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Topic: powering a pair of void v18 1000's
Posted By: ten ant
Subject: powering a pair of void v18 1000's
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 3:47pm
having alot of trouble finding a 2000w two channel amp where each channel can give out 1000watts at 8ohms, everything i find is alway at 4ohms so i was wondering how people normally power v18's as i know they are a popular choice for bass and are only mde as an 8ohm driver. im quite new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated thanks




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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 3:56pm
Be careful.

You will find people recommending amps that have huge published figures, yet performance on sub turns out to be weak. One reason being, amp specs are for output at 1khz.Dead

Send PMs to people you know have Voids, and they know which amps drive them well...

What's your budget & music material?


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Posted By: ten ant
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:17pm
budget on the amp alone or the whole setup? and mostly drum and bass, jungle and bit of dub reggae thanks


Posted By: dj haydn
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:21pm

i use jbl mpa's in bridge to power my voids, thats always works for me, have also used cv 2800 bridged at 8ohm per bin and was very effective, but 4 amps for 4 bins is a lot of kit....

many possibilitys but as lev said make sure they got the juice


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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:46pm
what cab are they in?
i use them in X1s, have used matrix xp3000 on them, a friend hires EV p3000... but he's also on a budget so looking to buy a thomann proline 3000.

most amps that call themselves "3000 watt amp" will do about 1000w a side at 8 ohms and about 1500w a side at 4 ohms.

narrow down your list of candidates and read up on them.

i use pkn xd4000s on them now, good fun.


Posted By: jbinks
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:53pm
Powering 2 voids from one amp isn't ideal...

You are better off getting a big-man amp and running 2 PER SIDE.
If you don't have something for the other side of the amp then use it to run your kick/mids and save amp channels there (obviously you need to keep that channel attenuated appropriately).

Proline 2700 may be an option for bridge 4 ohm.... but I've not tried it. I know proline is good in 4 ohm per channel but please get some feedback from someone who has actually used it in 4 ohm bridge mode.

Basically, the problem you have is that 2 voids is a big load. You either need a BIG amp to run them both off a single channel (4 ohm load), or a SOLID amp to run them both bridged (4 ohm load).
BIG or SOLID are not cheap.

If weight and size isn't an issue then the best option is actually two amps, both running in bridge driving an 8ohm load. This keeps the amps happy and you can use much cheaper amps and still get lots of power. For example, years ago I used Peavey PV-2600 amps, one per v18-1000 in this configuration and they did the business! Heavy as hell, but they worked! - Cheap too.

Try to get amps on loan from people local to you if possible and work out what you like.



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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 4:57pm
^What Jbinks just said.

Except, dudes playing Dnb sets often end up playing to massive crowds, which may mean 6x or more subs. And Proline 2700 weighs 5.5 stones (35kg) each, so 16.5 stones (105kg) of sub amps to drive 6x subs, may be less than desirable. LOL

Originally posted by ten ant ten ant wrote:

budget on the amp alone or the whole setup? and mostly drum and bass, jungle and bit of dub reggae thanks


In that case, not only do you need an amp that will deliver the goods, it needs to be strong enough to do it regularly without blowing up.

List of suitable amps has just shrunk.

How many drivers in total do you have, and budget for sub amps to driver them ?




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Posted By: major_gloom
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 9:46pm
if you can afford it id go for something big , like a crown MA5002vz or a void infinate 8. 

ive used allsorts to power mine including a coupls of PV2600 bridged , a QSC RMX2450. an opus ka3000 etc etc , none smashed it out quite like our inf8s do.

the benefit being you will only need one amp and will still need only one if you buy more v18s


Posted By: jbinks
Date Posted: 04 April 2012 at 7:44am
Originally posted by major_gloom major_gloom wrote:

if you can afford it id go for something big , like a crown MA5002vz or a void infinate 8. 

ive used allsorts to power mine including a coupls of PV2600 bridged , a QSC RMX2450. an opus ka3000 etc etc , none smashed it out quite like our inf8s do.

the benefit being you will only need one amp and will still need only one if you buy more v18s

Thumbs Up


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Posted By: ten ant
Date Posted: 05 April 2012 at 2:03pm
 thankyou everyone for the help Smile, but to be honest i only have the two drivers, and they are all i need for now, and i am on abit of a budget even though i will keep in mind everything you have told me about big amps, for the future when i get more drivers. 

