DIY Dance stack
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Topic: DIY Dance stack
Posted By: nomercy82
Subject: DIY Dance stack
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:08pm
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From the plans available on the internet. Which would make the best Dance stack? (Large visually imposing stack of speakers) I was thinking 2 G subs per stack with a barn door extension, and either a dual X215 ( an X 15 extended to fit 2 15's inside it) And Some sort of constant directitivity horns array. All Active. I was talking to an engineer I know and he chewed me out over wanting to build a system out of old stuff like the EAW BH882 and JBL 2395. I like it but apparently it's not good stuff. ------------- Building a system in Pennsylvania. |
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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:22pm
| 1850s, HD15s, xtros. Yes there's overlap but it would be imposing. |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:31pm
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This is what you want! that's what I call imposing Edit: A Wattco system from Mykey
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Posted By: thepersonunknown
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:32pm
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i think labs realy do look bad boy as a lump of bass, i gues you could almost streatch em to xtros, although better and more imposing with usb es 18 between. anyone actualy run a rig like that? not herd this combo exactly myself
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Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:38pm
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pssst, no way Sam. Only if you like 100hz! You'd want some badboy FLH / BP6 between 20-80hz - to get some height (Tops need to go OVER peoples heads, not straight at the poor person in front of it). Think 18"/21". Straight hornloaded 15"s, either ported or sealed chamber. 80-240hz. Think impulse response for fast bass. Hornloaded 10" 240hz-2hz to 1.5" / 1" compression drivers. With a sprinking of bullets on top for the cats in the audience. .. Maybe?
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Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:40pm
| Or cross between mid/bass and mid higher to 400hz to get a sweeter 8" in the mid horn |
Posted By: nomercy82
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 7:42pm
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Reflex cabs I should have specified. 1850's are too much for ANYTHING I do.
------------- Building a system in Pennsylvania. |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 21 September 2011 at 8:12pm
 Punisher dance stack... ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 1:02am
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12 TSW-121s, 8 TSE-218s, 4 TMS-3 V2 anything else just looks and bit, well, small, quiet and with 4 x PL 9.0 1x PL 6.0 and 2 x PL 2.0 driving it 5 way really made some rather nice sounds, the fact the whole lot looked like it may have anal sex with your Gran, if it wanted just adds to the fun...
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Posted By: nomercy82
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 3:22am
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Punisher Dance Stack. VERY nice work, is that a Funktion one unit on the very top? and what are the two boxes in the middle? I think the Turbo sound stack costs more than my car. ------------- Building a system in Pennsylvania. |
Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 9:30am
| Nice Timebomb. Think I've seen those kick sections before on a rig, with tiny, tiny tops above it. |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 1:04pm
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Thanks guys, yep the mid highs are a funktion ax88 split in half, im working on my own mid high but its some way off yet. The low mids are my own design 2 x 12" horn the same external dimensions as a punisher.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 1:54pm
Fairplay just owns some of it ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
colint wrote:Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 1:56pm
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Posted By: cilla.scope
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 2:13pm
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Re the fairplay/Wattco system: You know, if that had been painted standard black, no one would take any notice .. but painted that blue, it really stands out. Sometimes, I think ppl paint stuff black so it looks "no worse than anyone elses" ... and sometimes you really want people to notice! ... bit of paint really does make a difference! ------------- My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well, she's not exactly my girlfriend yet ... |
Posted By: Smiter
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 3:30pm
  Kids dance stack that I made up (while bored, obviously), never made it out of the warehouse... |
Posted By: RAGING PROMOTIONS
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 4:00pm
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these guys reckon that their stack sounds the same as funktion, (they've used FK1 drivers you see!)its based in london and it really doesn't sound that good. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/23089918635406016831636.jpg/" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Smiter
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 4:25pm
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Those guys hire a rack of amps from us to drive that system, you'll see our rack case on the left. Nice to know they're going to fields etc with it... :| It's nicely built.. but yes... unfortunately the knowledge of processors etc is lacking somewhat.
