scoop compatible drivers...
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Topic: scoop compatible drivers...
Posted By: RealitySound
Subject: scoop compatible drivers...
Date Posted: 25 March 2012 at 11:15pm
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Found this by mistake. Don't know how accurate the list is but I'm sure others on here can add subtract to this list; It was made in '2004. Found it on dancehallreggae.com forum.- http://forum.dancehallreggae.com/archive/index.php/t-32236.html?s=8b398c52a449d83d54e2d67338b8cc81 Here is a list of 18 inch tranducers that will give you the best performance when using Scoops/Rear Loaded Horns & Earthquakes/Folded Horns Note: These are current models, and, you can contact me if you have a question regarding an older model. Cerwin Vega’s can be found used on Ebay Aura {Seismic} 1808 B&C 18 TBX 46 B&C 18 WB 46 Celestion Frontline 18 Cerwin Vega 188 EB Cerwin Vega 189 ES Cerwin Vega 189 JE {4 ohm} Cerwin Vega 189 SE Cerwin Vega 18S4 {4 ohm} Cerwin Vega 18S8 Eminence Magnum 18 HO Eminence Sigma Pro 18 Eminence Omega 18 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 800 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1000 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1250 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1400 Electrovoice EVX 180 B Fane Colossus 18B 600 JBL 2242 McCauley 6256 North Creek Leviton P Audio C 18 600 LF P Audio C 18 650 EL P Audio E 18 300A P Audio E 18 600A P Audio IMF 18W P Audio R 18 100B P Audio R 18 76W P Audio SD 18 PAS LX 2800 Precision Devices PD 1850 Precision Devices PD 186 Precision Devices PD 184 Precision Devices PD 182 RCF L 18P 200 RCF Precision 18 G 400 Transparence 18 B 800 Void Acoustics V 18 1000 Its in alphabetical order. Be nice if we could arrange it into best-worst. Bless. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 12:52am
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I don't know about the rest, but the B and C 's are old models. Even in the 2008 cat. it shows the updated version of the TBX46 which is the TBX100. In the Archive section of the latest cat, it shows the TBX46 out of production. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 1:19am
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Cheers Tony,I realized that too. I have a TBX46, what is your opinion on it? Ok for scoops? Is the tbx100 alot better than it?
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:07am
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If anything, it will have better glue technology and a better frame for heatsinking. Overall, it can't be too much different, sound will be similar but it does handle more power. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: hmaudio
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 11:07am
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does anyone no how well the tbx 46/100 will handle in an Ms-18? and if so what Mk would be best? thanks Adam ------------- Nottingham based cab builder. https://www.facebook.com/HMAudio-154352667920145/?ref=bookmarks This account is used by 2 people. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 11:33am
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 3:05pm
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Fane
------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE 
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Posted By: UpComingSound
Date Posted: 26 March 2012 at 3:33pm
| have any one ever put wood in front of the scoop woofer seal it in to make it a full folden horn? would it work ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 2:36am
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Alright, can we get back to putting this list together so that it can be of some help to people on here? Maybe in order of best to worst with some prices. Some of us on here can't afford $1000 neos and would be happy to use a 'decent' inexpensive driver until we win the lotto. Or maybe it would be better to keep it in alphabetical order and give it a +number rating. +10 being the best etc. or +8 power handling, +6 performance in scoops etc. Aura {Seismic} 1808 B&C 18 TBX100- (Q331.50/ $340) http://www.usspeaker.com/B&C-18TBX100-1.htm Celestion Frontline 18- ($380) http://www.hollywooddj.com/cefr.html Cerwin Vega 188 EB Cerwin Vega 189 ES Cerwin Vega 189 JE {4 ohm} Cerwin Vega 189 SE Cerwin Vega 18S4 {4 ohm} Cerwin Vega 18S8 Eminence Magnum 18 HO- discontinued- http://www.eliminatorlightingdirect.com/EMINENCE_MAGNUM_18HO_18_HIGH_OUTPUT_DRIVER_p/290-586.htm Eminence Sigma Pro 18- ($170) http://www.usspeaker.com/eminence%2018-1.htm Eminence Omega 18 ($200) http://www.usspeaker.com/eminence%2018-1.htm Eighteen Sound 18 LW 800 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1000 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1250 Eighteen Sound 18 LW 1400 Electrovoice EVX 180 B Fane Colossus 18B 600 JBL 2242 McCauley 6256 North Creek Leviton P Audio C 18 600 LF P Audio C 18 650 EL P Audio E 18 300A P Audio E 18 600A P Audio IMF 18W P Audio R 18 100B P Audio R 18 76W P Audio SD 18 PAS LX 2800 Precision Devices PD 1850 Precision Devices PD 186 Precision Devices PD 184 Precision Devices PD 182 RCF L 18P 200 RCF Precision 18 G 400 Transparence 18 B 800 Void Acoustics V 18 1000 Feel free to comtribute to the list or add subtract from it etc. Bless. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 29 March 2012 at 2:38am
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contribute rather.. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 2:01am
