Smoke Machine in Kevin and Perry Go large?
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Topic: Smoke Machine in Kevin and Perry Go large?
Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Subject: Smoke Machine in Kevin and Perry Go large?
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:04pm
So I watched this the other night and in the club there is a part where you just see the crowd and this huge amount of smoke just covers them totally blasting in their face
Was wondering if they just have some mentally powerful crazy smoke machine
mutiple smoke machines firing at it or some special way of doing it, me and my dad were thinking some kind of resovoir where the smoke is kept and blasted out by huge fans or something
short clip at 0:48 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENwy9GRyF0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENwy9GRyF0
I Know its a film etc but I thought systems like this will be in place not that im planning on trying to recreate it just pretty amazed by it...
cheers :)
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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:16pm
I think its a c02 cannon?
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Posted By: mister_pi
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:27pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej847n0aOHo
One of them, I think its CO2 cannons and air blowers?
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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:29pm
Ahh cool
That would be extremely cold as well wouldn't it? Guess thats a good thing though in a club
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Posted By: Chris M
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:32pm
I believe that exact one was in air in Birmingham at one point
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Posted By: mister_pi
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:38pm
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Yep, CO2 cannons are nice and cool, I want one of these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz_qrfgjrQw
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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 2:39pm
Does it act like a smoke machine does the haze hang around or does it dissapear instantly?
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Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 3:06pm
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Disperses pretty quickly, you need to keep an eye on CO2 levels so not suitable for extended periods of use. For large smoke outputs look at the old Jem Roadie, a 10kw smoke machine.... I'm currently touring one, it's getting a bit long in the tooth now and always gets a raised eyebrow when I request a 32a 3 phase supply for my "small smoke machine"......
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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 17 July 2011 at 3:25pm
I thought as much
For the venues we do the smoke machine we have is adequate a cheapy chauvet 1300W thing not proffesional by your guys standards but it does a good job...
I was just interested in the way they did it
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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 2:29am
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I have a question, when I've under a CO2 cannon, it seems to starve the oxygen making it a little hard to breathe, or is that just me?
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 12:31pm
They used quite a lot of CO2 at Pulse, and whilst it was very hot too, I don't think it helped matters pumping the place full of CO2. Max was ill after one I think.
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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 1:22pm
mm didnt think about that :/
That amount of c02 can't be good in confined spaces
I suppose if an electrical fire breaks out your sorted for extinguishers....
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 08 August 2011 at 2:47pm
ive been in a club where they bought them in for the night, didnt have suitable ventilation whatsoever, and ended up becoming so dangerous (points where it was a struggle for breath) someone secretly called in the fire&licencing officer who straight away condemned the building for the night and had it evacuated.
It is an awesome effect when used moderately in a well ventilated venue, and very refreshing when the 40degree dancefloor plumets 20degrees in a second - like stepping into a freezer!!
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Posted By: Chris M
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 10:12am
mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:
ive been in a club where they bought them in for the night, didnt have suitable ventilation whatsoever, and ended up becoming so dangerous (points where it was a struggle for breath) someone secretly called in the fire&licencing officer who straight away condemned the building for the night and had it evacuated.
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"Someone" eh ginge 
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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 11:52am
CO2 is a heavy gas so sinks in air, if you stand under it that is all you will be breathing. Too much will kill you, even if you are a plant.
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 1:22pm
Chris M wrote:
mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:
ive been in a club where they bought them in for the night, didnt have suitable ventilation whatsoever, and ended up becoming so dangerous (points where it was a struggle for breath) someone secretly called in the fire&licencing officer who straight away condemned the building for the night and had it evacuated.
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"Someone" eh ginge 
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hah wasnt me, the persons identity is private due to relationships with the venue!
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Posted By: Pirlo
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 7:16pm
Ya can find an install in amnesia (ibiza) and cocoon (frankfurt/main), if ya want to buy it, and have the pennys needed, here is the manufacturer from the cocoon-install: http://www.cryofex.de/index.html" rel="nofollow - hit-me-hard
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Posted By: mister_pi
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 8:05pm
Pirlo, those are liquid nitrogen, not CO2..
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Posted By: Pirlo
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 8:52pm
The topic was " Smoke-Machine in Kevin and Perry Go large", isn´t!? According to this, they use a system like shown in the link before - easy as that!

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Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 9:50pm
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See using Liquid nitrogen if it starved the club of oxygen like an earlier poster suggested with the c02 would it give the same effect as taking one of them there hippy crack balloons?
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Posted By: mister_pi
Date Posted: 10 August 2011 at 10:13pm
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Nope, Nitrogen isn't nitrous oxide. Though while Nitrogen isn't as toxic as CO2, its not going to do you much good if you breath nothing else..
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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 16 August 2011 at 9:04pm
We fitted a system in a club down here for NYE... 2 x solenoid valve heads with hook clamps on, and a firing box, with heavy duty hoses running to BIG co2 bottles (like the 5ft high o2 bottles used in oxy acetylene welding gear). You only got about 30 seconds of continuous jets from the bottles before they were done, so only used for quick 3-4 second bursts - we used a couple to 'test' them before the club was open! Amnesia must have a massive tank full of the stuff and empty it daily to get that effect, but i can tell you its very welcome in there - was bloody busy when i visited! Eden out there also have a system.
Great effect but overused it's dangerous and a bit much, loses its effectiveness. I remember reading that Amnesia need a certain type of ventilation / fan / ducting arrangement to get rid of it all quick and reventilate the room.
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