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Topic: Advice on Midtops for Turbosound Bins
Posted By: Caine
Subject: Advice on Midtops for Turbosound Bins
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 9:59pm
Hi all was wondering if i could ask some advice, Have recently been thrust into the soundsystem world by a friend who decided to take the plunge on a almost complete rig. So i apologise rather wet round the ears.
We have 4 THL 828 bins and 2 TSW 718 bins and are wondering what midtops would anyone recommend to complete the rig.
As i said i'm new to all this so i'm unsure about what we have would work bins wise also.
Just need some help really!

Thanks




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Posted By: backl/ash
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 10:15pm
Hi I have a lovely pair TurboSound floodlight TFL760h would work very wellWink there in the for sale section. 

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Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 10:18pm
Damn i'd love them floods backlash....wish i had the cash as someone will get a bargain...

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Posted By: Caine
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 10:21pm
Same here!


Posted By: AM55
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 10:50pm
Floodlight would be a perfect match. Stick to either 1 type of bass bins or the other. 

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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 24 January 2012 at 11:46pm
Originally posted by AM55 AM55 wrote:

Floodlight would be a perfect match. Stick to either 1 type of bass bins or the other. 
Nah, flood doesn't work well 4way, run the whole job 5 way, sub the 718s and run the THLs out to meet the floods @ 180.....
 
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Posted By: AM55
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:02am
I thought 718s don't do much below 50Hz.

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Posted By: Caine
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 6:30am
Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

Originally posted by AM55 AM55 wrote:

Floodlight would be a perfect match. Stick to either 1 type of bass bins or the other. 
Nah, flood doesn't work well 4way, run the whole job 5 way, sub the 718s and run the THLs out to meet the floods @ 180.....
 
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How do you mean run it 5 way, as i said very wet round the ears with all this.
ThanksEmbarrassed


Posted By: mashgwan
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 8:09am
flood light all the way i reckon, not only will you keep all your system turbo but for the price i don't reckon you could much better tops,
run them from around 200hz upwards
 
also aren't the 718's and the 828 very similar inside as they are both turbosound bph


Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 10:26am
Originally posted by AM55 AM55 wrote:

I thought 718s don't do much below 50Hz.
 

If you run them in a tighter bracket they are more convincing, say 30-90 you will get a lot of energy out of them, not ideal but just a way of using what the guy had, obviously a FK 221 would be nicer but......



Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 10:32am
Originally posted by mashgwan mashgwan wrote:

flood light all the way i reckon, not only will you keep all your system turbo but for the price i don't reckon you could much better tops,
run them from around 200hz upwards
 
also aren't the 718's and the 828 very similar inside as they are both turbosound bph
I don't know about the 828s but a 718 is not really in it's happy zone @ 200Hz TBH if the 12" on the flood would do it I'd drop below the recommened 180, but with a 718 running 30-90, a pair of 828 running 60-180 and then some floods on top you should have a pretty deep, very punch stack....
 
And it will be a good height unlike a flood on a 718 which isn't quite hi enough...
 
I did build a load of little risers to raise and angle floods on 718 which have been shown on here a few times that work well, but another bin works better!!!
 
Smile


Posted By: AM55
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 10:59am
Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

but with a 718 running 30-90, a pair of 828 running 60-180 and then some floods on top you should have a pretty deep, very punch stack....
 
 
Fair enough but if I was spending my money on branded kit I would want it all matching. Also 1 way bass makes things simpler and will still do a good job.
 
What ever you do Caine you shouldn't have different bass bins running the same frequency's.


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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 11:09am
I have never heard a convincing 1 way low-end solution for these cabs, nothing running out to 180 seems to sound solid at low-end to me...
 
3 x 718 with 1 as kick and 2 running low work fine, as for frequecy overlap, the floods do it, the TMS do it, as long as you have time alignment there is no issue..
 
6 718s may play lo enough for a single band solution but really, that a HUGE stack just to aviod running a 5th band in....
 
 


Posted By: tcourtneyvincent
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 11:10am
When they say 5way, they mean the frequency that each different speaker plays.
If the system is running 5way then it would mean something like this-
Subs, 20-90hz
Kicks, 90-180hz
Low/Mids, 180-1khz
Mid/Tops, 1khz-7khz
Tops, 7khz-20khz

or three way would be something like this

Subs, 20-180hz
Mids, 180-2.5khz
Tops, 2.5khz-20khz


Posted By: mashgwan
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

Originally posted by mashgwan mashgwan wrote:

flood light all the way i reckon, not only will you keep all your system turbo but for the price i don't reckon you could much better tops,
run them from around 200hz upwards
 
also aren't the 718's and the 828 very similar inside as they are both turbosound bph
I don't know about the 828s but a 718 is not really in it's happy zone @ 200Hz TBH if the 12" on the flood would do it I'd drop below the recommened 180, but with a 718 running 30-90, a pair of 828 running 60-180 and then some floods on top you should have a pretty deep, very punch stack....
 
And it will be a good height unlike a flood on a 718 which isn't quite hi enough...
 
I did build a load of little risers to raise and angle floods on 718 which have been shown on here a few times that work well, but another bin works better!!!
 
Smile
did you sell those risers to KSS


Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:07pm
Kinda, they paid me to design and make them....
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Posted By: mashgwan
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:11pm
its a small world as our soundsytem now own 4 of KSS old floodlights and 4 of the said risers


Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by mashgwan mashgwan wrote:

its a small world as our soundsytem now own 4 of KSS old floodlights and 4 of the said risers
Small world indeed, you like??
 
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Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:31pm

I did a show NYE in a Shoreditch secret warehouse and the folk in the venue next door had 718's with floods on risers, was that you. ?
 


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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:42pm
I think that was the show they were made for, a mate of mine know the KSS guys and I was talking about some "book ends" Turbo R & D made up for the original Floodlight demo, he asked if I could copy them from memory and I agreed, then when he anounced KSS had trap not tour-pack floods I whipped those up, seemed to work well when I test them, never got to hear them used in anger they where white-wood, un-filled when I saw them last but from the pics on here they did a decent job sanding and painting them...Smile


Posted By: mashgwan
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 1:42pm
wasn't us,
heres our floods and risers ontop of 8 es18's
 
were generally really happy with the risers, we are going to modify them slighly so that we can strap them in an array a bit better
 
 
 


Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 2:27pm
Sorry OP drifting off topic..

The risers I saw on NYE were more like an open frame no panels

the others were years back in the Rocket (but we have had this conversation) 

OP.

sort the bass out you could sell the Hilites buy more 718's or four tsw21's .

Top boxes best bang per buck for now are Turbosound floodlight or if budget allows Fk1 Res4 skellies.

 



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Posted By: Caine
Date Posted: 25 January 2012 at 5:37pm
Thanks for your help guys it's all starting to make sense to me now. Smile



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