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Topic: Finished Testing new system
Posted By: Edd Jordan
Subject: Finished Testing new system
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 9:25pm

Finally got round to testing the system at new years.

2 x dual loaded 6" mid range drivers 1" comp tops  fane sov range)  Xover at 18khz to 160hz
2 x dual loaded 12" sub drivers (BMS 12"630s) Xover at 160hz to 30hz

The system was run off 2 Crown amps a 602xl for the tops and a xls5000 fo the bass cabs
Crossed over with a DB mark Processor 2x6 

the room we were in was small about 7 x 7 metres so the system need a bit of EQing to lose colouration from the raised wooden floor and the reflection from the low ceiling. The top cabs did,nt have the low end crossover to the bass cabs as i would have hoped because of them being in free air on top of the poles. but they didn't need to. the bass bins where so accurate up to 200hz they easily covered the lack of low hz on the tops  

Tony Wilkes gave me the plans for the bins and i have to say they where incredible once we had the system EQed and our small glitch sorted.We turned it up the first time a bit to get a idea what we where dealing with. it was a bit disappointing to be honest it sounded ok, but not as loud as we hoped at this level. We did a bit of tweaking and found out that the Mackie mixing desk that my mates had for years (ever since i met him). Was being a bit optimistic with what it was reading on the output we double checked it on the dbmark and it wasn't putting out the right input (about -6db). that adjusted and using 2 new channel strips we turn the system back up and started the workout and my god it was good. we started with some cds bjork,katebush,pixies then onto some pealjam tweaking a tiny bit here and there to get the best compromise for all types of music. then some electro,dance,dub step and glitch hop.

We wher'nt disappointed the bass bins where amazing when fed some serious power. they had great attack without sounding harsh, and the bass extension was so tight and low! 
the top cabs where tight allso. i had been worried that they wouldn't keep up with bins output. But they did and without sounding harsh or over run. the whole system sound fantastic very please!
the system could be turned up to nearly full power and you could still hear all the definition and could really feel the bass in your chest! so much bass in fact the ceiling cracked.
 
After it had been run in for 3 days it just got better and better.

Thanks to Tony and all the help i have gotten off this site over the years it has been invauable 

Here's some photos for you who have just struggled though all that.


Recording the mixes.


Plugs for the amps

The booth 


one stack so small but so loud!



And finally that time of the morning , DJ Go home!






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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.



Replies:
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 9:42pm
ClapClapClap

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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 9:57pm
Cheers. 

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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: Ryan94
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 10:31pm
Looking good mate, how much was the crossover and where did you get it from?


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 10:36pm
Cheers talk to Tony Wilkes thats who i got it from.

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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 11:01pm
Most Mackie Desks have a switch on the back that switches from -10 to +4db I think. I know that my 2 do. Always catch me out too lol. +4db is the right setting.


Posted By: SYG Media
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 11:35pm
be careful with the xls range on any sub duty. A wet fart has got better damping factor and they will rinse drivers if pushed slightly too hard.

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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 11:38pm
its a mackie cfx12 (original so no switch) and its old,and has odd quirks. still sounds allright. just needed a bit of tweaking. 

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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 11:40pm
Originally posted by SYG Media SYG Media wrote:

be careful with the xls range on any sub duty. A wet fart has got better damping factor and they will rinse drivers if pushed slightly too hard.

No worries with these bass bins they need a lot of power. i was recommended 2000watts a bin. and we never feed a clipping signal into our amps. 

Cheers for the advice though.


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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: GregM
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 8:03pm
Edd,
 
Are those bins the ones you were cutting the timber for when I collected that HH amp from you in the summer? - if so they've turned out proper minty, you must be really chuffed.
 
Greg


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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by GregM GregM wrote:

Edd,
 
Are those bins the ones you were cutting the timber for when I collected that HH amp from you in the summer? - if so they've turned out proper minty, you must be really chuffed.
 
Greg

Yep there the ones they are awesome how did that gig go with the H&H ? moving onto new year projects now. Thumbs Up




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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: Risc_Terilia
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 9:12pm
What's the need for all the tape on the plug?


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 9:15pm
We had about 14 people in and out of the room all night, and the taped up plug is for the amps and the one next to it was a storage heater so didnt want a drunk person turning it off even though we told people not to. just making sure.

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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: GregM
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 9:53pm
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Yep there the ones they are awesome how did that gig go with the H&H ? moving onto new year projects now. Thumbs Up
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Edd, All good with the HH - had 4 of them racked up and humming away at a new year bash in the West Country - didn't skip a beat (apart from the annoying clip led's).
 
Looking forward to following your new year projects  
 
Greg


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Posted By: kevinmcdonough
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 10:45pm
Originally posted by Edd Jordan Edd Jordan wrote:

Cheers talk to Tony Wilkes thats who i got it from.



hey

just a second shout for the crossover, they're being imported by Tony W PM him. I had one on trial for a while and while i've been pulled away from sound system work lately with renovating my new house, i fully intent to purchase one from him in the near future they sound great and are rediculously good value for the money, particuluarly the 4in 8out version. Clap

k


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 11:22pm
Yeh they are great processors, i love mine it so easy to use with the laptop. top processor sound great to! 

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I do a sideline in ply wood wheels.


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 2:32am
Originally posted by GregM GregM wrote:

Yep there the ones they are awesome how did that gig go with the H&H ? moving onto new year projects now. Thumbs Up
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Edd, All good with the HH - had 4 of them racked up and humming away at a new year bash in the West Country - didn't skip a beat (apart from the annoying clip led's).
 
Looking forward to following your new year projects  
 
Greg
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Yeh me too got some other things to get done first (more speakers) but then i can get going. 2 more bass bins and some larger tops me thinks. i realy want to build a tapped horn too but we will see.

Hope you get the leds sorted mate.






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