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Does anyone have an opinion on or have any experience with the Eminence Omega 18? in a scoop?; Specifications: *Power handling: 800 watts RMS/1,600 watts max *VCdia: 4" *Le: 1.67 mH *Impedance: 8 ohms *Re: 5.2 ohms *Frequency range: 40-800 Hz *Magnet weight: 109 oz. *Fs: 25 Hz *SPL: 97 dB 1W/1m *Vas: 19.4 cu. ft. *Qms: 8.18 *Qes: 0.32 *Qts: 0.31 *Xmax: 4.8 mm *Dimensions: Overall Diameter: 18", Cutout Diameter: 16.56", Mounting Depth: 8.15". ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 2:45am
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 8:49am
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Just out of interest,has anyone ever put an Eminence driver successfully in a scoop? Ditto what Lev says about the cerwins,most in that list are very old,the 189 must be 25+years old now,3 inch coil,paper cone,and only 400w...probually fine for a vintage sound,but you wouldnt want to use it in anger. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 26 April 2012 at 10:42am
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: UpComingSound
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 6:06pm
any one know about then new B&C drivers
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 6:13pm
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 6:41pm
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nothing wrong with Emimence drivers in scoops sigma n omega thay work well. I sometimes still use them .still got well old pair a scoops with emmys horses fi courses if you ent tearing down the walls of babylon.there allright..  ..come on man i memba using 400w drivers n still rumbling places..sometimes we haffi tek a step back...still respects to all...its not allways bout power power power...
------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 7:04pm
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 7:31pm
now he earns bear moneys man..dont get mi wrong man we do it fi the love man .. ..he dont need pd fane 1500 celstion ect ect ..sometimes we wraped up inna the big sound dem an earn f---k all ..respeck evertytime mi bredren.. ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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levyte357 wrote:
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 27 April 2012 at 11:52pm
------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: Ras Loud
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 12:34am
Now I know what that is. I thought that thing was just there to protect the cone. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 2:09am
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Originally wasn't the whole reasoning behind building big horn type boxes to get maximum sound out of crap low output drivers? ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 2:15am
man-cave/basement - think I'll start work on building myself a man-cave... Im sure thats what is missing in my life ------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 28 April 2012 at 2:32am
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Totally. Every man should have one.
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:02pm
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Void drivers in the UK cost approx 192-220 pounds ( 310-350$US) 4 shipped to me costs approx $700. Add it all up and they cost $525 each when I get them. Its 200$ more to ship 4 drivers from the UK than the US. So to all the americans on here- If you were to order 4 direct from void (192 pounds)(310ish USD) by the time it reaches New Jersey They will be about $450 USD each. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:54pm
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:18am
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Thanks Lev, but I honestly don't think I'll ever pay over $600 for a driver. Void looks good to me, and so similar to PD already.
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:26am
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:48am
VOID PD1850 PV-LOWMAX B&C.TBX100 FP18HP1020 FP18XL1600 FANE.COL-1500 XMAX 7mm+ 10.5 11.25 8.25 9 9.5 13 12.75 BL 24+ 34.8 31 25 25.5 27.2 28.1 32.74 QES .35- .22 .22 .33 .37 .29 .37 .26 QTS .35- .22 .21 .32 .35 .28 .36 .25 VAS 360- 201 249 295 212 219 195.5 175 FS 35hz- 34 30 33.5 34 35 32 33.5 FP is Faital Pro. Forget all Peavey drivers but the lowmax.  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 2:27am
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edited ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:29am
| how no 18sound in the mix |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:51pm
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No worries Jason, never said the list was finished. Probably add em tonight. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 1:01pm
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 1:52pm
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Noted.
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: catman int
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 2:41pm
| Since when eminence kilomax became a scoop driver? |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 2:51pm
 and also i seen many a soundsystem got/had emmys kilo in scoops , maybe you can get away with it by have a large chamber scoop??? who knows??
------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 2:54pm
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put any emi in a large chamber scoop and have your recone money at hand
------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 2:56pm
so can you get away with using a kilo max inna scoop?? then??
