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Anybody have plans for the G-Sub but 15"?

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Topic: Anybody have plans for the G-Sub but 15"?
Posted By: MadHandz
Subject: Anybody have plans for the G-Sub but 15"?
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 9:28pm
I'm looking for the G-Subs plans for a 15" driver, the plans on this site are for 18" drivers. 
any help would be appreciated, was going to try figure it out myself, but figured since i failed my GCSE in maths, i should probably seek some help :) many thanks in advance

Darren



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Posted By: ermita
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 9:35pm
you mean this? 
http://www.bcspeakers.com/suggested.php?id=0000000007" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcspeakers.com/suggested.php?id=0000000007


Posted By: MadHandz
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 9:38pm
Thank you but no i was looking for a 15" driver version - dual loaded

http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub" rel="nofollow - http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub

those are the plans from speakerplans but 18"

thank you


Posted By: Adam_Iron_Horse
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 10:48pm
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Ports not in the middle but close enough...

can i ask why you want a double? you will get the same resposnse from two singles stacked together and singles are easier to carry...


Posted By: MadHandz
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 10:53pm
It says the page cannot be displayed.

and im not too experienced in speakers yet, still learning, my friend has a few of these cabs in the 18" driver and they sound amazing, i know the sound probably wont be exactly the same ect.

mainly just sticking with what i know :P but thank you :)

darren


Posted By: stitchy
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 11:19pm
i've got a pair of double 15's based on g-sub design sat in my garage collecting dust,make me an offer,will try get pics for you tomorrow
 
                    cheers stitchy


Posted By: MadHandz
Date Posted: 23 November 2011 at 11:34pm
I will have a look at pictures and show my friend (we're both building the speakers) and we will make an offer. thanks :)

Darren


Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 27 November 2011 at 4:43pm
Not a G sub as such but not far off don't even know where this plan came from but found it on my hard drive if it's any use.



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Posted By: MadHandz
Date Posted: 27 November 2011 at 5:14pm
Yes! these are very helpful! thank you very much Colint. these will do perfectly, much appreciated!

MadHandz


Posted By: Wrek0ne
Date Posted: 28 November 2011 at 5:08am



This may help?


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Posted By: C-Audiofreak
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 5:51pm
Awesome would that p-audio plan be any good as a kick bin to go above an X1?


Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 8:22pm
I've built the P-audio cab not so sure about kick as it goes quite low but it sure makes for a good general use bass cab and works lovely with a quality 1 x 12" + hf above it.

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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 8:56pm
Which 15's did you use in the P-Audio cab Colin?


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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 9:00pm
I used some old EV drivers worked a treat but I've since also tried them with some 2226H JBL's the result was really warm low bass and plenty of it, nice useful box if a bit large for a 2 x 15 but very usable as a simple four box system with the right top boxes.

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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 10:01pm
Yes great cabs tbh, i built these too worked well above my scoops cut at 70-85 there about so runn these to about 175 and thay hit hard man and move some serious air too, pd loaded

tested them with pd1550 deadly, and some eminence/fane xb and orther drivers with lighter cones big difference in upper-bass tones, ovisly depending on x/o points...lighter cones faster response...worked well tho in upper-bass range too

really rate these cabs good cone controll too...as colin said a good all round bass cab tbh...agreed, brace them well too 

love them !!!Big smile










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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 03 March 2015 at 10:07pm


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Posted By: C-Audiofreak
Date Posted: 04 March 2015 at 6:36pm
hi dub specialist please can you pm me the plans you used to build those cabs i cannot seem to copy and print the one posted here


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 04 March 2015 at 7:07pm
no problem , done my friend....

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Posted By: C-Audiofreak
Date Posted: 04 March 2015 at 7:08pm
Cheers dub😃👍


Posted By: TacticalSound
Date Posted: 27 June 2017 at 7:01pm
Dub Specialist Sound

if i can have it , i want this print to.. have been searching for them and dont find


bless up


Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 27 June 2017 at 9:05pm


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Posted By: insguy
Date Posted: 16 September 2019 at 6:51pm
Greetings. Warming up this thread again as I am planning to build a "15" G-Sub" to go above two 18" Scoops. I am a novice at woodwork but succesfully managed to build two cabins for Mids and now am looking for the next challenge.

