Matrix, Macrotech or Void to run 2 hogscoops?
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Forum Name: 1850 and 186 horns
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Topic: Matrix, Macrotech or Void to run 2 hogscoops?
Posted By: TuffRyder
Subject: Matrix, Macrotech or Void to run 2 hogscoops?
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:09pm
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I´m planning to build 2 hogscoops loaded with PD 1850´s. Just got the first of the two 1850´s today so it´s still a lot of work to be done before the hogscoops are ready. Still. I need to do some planning and I need to decide what amps to go for since I guess that´s where I´ll spend my money.. And I also want to have the amps ready for when the hogscoops are. So I´ve been looking at three different amps to run the hogscoops. 1. Matrix XT5000G 2. Crown Macrotech MA-5000i 3. Void Infinite 7 All amps meet the required specs on paper (which basically is 1000-1250w/channel in 8 ohm) but I have no idea how they perform in real life. I like the idea of Matrix and Macrotech since they don´t weigh as much as the Void amps. And I really like the looks of the Macrotech but someone told me that Void is the "sh*t" and would really deliver some heavy bass? The music that I play is 80´s reggae (mostly 85-89 stuff) and it´s all vinyl (if that matters?). I don´t really have a budget but I still want the most bass for the buck. If two of the suggested amps will deliver the same punch and power but one will do it for less money I´ll go for the less expensive one. So please, give me some advice about amps! And please, feel free to recomend any another amp you think think is better then the ones I´m thinking about. If you want to hear the music that´s going to be played on this system you can check soundcloud.com/garabediansound //Tuff |
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:21pm
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Get a Macrotech 5000 or Inf8. Or "proven" lightweight. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: project 1
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:24pm
| how reliable are these void amplifiers? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:40pm
 There are many Inf8V2s out there terrorising venues... ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
project 1 wrote:Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:48pm
What, in your opinion, makes Macrotech or Infiniti 7 (or as suggested 8) better than Matrix? From what I´ve read not all people are that fond of Macrotech but I´m not really sure why. Macrotech 5000 is about 2000 usd on ebay. Do you have any idea about the price for a Inf 7 or 8? //Tuff |
Posted By: godge
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:55pm
| infinite8's are about £1250 second hand usually |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 11:10pm
Many, many times have seen Macrotech 5000/Inf8V2 absolutely belt 2x 1850s per channel, without much issue. Have also seen QSC PL380, K10, FFA10K, LabG and many other "quality" lightweights do the same thing, without issue or thermalling. Can't say that for all lightweights. Inf8V2 will probably be cheapest in UK. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: balistic_sounds
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 11:56pm
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Get the Macrotech ------------- Don't underestimate no sound! |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 9:37am
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Ok. I guess I´ll go for the macrotech MA-5000i. Thanks for the input!
//Tuff
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Posted By: project 1
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 10:50am
Im into well known brands but I have always wondered.