------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: catman int
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:26pm
| Go to eminence website and see what they say about the kilomax,alot of guys on this site be talking some crazy things like they know everything about sound,but the are so lost ,big up MYKEY,ROG,TONY A.S.S,LEV,MOST OF THE REST CLUELESS. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:37pm
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TO BE CLEAR- The Drivers in GREEN seem to meet the parameters. I added other drivers- who others on this forum have tried in scoops. They would be the drivers Written in BLACK with the RED font where it falls outside the suggested parameters. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:58pm
 Never claimed to know everything about anything in regards to scoops and or drivers for them. Merely trying to help all the members on here choose wisely as information on the drivers suggests. I accept any criticism from any members to modify and change the list and it is open for anyone to add to it or subtract from it. THIS IS WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR- ISN"T IT? EXCHANGING INFORMATION? HELPING EACH OTHER? Excuse my rant, maybe I should have been more clear. Maybe I should change the name of the list to Drivers/Woofers- Scoop compatible or not? ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 4:04pm
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bump ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 5:54pm
you mentioned large chamber scoop. the only drivers that seem to work in large chamber scoops are high powered drivers such as void, pd1850, 51, tmax, fane1500 etc. eminence drivers cant handle any power at all, and will over excursion way before you get any real levels if you put them in a large chamber scoop. but tight chamber scoops some emi drivers work fine. ive had and used some, 15" and 18". if that guy is refferin to me not knowin what im talkin about ask him why eminence design scoop is tight chamber and not large chamber then if large chamber suits emi drivers. ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 5:59pm
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PD186!
------------- Support the scoop technology, larger mouth plays louder! |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 6:02pm
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EDITED ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Preacher
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 8:07pm
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I remember Rog saying one time that Kilomax was only good for a large reflex box. I remember when they first hit the market, mate of mine with some tubbys scoops went and got a load and fitted them, they did one gig and he sent them back! lol. As for the list, it deffo needs to have Fane Colossus XB's on it, proven small chamber scoop driver  ------------- Stone Lion Sound System, The Garden City Rockers. It's all about the music & the vibe. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:45pm
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SCOOP COMPATIBLE OR NOT? LIST SO FAR....... XMAX(7+)/ BL(24+)/ QES(-.35)/ QTS (-.35)/ VAS(-360)/FS(-35)/ RMS/GBP/USD (18sound) 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W $360 18NLW9600 14 30 .29 .28 149 34 1800W $700 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W $500 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W $300 B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W $316 Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W $380 Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W $390 Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W $460 Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W $630 Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W $700 CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W 330Q/$535 Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W $305 Em Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W $300 Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W $200 Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W $170 EV-EVX180B 6.4 22.5 .29 .27 416 29 600W FaitalPro18hp1020 9.5 27.2 .29 .28 219 35 1000W $400 FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W $600 FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W365Q/$590 FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W $370 FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W $290 FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W $300 JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W $700 PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W $310 RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $435 RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $370 RCF,L18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W $365 RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $500 Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W Driver names in Blue are Lev recommended, Green are good, Red shows where the parameters have fallen outside the general requirements a bit, (but driver will still work ok)-. Purple is 'close enough' I will add to the list as time allows. Anyone with knowledge on drivers- pass it on. 
If there are any drivers on here that are COMPLETELY incompatible with a
scoop, then let me know, or copy and paste the list and take it off
yourself, or if there are any drivers that should be on here let me
know, or add them yourself.BLESS. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:49pm
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Lev (or anyone) 1/ Should the B&CTBX100 'go green" ?its only .02 off QES and its a proven driver 2/Also the RCF,L18P300 is only off 0.5 of the BL. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: SBC
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:57pm
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getting too technical... get a driver and listen to it. that colour coded list is just not right since PD186 and Fane XB have come up red...  ------------- F.T.S.S. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:02am
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Only going by Lev's Guidelines.- Here's quick way to choose decent "ferrite" scoop driver for scoop. Ignore manufacturer's sensitivity figure, only consider reference efficiency, expressed as figure between 1.8 - 4.0. Forget all Eminence, Paudio, Cerwin Vega, Peavey drivers Forget all drivers where Xmax < 7mm Forget all drivers with VC diam < 4" Forget all drivers where ref efficiency (no) < 1.8 Forget all drivers with BL < 24 (Except PD186), or Qes > 0.35, or Qts > 0.35, or Vas > 360, or Fs > 35hz Its not engraved into stone, and everyone is entitled to there own opinions. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:24am
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EDITED: ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:26am
I guess I'll leave it just how it is then.
