstances, some of the people bringing their boxes on Sunday had to pull out. As it stands only RX JNR and Ultimate can make it. so unfortunately we have to postpone the shootout until another day. Will let you all know when a new date is set.
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Posted By: Motion54
Date Posted: 15 July 2011 at 7:57am
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Real sorry to hear that!! A few of us were looking forward to this event, especially the results. |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 15 July 2011 at 10:24am
dont worry it will still happen at some point with even more boxes  ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: godge
Date Posted: 08 October 2011 at 5:40pm
| Any update for a rescheduled mini scoop shoutout |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 10:06pm
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think a shootout with both full and minis would be more interesting as you will see direct comparison between the full and minis. mix it up. throw in everything..... ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 10:10pm
+1 ------------- PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM. Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music. Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day. |
Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 10:18pm
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can someone sort a North london venue, ideally right at the end of the M11 ------------- F.T.S.S. |
Posted By: JudgeDredd
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 10:38pm
Golden Palace is approx 3 mins down the A406 from start of M11...  ------------- "Please inform the Federation, we have engaged the Borg.." |
Posted By: soundcritic
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 10:54pm
+2 ------------- I am everywhere and I am nowhere! |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 04 December 2011 at 11:43am
+3
+1
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 04 December 2011 at 12:23pm
Think that might be a bit long... How about full scoop shootout, then mini shootout... Then shootout for 2x best minis vs 2x best full scoops.. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: bitzo
Date Posted: 04 December 2011 at 2:20pm
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what kind of measurement will be taken?
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 04 December 2011 at 2:32pm
"Personally", my judgement will be what I hear from each cab. If I was arranging this, Wouldn't be any measurement, or blind test, or sine waves, or curtains, or white coats.
Many people won't agree with above, but don't care.. Been to enough of these shootouts, and gigs using minis, to know what's relevant in a test, and what isn't. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: bitzo
Date Posted: 04 December 2011 at 3:06pm
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same amp, same eq?
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 4:04pm
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i'm more interested in private session, similar to what you did at workshop with tek, but with x2 of selected cabs. public things get too political and more energy would go into pleasing other people or clarifying why you're doing what you're doing etc if you get me? i reckon it would turn it into a long day and take the fun out of it. surely between a few of us we can get the needed cabs, book a £100 hall, between 8 people would only be £12.50 each.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 4:14pm
In this "financial climate", I can bet there are many under arch industrial premises vacant due to business closure. Sure one of these could be located/rented for a day, with good parking/access, and away from residential areas. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: LIGWA
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 5:07pm
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ligwa col 1000 is old new!! we have to new mini a 21" mini and two new 18" mini. Are there any rules this time? last time they made the rules as there went along. let me get this clear I can use what ohms I want, what size driver I want, when it comes to mini scoops it Ligwa's first name. one driver, one mini, best all round bass sound and overall cost of the mini to end user if these are the factors lets get it on........................
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 5:39pm
Think we need to drug test your mini's before they are allowed to compete.. "Personally", I'd say 8 ohm cab whether 21 or 18", Bad enough different size drivers. (mykey & ligwa, typical)..If is 1x cab test, bridged amp will power it easily, whatever it is. Since is a "mini" scoop ting, should also be height restriction, suggestions ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: LIGWA
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 5:45pm
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My 18 and 21 are 4 ohms guest that rules me out! dont mind leave out the drugs in the port holes lol
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 6:01pm
Sure you of all people can locate "suitable" 8 ohm drivers for your cabs. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 10:22pm
nice to meet you btw  ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: LIGWA
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 10:34pm
nice to meet you btw I use the celestion neo 21" 25x 27x30 with the price neo going up and down not sure what going on there, can not put a price on the cab yet. nice meeting you too..... |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 11:21pm
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same driver as the S7 : ) S7 is 45 H x 31 D x 25 W so a different beast ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: LIGWA
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 11:25pm
wow!! you are not joking
 thats a beast |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 11:57pm
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but still smaller than a full size 18'' scoop, and far smaller than a 21'' super and 21'' ASS scoop so yours is 30'' H? 27 D? 25 W? ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 05 December 2011 at 11:59pm
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so if it's 30'' H, you'll have a mouth of around 5''s high? you sure that's a scoop? ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 06 December 2011 at 12:14am
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lets see a pic mykey ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: LIGWA
Date Posted: 06 December 2011 at 8:43am
25 w x 37 h x 30d sorry miss type
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