I found two different versions for the "G-Sub" 15" design. One seems to follow the original Mogale plan:

(compare the original 18" G-Sub here:  http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub - https://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=gsub  )

The other one is from P-Audio and I call it a "G-Sub" just for being very similar in desgin yet a lot more complex to build:


The first seems pretty straightforward and easy to build, however all the discussion and experiences in this thread (especially from Dub Specialist) are regarding the more complex design. I am wondering if anyone has build the simple version and could even compare it to the other one.

Also rearding both designs: I want to build in handles at the sides, does it matter where exactly they go? Can the space/volume they take up inside the cabin be ignored sound/tuning wise?

Thanks for your replies!


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 16 September 2019 at 8:50pm
It’s a pretty basic reflex cabinet. You can easily simulate one for the driver of your choice and build it. Just brace the hell out of the panels.


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 16 September 2019 at 11:24pm
Ive built 100s of boxs , p-audio will piss over standed plan 15in g-sub




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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 17 September 2019 at 9:07am
Why would that be? 

Its a much smaller cab, with a noticeable reduction in internal volume. Can the more complicated port and more heavily recessed baffle really do that much?


Posted By: insguy
Date Posted: 05 November 2019 at 4:02pm
Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Ive built 100s of boxs , p-audio will piss over standed plan 15in g-sub



Did you put any insulation in this or just the braces?


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 05 November 2019 at 10:21pm
tbh both above..down to what you prefer..all box must be braced, standard procedure

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Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE...


Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 05 November 2019 at 11:08pm
Sorry for asking a silly question as this thread is about 15's, but Dub, do you have plans for the p-audio 18 reflex? I really want some double 18's because I'm tempted to move away from scoops (most sounds begining to look/sound the same.)..

Edit... Grammar 😂


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Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 06 November 2019 at 5:18am
http://www.paudiothailand.com/uploads/pdf/SystemDesigns/DIY-218S1.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.paudiothailand.com/uploads/pdf/SystemDesigns/DIY-218S1.pdf

http://www.paudiothailand.com/uploads/pdf/SystemDesigns/218%20GST-SUB.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.paudiothailand.com/uploads/pdf/SystemDesigns/218%20GST-SUB.pdf


Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 06 November 2019 at 8:20am
The first dual 18 P-audio design absolutely doesn't have enough port area. The second one is a step in the right direction but when using drivers like the 18sw100 I would even prefer more port area.


Posted By: APW
Date Posted: 06 November 2019 at 10:09am

Have you modelled your driver in the box?

Using the first driver listed (SD1801700EL) on the first p.audio PDF the air speed through the four ports is about 0.15 Mach, anything below 0.2 is considered OK



Posted By: JBK
Date Posted: 06 November 2019 at 11:11am
Back to OP / original question, this plan is pretty popular for reggae sounds in france
http://boomboomcollective.free.fr/site_downloads/BBC.BR215.MidBass_Speaker_Design.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://boomboomcollective.free.fr/site_downloads/BBC.BR215.MidBass_Speaker_Design.pdf
We use it (1 above 2 scoops, usually in stacks of 4 scoops)) loaded with L15P530, crossed around 80/200
They kick well and sound warm (I've always prefered the warm sound of reflex over the dryer sounding bph designs often used in kick/upper bass, it suits roots / old school tune well I think, maybe less transparent), also I find them pretty sensitive, no need for enormous amps to make them sing, not that this is very subjective, I've never done a direct comparaison against another 215 reflex though.


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Posted By: smitske96
Date Posted: 06 November 2019 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

Have you modelled your driver in the box?

Using the first driver listed (SD1801700EL) on the first p.audio PDF the air speed through the four ports is about 0.15 Mach, anything below 0.2 is considered OK


When I model such a cab (around 180L, 37 Hz tuning) and using the 18SW100.
With 90V (1500 Watt) it reaches 50 m/s and then I'm even using a 35 Hz HP.



I have a PDF written up by someone from the Speakerfreakers group about port compression (can't find it atm). 
Conclusion is that bigger ports are needed.


Posted By: Lion Eye
Date Posted: 24 May 2021 at 6:56pm
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Posted By: DMorison
Date Posted: 25 May 2021 at 2:02pm
1: You won't be able to access PMs until you have at least 10 "points" as a forum user ( broadly equal to posts - but don't just post spam to get them!).

2: the plans for the P Audio 215 are on both page 1 and page 2 of this thread already ;-)


Posted By: Lion Eye
Date Posted: 25 May 2021 at 2:53pm
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