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:55am
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As this is gonna end up as a long-lived thread (at least I'd hope) it does seem a shame to call up some arbitary list where known good sounding and in my experience bloody loud drivers are excluded like the Fane Xb and PD186 (as Saul pointed out) just for the sake of fitting some silly made up rules. Most of the scoop rigs I have ever heard loaded with the big man drivers sounded worse than those with some of the ones which 'don't work' according to this list. They probably weren't as loud but, lets remember SPL is more important than a nice sound. ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:06am
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I think that's what this thread is all about. I think some drivers might sound great, but then others might sound awesome, others brutal. All depends what your looking for and what your willing to pay, and what kind of scoop your dropping it in. I think Lev's guidelines for the list (correct me if I'm wrong) are more for Brutal SPL. If u simply must BLOW the other sound away. The Fane XB was only .08 off. I mean really. Wouldn't stop me from buying one. A good driver by any means. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:30am
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Maybe I should delete my "suggestions" then, and RealitySounds, maybe you should delete all your lists, and people can just buy whatever driver, the various salesmen here are ramming down peoples throats, because they are getting trade deals on them, as opposed to being what people need. Then wonder why it sounded crap in their scoop just before blowing. Or why another sound can batter them with half as many scoops. People keep telling me to keep stuff to myself, and I'm now seeing why. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:41am
I dunno. I mean there are members on here who have playing sound with scoops for years, and newbies who want to try their hand at building some scoops. I initially started this thread to help people who haven't a clue on which driver to buy, as I once was. I wish this thread was up a year or two ago when I was trying to get 'orange juice- squeezing some lemons.' Dropping complete wrong crap drivers in good scoop designs and getting crap out and wondering why. So if this thread helps anyone then it was worth starting.  ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:50am
When trying to help people results in headache, insults, stress, time to excuse yourself, and let people find things out the expensive way on their own. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:55am
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Some of us on here appreciate the advice!
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: DiscernAudio
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 8:49pm
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Thinking about building some scoops. Should I focus on Rogs design or are there some others to pay attention to? |
Posted By: Prince Zahir
Date Posted: 11 May 2012 at 9:06pm
| Lev....ur insight is appreciloved so dont let this stop u from helping people who really seek it. |
Posted By: ILuvDub
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 4:44pm
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 12 May 2012 at 5:04pm
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Brush it off Lev! ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: shockwavesoundz
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:06pm
| Im located in Barbados and down here we don't have access to alot of the stuff that i see being mentioned on this site....we have speaker brands such as eminence, peavey, jbl and selenium. I think that basically named all that we get here....in a case like that what road should i take regarding good subs....i currently own 8 scoops loaded with eminence omega pros.....im not familiar with specs and stuff relating to the speaker/ box parameters but most people i know with some good sound systems down here just build boxes and load up.....any input would be appreciated. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 1:29am
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Link goldentouch. He's a member on here and he is a woofer dealer outta Florida. I'm sure he can hook you up a deal on some decent drivers. 18 sound and such.
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: shockwavesoundz
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 6:49am
| ok thanks...i'll link him. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 12:43am
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Surely there must be some more drivers to add....anyone?
------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 02 June 2012 at 1:55am
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SCOOP COMPATIBLE OR NOT? LIST SO FAR....... XMAX(7+)/ BL(24+)/ QES(-.35)/ QTS (-.35)/ VAS(-360)/FS(-35)/ RMS/GBP/USD (18sound) 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W $300 18LW1250 9 23.6 .28 .27 268 35 1000W ? 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W $360 18LW2400 9.5 25.6 .32 .31 230 35 1200W $330 18W2000 7 27.1 .26 .25 230 37 1200W 240E 18NLW9000 14 27 .32 .31 206 34 1800W 380P 18NLW9600 14 30 .29 .28 149 34 1800W $700 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W $500 18NLW9400 9.5 26 .28 .26 268 33 1200W B&C TBX-46 9 25.8 .33 .31 227 34 1000Wdiscontinued B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W $316 B&C18PZB100 8 26 .25 .24 297 30 700W $315 B&C18NW100 9 28 .27 .26 252 31 1200W $400+ B&C18SW115 14 30.3 .32 .3 187 32 1700W $582 Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W $380 Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W $390 Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W $460 Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W $630 Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W $700 BMS18S430v2 8 23.5 .36 .34 262 31 1200W 304E BMS18N850v2 13 26.2 .36 .34 247 29.7 1200W 405Q CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W 330Q/$535 CelestionFTR184080 6 22.88 .29 .27 395 26 1000W $250 Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W $305 Em Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W $300 Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W $200 Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W $170 EV-EVX180B 6.4 22.5 .29 .27 416 29 600W $535 FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W $600 FP18HP1020 9.5 28 .28 .27 207 35 1000W $400 FP18HP1040 9.5 24.5 .35 .34 196 38 1000W $400 FP18HP1060 12.45 24.8 .38 .37 175 35 1200W $450 FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W365Q/$590 FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W $370 FaneCol18B 4 29.5 .207 .197 320 30.5 400W ? FaneCol18B600 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 29 600W FaneCol18B800 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 32 800W FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W $290 FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W Q197$300 JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W $700 P-AudioSD18-1700N 7.5 33.7 .39 .38 88.6 44 1700W P AudioSD18 5 35.8 .27 .26 264 33 800W PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W Q335 PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W Q359 PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W Q193 PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W $368 PeaveyLowRider 9.6 22.17 .356 .342 288 28.9 800W $205 Radian2218NEO 21.3 29.85 .283 .257 329.4 31.4 1300W $800 RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $435 RCF LF18X451 13.5 30.5 .29 .28 220 30 1800W $500 RCF LF18N451 8.8 30.2 .25 .24 245 31 1500W RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $500 RCF,L18p200-N 9.8 23.1 .32 .31 380 28 800W $365 RCF,L18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W $390 RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $370 RCF LF18N401 8.8 27.8 .27 .26 257 32 1200W $410 TC.SoundsLmsUltra5400 38.1 26.8 .34 .33 240.7 20.5 2000W TC PRO 5100 31 .25 .25 251 26.5 1000W $1290 Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W Q320 Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W Q300 TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W Q227 VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W Q235 Wembly B Line 10 24.17 .26 .24 412 25 800W Driver names in Blue tried & tested, Green are good, Red shows where the parameters have fallen outside the general requirements a bit,..but driver will still work fine, just not as great as the others (green) for max spl. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on how certain drivers sound in certain scoops,...so to each their own, horses for courses etc. Purple is 'close enough' I will add to the list as time allows. Anyone with knowledge on particular drivers, or personal experience with a specific drivers performance in a particular scoop- pass it on.
If there are any drivers that should be on here, let me know. This is a GUIDE. Nothing engraved in stone.------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 14 July 2012 at 3:36pm
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Added some more Fane & RCF drivers.
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Posted By: DJ Maestro
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 7:18am
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Hi there, Can i use peavey low rider in scoop or folded horn cabs.. these are the specs:
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 3:29pm
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The BL is a little low for high power tight throat conditions.
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Posted By: DJ Maestro
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 6:00pm
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@Reality thanx for replying so fast, keep up the good work man. can i use this one? Eros E-818 800w rms 8ohm sds (this is brasilian made)
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Posted By: DJ Maestro
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 6:07pm
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The country where i living, we have more speakers from china, brands like CBU and SANDY...or Zebra, Eros, selenium and peavey, soundbarrier etc.. i want make 4 horn loaded/scoop cab but really don't know what driver to chose...all information is welcome..... Thanx |
Posted By: JahMic
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 5:06pm
| So did you test any of the driver out yet in the lev scoop? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 23 September 2012 at 7:02pm
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Haha, not touching that one. The LevRS-Scoop thread has been 'frozen' for a reason. However there will be numerous testing on numerous drivers in the Hog, and a couple other scoops throughout the next month as time allows. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: JahMic
Date Posted: 14 October 2012 at 6:38am
| Ok. Can you PM how the faital pro 1020 did verses the B&c tbx100 |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 14 October 2012 at 5:20pm
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I don't have a TBX100, I have the TBX46 which is an older model but quite similar. Honestly I love the sound of the TBX, and haven't played around with the FP1020 enough to create any opinion on it yet, Or one vs the other etc. I must admit when I took it out of the box it was so light it felt like a toy. (Have trouble believing it could take 1KW without catching on fire) I'm afraid work and life in general is getting in the way of scoop experiments right now, but will post with progress as time allows.
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Posted By: DiscernAudio
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 7:28pm
| Is this list for a particular scoop? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 9:05pm
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No..............., more of a guide for scoops/rear loaded folded horns in general.
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Posted By: DiscernAudio
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 9:50pm
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it would be cool to determine which parameter values work well for different scoops. For instance, we know driver A and B work well in hog, and drivers C and D work well in Super, etc. Do you have this in an excel file?