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Posted By: RAGING PROMOTIONS
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 4:33pm
| the guys are moondrop, psy-party promoters, outdoor and indoor squat parties is what they do. |
Posted By: Wrek0ne
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 4:44pm
Very nice. What are the 2 mid range boxes? Also where are you guys from? ------------- Poll this! |
Posted By: nomercy82
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 5:31pm
How could they hope the sound like Funktion 1 if for starters they don't have the plans to build FK1 boxes/ don't have the phase plug? ------------- Building a system in Pennsylvania. |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 8:01pm
Thanks, were from lancaster, the high mids are funktion ax88s, the low mids are my own design. ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: Wrek0ne
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 8:58pm
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The low mid looks naughty, how and what are they loaded with? I can't figure out if its a short double small driver based horn or a single loaded flare, do you have more pictures? ------------- Poll this! |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 9:56pm
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Cheers, Its a twin 12", there is some more pics on my facebook page, i think i posted some other pictures on here with the mid highs in. Edit, found em: http://forum.speakerplans.com/show-off-your-sound-systempart-2_topic38351_post470465.html?KW=#470465" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/show-off-your-sound-systempart-2_topic38351_post470465.html?KW=#470465 You can see the access panels on the side, drivers are right behind them with magnet almost touching, horn does a quick 180 to minimize path length differences on the turn. ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 10:07pm
I'd like to see my Main Screen Eco Sound system with some double 24" underneath. my perfect dance stack!
 ------------- REFLEX ALL THE WAY.... (however, im playing with horns again...) That ok Mister Valiant? :) |
Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 22 September 2011 at 10:15pm
That looks evil, yeah with some 24s underneath and the horns pointing down from above you...mmmmmm
------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 12:39am
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That's a beauty Rich
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Posted By: burnout124816
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 1:07am
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@ Rich
are these JBL horns the 2360 ? they look splendid
what driver do you use with them ?
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Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 11:42am
yes, 2360 horns. the driver is a JBL 2451J neo 1.4" compression driver with an adaptor which converts it into a 2" exit, 2450J. The adaptor is made from turned birch and is made to the exact dimensions to match the 2450J flare rate. ------------- REFLEX ALL THE WAY.... (however, im playing with horns again...) That ok Mister Valiant? :) |
Posted By: RAGING PROMOTIONS
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 2:09pm
I did explain this to them but they insisted it didn't matter as they were fk1 drivers so it "must" sound good! we used to do systems for them with 21's and res 4's apparently they consider this to sound better, each to there own i suppose! |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 2:21pm
And here in lies the problem, I would imagine that lot outputs a lot more SPL than the FK boxes would with the same drivers in (face it they'll have used Fane driver, not FK ones as getting raw drivers out of FK1 is not easy for very obvious reasons), a total lack of control and phase coherence will certainly grab your ear more than a Res 4 will... This has overtures of me quoting to put 60Kw of TMS-3/18/21s in for a party becuase a called Stacey tuff had done the last gig with 45KW (all home made that he manged to get into a single transit!!) and it wasn't enough!!!! When I explained I would need 30' in either an artic or a 20 tonne truck to get 60KW to the gig a few home truths started to settle... No one at FK knows any where near as much about top end PA as you average promotor does, I just wish all these audio genius' had time in their busy schedule to pop over the the farm and give John and Tony a few pointers as they are obviously overcomplicating things and need some guidance!!  |
Posted By: torch1
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 2:29pm
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Posted By: godge
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 2:30pm
| four stasys5's with a pair of xtros sat on top, that's mine and my mates little stack, not entirely DIY but still. want to replace the stasys 5with a pair of stasys x, now that would make a very nice dance stack |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 23 September 2011 at 2:37pm
I stand corrected Mykey, It's one of my fav systems I've had the photo for age's it look's so simple but it also look's like it would eat small children! can I have It please Mykey? Out of interest what is the bass cab and what would it have been loaded with? ------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
Posted By: IvCu
Date Posted: 05 December 2018 at 10:49pm
I wonder what people think about this question today !
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