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Posted By: project 1
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 10:51am
I think you have made the right choice.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 11:12am
These days, there are plenty of right choices and ways of doing things. But I would take £1200 used Inf8V2 over £800 MA-5000 anyday of the week. Most of us "mostly" play in places with only household 240V 13A sockets, and in these venues, Inf8V2 will outplay the Crown, not only due to more output power, but mostly due to efficiency of 87% vs much older Crowns 65%. Advantage of MA-5000, Good design, holds price well, very solid performance if fed decent mains current, plenty of docs/support info. Disadvantages, poor sound quality/high distortion compared to other sub amps, low efficiency compared to modern amps, costly to repair, poor performance if mains supply not very stiff or sagging. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 12:40pm
| However TuffRyder is looking at the newer lightweifht MA5000i as opposed to the old heavyweight MA5000VZ. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 1:09pm
Was wondering about that... If the MA5000i sounds anything like the ITECH 8000 could be interesting... ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 12:24am
Thanks again for the input. Didn´t know that there were two versions of the Marcotech 5000. Anyone sitting on some info about the new version regarding the disadvantages posted above? Could those issues been fixed in the newer version? I´m really intrested in keeping the weight down. The rig is probably going to be heavy as it is without me having to lug 50 kilos of amp as well.. However. I do not want to sacrifice quality sound for lightweight. This is my first rig and I don´t want to be a "dibby dibby sound". It´s not going to be the biggest rig around but I want it to sound great. //Tuff |
Posted By: knet94
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 12:51am
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I guess a lot of it is going to come down to your budget and availability for you over in Sweden. Prices quoted here may have no relevance to where you are. There will be many supporters of all those amps mentioned so it's going to be down to you to choose what's best for you. IMO none of those amps are crap and I'm pretty sure you'd be happy with any. I'm a great fan of the old heavyweight Macrotechs but I also have Powersoft, Void, PKN and Matrix in my arsenal. At the moment I'm leaning towards leightweight just coz I'm getting old and want to save my back. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 1:11am
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As an electronics techno freak I use Matrix amps. I like the design and topology. I have had many SMPS failures with amps. Not one Matrix yet, not even in a venue with 250vAC. I have no issues with them. I have used an awful lot of them too. I have personally never liked 5000's. The Void is OK, but I preffer Matrix. For the money they have the most bang per buck, and the after sales service is second to none. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: phildat
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 1:16pm
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Muckerbarnes' rig has proves that Matrix deliver...(yes i have heard
it)..My rig proves the Matrix deliver...countless other rigs owned by
people on here testify to the fact that Matrix amps deliver, week in week out. Im not biased cos i own them, I have known a couple of the NCA/FFA guys before those companies even existed but have chosen to own Matrix and am more than happy with what they can do. ------------- Its just a ride. |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 2:16pm
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Om jag var du skulle jag köpa en Lab 6400 kan användas för 3 PD1850 en kanal, har jag gjort det, en av de bästa förstärkarna där ute. Francis ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 2:21pm
Var det med 3x PD1850 per kanal? Jag vet att FP13000 kan göra det, eftersom jag har sett FP13000 chines kopian göra det ... LOL .. Skulle behöva brandsläckare om du försöker att göra det med Matrix lätta .. LOL .. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 3:12pm
I¨ve been recomended Matrix by several people and I started talking to Matt @ Matrix about buying the XT5000/6000 but he wouldn´t give me the price over e-mail and insisted that we talked over the phone but we could never get our schedules to sync and we never talked. Since then I´ve sent him a couple of e-mails but I haven´t got any response. That´s basically the reason why I started looking at other amps again, otherwise I was pretty much set on buying from Matrix. //Tuff |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 3:20pm
Kul med lite svenskar! Har kollat på labgruppen också. Är flera som rekomenderat dom. Däremot kommer jag nog inte köra tre st pd1850 nån gång, varken på en eller två kanaler. Tror att två st hoggor med 1850 kommer pusha ganska mycket bas ändå och dom ställen vi spelar på kommer inte tillåta eller behöva mer bas än så. Enda anledningen till att jag skulle kunna tänka mig köra fler hoggor är för att det ser jävla ballt ut. haha. //Tuff |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 3:21pm
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Var det med 3x PD1850 per kanal? Jag vet att FP13000 kan göra det, eftersom jag har sett FP13000 chines kopian göra det ... LOL .. Skulle behöva brandsläckare om du försöker att göra det med Matrix lätta .. LOL .. [/QUOTE] Ja det var 3 per kanal, vi gör det också med 3V18-1000 per kanal i hogs körde dem för 4days på Roskilde festivalen, se något labb över 6400 kommer att göra jobbet, lol Lev nu är du blir bättre på danska och svenska Lol kommer du upp snart hehehe  ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: Sinfinity
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 4:01pm
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Please accept my apologies. I shall call you this evening sir. Best regards Matt ------------- Matt at ukamp dot co dot uk |