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 20 October 2012 at 2:49am
I agree. Only thing is some people prefer the sound of 'driver A' in cabinet Z and others like driver B in it better. So it is true that the parameters do influence the sound in different designs of scoops, size of rear chambers etc. but alot is what sound you like and what result you are looking for. Raw SPL? Musicality? Long throw? Short? etc etc. To quote Rog- Its all about matching the compliance with the front chamber. Large compliance woofers work well with larger front chambers and will play lower, but will not be as loud as low compliance woofers in scoops with smaller front chambers. These scoops will not play as low but will be loud, hard and in ya face. All depends on how many scoops you are going to use. If its only ever 3 or 4 in a stack then go with a larger front chamber and high compliance woofer. If you always use 6 or more in a stack then use a small front chamber with low compliance woofer as having a lot of scoops will slow down the transient response and drop the high corner frequency. So scoops that are a bit too fast and play high well are the ones you need if you plan on using lots all the time. Another rule of thumb with scoops and compliance is try to make the front chamber 4 times less than the Vas. So if the woofer has a Vas of 200 litres then make the front chamber 50 litres. Woofers with a high Vas of around 400 need a front chamber of around 100 litres to work well. The problem with large front chambers is that the horn path is shorter for a given cabinet size. This tends to make the woofer uncouple at a higher frequency and thorw will not be as far as with a small front chamber longer horn. Also try and aim for a driver resonance 3 to 4Hz lower than the 1/4wl tuning of the horn. This will add a bit of reactance and add a small amount of gain around the cutoff. But at the expense of a steeper rolloff. No excel, sorry. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: DiscernAudio
Date Posted: 01 November 2012 at 5:09pm
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thoughts on the B&C 18pzb100 in a super?? i know it falls within the params, but maybe someone can help read a little deeper
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Posted By: DiscernAudio
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 4:03am
Thanks for that, where can I find more info of this nature??? The reason I ask is that Im looking to design some scoops for some easily-available, US market drivers; B&C, Celestion,(others?) |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 6:22am
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PM'd ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 25 January 2013 at 12:04am
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Did anyone try that rcf lf18lx451? Looks sweet to me I have 4 pcs of the lf18n451, they do the best job of all the drivers i tried in my hybrid horns, pd.1850 is quite equal but has a harder sound and won't take as much beating as the rcf according to the specs. I'm not sure about rms ratings, for instance a pd.1850 easily beats l18p300 1000w and 18b800w, but this all depends on the cabs too i know... Oups Sorry for running a bit off topic here. |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 25 January 2013 at 12:33am
Lets see a pic of the hybrid horn ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 25 January 2013 at 12:41am
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This is not facebook:-) Here's the plan: http://www.groundsound.com/Loudspeakers/GroundSound%20950%20x%201000%20horn.pdf Perhaps you can even "like" it with that facebookbutton in the bottom  |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 10:13pm
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Yesterday I just heard 4 scoops loaded with brand new lfx401, they did a good job but damn why didn't he buy the lf18x451:-( |
Posted By: t.geessounds
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 11:31pm
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tbx or pzb 100 which one would u guys go with???? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 11:35pm
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B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W $316 B&C18PZB100 8 26 .25 .24 297 30 700W $315 I would have said the zb100 definately until I saw the power handling. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: Ras Loud
Date Posted: 27 January 2013 at 11:37pm
Maybe because 1800 W AES is much more than needed for a scoop? |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 28 January 2013 at 1:38am
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how much is "needed" for a scoop? some say 400W, others 800W, even 1.2kW - 1.6kW.. depends on what you are after i would say... TV00 you have anything to do with Dandelion? Ras where you from? Seen your posts on Rootssound aswell.. |
Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 14 February 2013 at 6:38pm
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I made a quick search on the forum and over this post but there is no mention about EBP, I know thats just a relationship between two factors allready given ( Fs/Qes), but I'd like to understand how much, and also how in comparision with the rest of the given parameters of a speaker is important for having aggressive or sounding response for a driver loaded in a super...