what do you think would work better in this case, a pair of the pv2600's or a thomann proline 3000?

also i would like to know more about bridging and wattage and ohm law, (as i said i am quite new to all this) because after reading the spec of the pv2600 and the pv1500 it said that the 1500 bridged gives out 1000w at 8ohm and the 2600 bridged gives out 1800w at ohms and you lot have recommended the 2600 even though the void v18s are 1000w rms. call me a noob but im a little confused haha

cheersSmile


Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 05 April 2012 at 2:07pm
stay away from the pv series amps. better off with a proline/mpa/mpx1200,qsc 4050hd etc. friend might have a qsc 4050hd for sale soon Wink

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Posted By: dj haydn
Date Posted: 05 April 2012 at 5:52pm
+1 on the mpa's and mpx's which are pretty much the qsc 4050hd anyway
never had a problem powering my voids and the only ever problem i get is complaints from local residents LOL
 


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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 05 April 2012 at 7:39pm

+1

2nd hand heavyweight if you're on a budget.
 
Jbl mpx 1200
Jbl mpa 1100
Qsc mx3000a
Qsc ex4000
Qsc 4050HD
Crest 8001
 
All good
 


Posted By: Neilt001
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 3:14pm
Hi all,

Just want to piggy-back off this old thread. I want to power a single X1 loaded with Void V18. I only have 1U left in my rack. So I want a 2-channel 1U that I can put in bridge mode at 8ohms. Nothing crazy expensive, but obviously something tha reaches at least 1500W (I guess 2000W ideally) bridged.

Was thinking 
- JAM Systems X35 (chinese. powerful. but a bit of an unknown quantity)
- Admark (chinese. they almost seem too powerful, as even their entry AD20 offers 6800W in bridge mode)

Ideally only 2-channel and no DSP (why pay for something I don't need).

Thanks so much!




Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 3:27pm
Originally posted by Neilt001 Neilt001 wrote:

Hi all,

Just want to piggy-back off this old thread. I want to power a single X1 loaded with Void V18. I only have 1U left in my rack. So I want a 2-channel 1U that I can put in bridge mode at 8ohms. Nothing crazy expensive, but obviously something tha reaches at least 1500W (I guess 2000W ideally) bridged.

Was thinking 
- JAM Systems X35 (chinese. powerful. but a bit of an unknown quantity)
- Admark (chinese. they almost seem too powerful, as even their entry AD20 offers 6800W in bridge mode)

Ideally only 2-channel and no DSP (why pay for something I don't need).

Thanks so much!



I am 'upgrading' some Turbosound TMS Low cabinets with VOID V18-1000 drivers, tonight/tomorrow. I am going to power them with Admark AD42 (one per channel) Will let you know how it goes/sounds


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Navanor Navanor wrote:

I am 'upgrading' some Turbosound TMS Low cabinets with VOID V18-1000 drivers, tonight/tomorrow. I am going to power them with Admark AD42 (one per channel) Will let you know how it goes/sounds

You're doing it right...

Why buy big man drivers, if not intending to drive them properly.


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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 8:13pm
Putting Void Drivers in a 90’s Turbosound box is not an upgrade. I would advise getting the original drivers refurbed and put them back in and buy a decent quality amplifier.

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 10:09pm
I think that the Void magnets will foul the trap door anyway--- so not a viable thing to do.


Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 21 January 2026 at 10:24pm
The Turbosound TMS Low is introduced in 2011 (according to spec sheet)
And yes Robbo, you are correct. However, it will be possible with some minor modifications to the cab. 




Posted By: APSUS
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 2:01am
So it’s not recommended to use the AD42 on 4 subs (2 on each channel). Can that amp power the Voids, PD1852 or 18NLW9601?


Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 5:49am
Ohhhh my bad! I stopped following Turbosounds new products when they stopped being “Turbosound” surprised the sales team at Behringer let them use the TMS model number again, thats proper Turbo Heritage.

I wrongly assumed TMS low you just ment TSE218 which is a lovely box with super high quality drivers in.

Happy noise making :)


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Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 8:40am
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Ohhhh my bad! I stopped following Turbosounds new products when they stopped being “Turbosound” surprised the sales team at Behringer let them use the TMS model number again, thats proper Turbo Heritage.

I wrongly assumed TMS low you just ment TSE218 which is a lovely box with super high quality drivers in.

Happy noise making :)
Thanks! There were Celestion OEM drivers in the TMS Low that I have (blown), but it's an 18" driver with 4,5mm xmax, 3" voice coil, high Qes & Qts,... So I assume the VOID will be a better alternative to fix them. Here are some pictures of the drivers side by side





I did compare the measurements (like diameter and height) but not the diameter of the magnet unfortunately Smile




Posted By: monkeypuzzle
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 9:27am
Originally posted by Navanor Navanor wrote:

The Turbosound TMS Low is introduced in 2011 (according to spec sheet)
And yes Robbo, you are correct. However, it will be possible with some minor modifications to the cab. 



If you're going to make some adjustments to get the driver to fit, it may also be worth putting an ali plate on the back as that drivers could get pretty warm in what looks like quite a small back chamber if you're giving it full beans, esp with the wadding in there. If you've got the V18's there might be a better option in the long run to get the most out of them, keep the celestions and when you're ready, move on the TMS and source some boxes more suited to the Voids. I'm sure there are people on here that could jump in with recommendations if you share your size and freq range requirements.


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 11:35am
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Putting Void Drivers in a 90’s Turbosound box is not an upgrade. I would advise getting the original drivers refurbed and put them back in and buy a decent quality amplifier.



+1

Putting in a (supposedly) higher power driver, that will then just overheat & lose 10dB due to thermal compression (very small cab) is just stupid! Use the most efficient driver, which is most probably the original - or maybe something like the JBL 2242. You also won't need to find some amp with silly watts. They'll run on any decent amp with a bit of headroom.





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Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 3:40pm
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Ohhhh my bad! I stopped following Turbosounds new products when they stopped being “Turbosound” surprised the sales team at Behringer let them use the TMS model number again, thats proper Turbo Heritage
Happy noise making :)

Same as you I got confused had to Google the 'newer turbo tms' 

I think the last  proper turbo horns was the tsw  218? I might be wrong. 


It went to that sounds like turbo sound Tongue to is that .. em what's that Ouch! In the flick of the behrignger switch at a time when everyone wanted line array turbo had aspect. No one wanted them point source. 

Now I see aspects everywhere 


Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Putting Void Drivers in a 90’s Turbosound box is not an upgrade. I would advise getting the original drivers refurbed and put them back in and buy a decent quality amplifier.



+1

Putting in a (supposedly) higher power driver, that will then just overheat & lose 10dB due to thermal compression (very small cab) is just stupid! Use the most efficient driver, which is most probably the original - or maybe something like the JBL 2242. You also won't need to find some amp with silly watts. They'll run on any decent amp with a bit of headroom.



I already tried with one Faital Pro 18HP1030 (had only one, so one cab) and was pleased so was looking for another one. But then I found the VOIDs not so far from where I live, and those 2 were a lot cheaper than only one Faital Pro... 

And in case the VOIDs are not good enough, I still have 4 WSX cabinets so I can use them in there. Downside is that I need to find another pair of V18s and those don't come up for sale that often where I live unfortunately


Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by KDW32 KDW32 wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Ohhhh my bad! I stopped following Turbosounds new products when they stopped being “Turbosound” surprised the sales team at Behringer let them use the TMS model number again, thats proper Turbo Heritage
Happy noise making :)

Same as you I got confused had to Google the 'newer turbo tms' 

I think the last  proper turbo horns was the tsw  218? I might be wrong. 


It went to that sounds like turbo sound Tongue to is that .. em what's that Ouch! In the flick of the behrignger switch at a time when everyone wanted line array turbo had aspect. No one wanted them point source. 

Now I see aspects everywhere 
I'm happy with them and curious how the VOIDs will sound in the TMS Low Tongue




Posted By: KDW32
Date Posted: 22 January 2026 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by Navanor Navanor wrote:

  
I'm happy with them and curious how the VOIDs will sound in the TMS Low Tongue



I'm interested to find out your results. What are the new tms tops like? ConfusedCool


Posted By: Navanor
Date Posted: 26 January 2026 at 9:28am
Originally posted by KDW32 KDW32 wrote:

I'm interested to find out your results. What are the new tms tops like? ConfusedCool
I like them, they go loud and clear. Only downside is they only play from 180Hz. Here are some pics of the horns







I managed to get the VOID V18 in theTMS Lows and it sounded good. I didn't use the Admark, but a Powersoft M50. I'll try to test with the Admark asap and do some measurements!



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