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 14 February 2013 at 9:53pm
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HERE IS A FEW DRIVERS WHERE I WORKED OUT THE EBP FOR THE 1850/186 HORN,........ SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHIME IN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION........ quote from 1850 plan- "PD 1850 and other drivers with an EBP over 125 and BL's over 28. For drivers with EBP's around 110 or lower use the 186 horn." Green is somewhere in between. Brown have the high EBP, but the BL is less than 28. XMAX/ BL / QES / QTS / VAS /FS / RMS/ EBP (18sound) 18LW2400 9.5 25.6 .32 .31 230 35 1200W 109.4 18W2000 7 27.1 .26 .25 230 37 1200W 142.3 18NLW9600 14 30 .29 .28 149 34 1800W 117.2 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W 145 18LW1250 9 23.6 .28 .27 268 35 1000W 134.6 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W 100 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W 103.4 B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W 91.8 B&C18PZB100 8 26 .25 .24 297 30 700W 120 B&C18NW100 9 28 .27 .26 252 31 1200W 114 B&C18SW115 14 30.3 .32 .3 187 32 1700W 100 Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W 93 Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W 86 Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W 94 Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W 119.7 Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W 105.7 BMS18S430v2 8 23.5 .36 .34 262 31 1200W 86 BMS18N850v2 13 26.2 .36 .34 247 29.7 1200W 82.5 CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W 104.7 Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W 88.8 Em http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=330752143371&item=330752143371" rel="nofollow - Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W 90 Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W 93 Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W 78 FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W 86 FP18HP1040 9.5 24.5 .35 .34 196 38 1000W 108.5 FP18HP1060 12.45 24.8 .38 .37 175 35 1200W 92 FP18HP1020 9.5 28 .28 .27 207 35 1000W 125 FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W 128.8 FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W 81.6 FaneCol18B600 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 29 600W 118.3 FaneCol18B800 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 32 800W 130.6 FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W 98.3 FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W 92 JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W 120 PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W 136 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=220&type=2&ext=330866191637&item=330866191637" rel="nofollow - PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W 113 PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W 82.8 PD188 6 26.59 .289 .28 224 37 600W 139 PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W 101.5 RCFL18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W 97 RCF LF18X451 13.5 30.5 .29 .28 220 30 1800W 103 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=330752166631&item=330752166631" rel="nofollow - http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=390433077143&item=390433077143" rel="nofollow - RCF LF18N401 8.8 27.8 .27 .26 257 32 1200W 118.5 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=390433063991&item=390433063991" rel="nofollow - RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=330752166631&item=330752166631" rel="nofollow - RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 RCF,L18p200-N 9.8 23.1 .32 .31 380 28 800W 87.5 RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W 96.6 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=390433077143&item=390433077143" rel="nofollow - TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W 77.7 Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W 131.1 Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W 126.5 VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W 154.5 ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 15 February 2013 at 10:42am
| there is no guide line likes this for a super? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 16 February 2013 at 2:21am
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Not that I know of....... ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: UpComingSound
Date Posted: 16 February 2013 at 7:45pm
| if they fit in the super i guess they should work |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:05pm
Look at realitysounds post, he doesn't even list the x401, why? -Because it haven't got that high EBP I guess, this is not only a questin about watts, but more of a question about EBP, BL & Xmax. By the way: you ALLWAYS need more power and sensivity right:-) -Otherwise just build a refleks, they're much smaller and you wont need 6 a side to go down really low:-) |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:35pm
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There is probably lost of drivers that are not on this list. If anyone notices that there is one that should have probably made the list, then by all means drop a line........ This list is a guide for people who haven't the foggiest about choosing a driver for a rear loaded horn, as which I once was. Knowledge has been passed on to me, and I am passing it on to the masses. The list is open to scrutiny. Bless. ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:46pm
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XMAX(7+)/ BL(24+)/ QES(-.35)/ QTS (-.35)/ VAS(-360)/FS(-35)/ RMS/GBP/USD (18sound) 18W1000 7 24.7 .24 .23 268 35 1000W $300 18LW1250 9 23.6 .28 .27 268 35 1000W ? 18LW1400 9 24.7 .31 .29 297 31 1000W $360 18LW2400 9.5 25.6 .32 .31 230 35 1200W $330 18W2000 7 27.1 .26 .25 230 37 1200W 240E 18NLW9000 14 27 .32 .31 206 34 1800W 380P 18NLW9600 14 30 .29 .28 149 34 1800W $700 18NLW9601 14 30 .28 .28 164 34 1800W 18ND9300 9.5 24.4 .29 .28 316 30 1000W $500 18NLW9400 9.5 26 .28 .26 268 33 1200W B&C TBX-46 9 25.8 .33 .31 227 34 1000Wdiscontinued B&C TBX100 9 25.5 .37 .35 212 34 1200W $316 B&C18PZB100 8 26 .25 .24 297 30 700W $315 B&CPS76 7 25.8 .29 .27 39 600W $200 B&C18NW100 9 28 .27 .26 252 31 1200W $400+ B&C18SW115 14 30.3 .32 .3 187 32 1700W $582 Beyma18G50 9 28.8 .334 .325 212 40 750W $380 Beyma18G550 9 24.4 .385 .37 210 36 900W $390 Beyma18P1000 8 26 .37 .36 245 32 1000W $460 Beyma18p1200ND 9.5 26.3 .35 .34 198 37 1200W $630 Beyma18PW1400 10 29 .28 .27 229 32 1400W Beyma18SW1600Nd 10 29 .34 .33 205 32 1600W $700 BMS18S430v2 8 23.5 .36 .34 262 31 1200W 304E BMS18N850v2 13 26.2 .36 .34 247 29.7 1200W 405Q CelestionCF18VJD 9 30.54 .315 .305 164 33 1600W 330Q/$535 CelestionFTR184080 6 22.88 .29 .27 395 26 1000W $250 Ciare 18SW 14 35. .47 .45 92 36 800W $400 Em Definimax4018 7.9 27 .36 .35 238 32 800W $305 Em Impero18C 8.13 16.1 .35 .34 317 31.5 1200W $300 Em OmegaproA&C 4.8 18.8 .32 .31 548 25 800W $200 Em Sigma 6.1 22.1 .3 .29 441 28 650W $170 EV-EVX180B 6.4 22.5 .29 .27 416 29 600W $535 FaitalPro18xl1600 13 28.1 .37 .36 195.5 32 1600W $600 FP18HP1020 9.5 28 .28 .27 207 35 1000W $400 FP18HP1040 9.5 24.5 .35 .34 196 38 1000W $400 FP18HP1060 12.45 24.8 .38 .37 175 35 1200W $450 FANEcol-1500 12.75 32.75 .26 .25 175 33.5 1500W365Q/$590 FANEcolPrimeXS 12 22.4 .404 .385 257 33 1200W $370 FaneCol18B 4 29.5 .207 .197 320 30.5 400W ? FaneCol18B600 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 29 600W FaneCol18B800 7.2 25.25 .245 .236 354 32 800W FANEcol18SB 8.25 24 .366 .346 199 36 1000W $290 FANEcol18XB 7.5 25.9 .358 .337 236 33 1000W Q197$300 JBL 2242 9 23.7 .29 .29 283 35 800W $700 P-AudioSD18-1700N 7.5 33.7 .39 .38 88.6 44 1700W P AudioSD18 5 35.8 .27 .26 264 33 800W PD1850 11.25 31 .22 .21 249 30 800W Q335 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=220&type=2&ext=330909389457&item=330909389457" rel="nofollow - PD1851 12 31 .3 .29 182 34 1000W Q359 PD1852 12 32 .34 .33 129.1 40 1000W Q398 PD186 9 22.94 .326 .312 353 27 700W Q193 PeaveyLOWMAX 8.25 25 .33 .32 295 33.5 1200W $368 PeaveyLowRider 9.6 22.17 .356 .342 288 28.9 800W $205 Radian2218NEO 21.3 29.85 .283 .257 329.4 31.4 1300W $800 RCF,LF18G400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $435 RCF LF18G401 8.5 24.6 .29 .30 268 33 900W ? http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029&campid=CAMPAIGNID&customid=CUSTOMID&catId=293&type=2&ext=230974964099&item=230974964099" rel="nofollow - RCF LF18X451 13.5 30.5 .29 .28 220 30 1800W $500 RCF LF18N451 8.8 30.2 .25 .24 245 31 1500W RCF,LF18X400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $500 RCF,L18p200-N 9.8 23.1 .32 .31 380 28 800W $365 RCF,L18P300 7.8 23.5 .34 .33 226 33 1000W $390 RCF,LF18P400 9 24.2 .29 .27 360 28 1000W $370 RCF LF18N401 8.8 27.8 .27 .26 257 32 1200W $410 RCFLF18X401 11.5 26.5 .31 .30 274 30 1500W $400 TC.SoundsLmsUltra5400 38.1 26.8 .34 .33 240.7 20.5 2000W TC PRO 5100 31 .25 .25 251 26.5 1000W $1290 Turbomax 1500M3 12.75 35.39 .218 .208 184.95 28.59 1500W Q320 Turbomax 1800 14.1 34.03 .201 .1944 233.57 25.43 1800W Q300 TurbomaxB1000 12.5 24.56 .3951 .3694 238.44 30.7 1000W Q227 VOID 10.5 34.8 .22 .22 201 34 1000W Q235 Wembly B Line 10 24.17 .26 .24 412 25 800W Driver names in Blue tried & tested, Green are good, Red shows where the parameters have fallen outside the ideal specs a bit,..but driver will still work, just not as great as the others (green) for max spl. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on how certain drivers sound in certain scoops,...so to each their own, horses for courses etc. Purple is 'close enough' I will add to the list as time allows. Anyone with knowledge on particular drivers, or personal experience with a specific drivers performance in a particular scoop- pass it on.
If there are any drivers that should be on here, let me know. This is a GUIDE. Nothing engraved in stone.------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 09 May 2013 at 6:44pm
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I like the sound and the customers certainly like the sound so how can I not recommend the B and C 18SW115. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |