pd 1851
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Forum Name: 1850 and 186 horns
Forum Description: Discussion / Questions about the 1850 and 186 horns
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Topic: pd 1851
Posted By: catalin
Subject: pd 1851
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:29pm
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:34pm
would work but the 186 is cheaper why not the 1850 horn if you want to use 1851 ??
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:40pm
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Hi! the pd 1851 have EBP 113 and pd 1850 EBP 136.
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:51pm
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The best cab for pd 1851?
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:20pm
Father-Francis wrote:
would work but the 186 is cheaper why not the 1850 horn if you want to use 1851 ??
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PD1851 is designed to do warm deep notes in scoops.
Would be better in 186 horn, but still not as good as in Full scoop.
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:46pm
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What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851?
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:51pm
Lev some time back some one said they used these in their 1850 horn and they were great thats why I said he should go for it. I knows them are scoop drivers ,but as you know not everyone wants scoops , I have 8 RS1 that will be ready soon would like to load them with 1851 ,
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 5:52pm
Father-Francis wrote:
Lev some time back some one said they used these in their 1850 horn and they were great thats why I said he should go for it. I knows them are scoop drivers ,but as you know not everyone wants scoops , I have 8 RS1 that will be ready soon would like to load them with 1851 ,
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Yep..
However, the 186 Horn has larger chamber.
You don't "really" hear the difference between 1851 & 1850, until chamber size starts increasing.
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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 8:59pm
catalin wrote:
What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851? |
you don´t need to change a thing , Lev you got a point there I´ve got 4 186 loaded with V18-1000 they sound very good to, would like to make 4 more for my Kenyan-Indian crowd fro their partys , they like the MT122 on 186,
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 6:40pm
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Hi! Someone using Pd 1851 in 186 cab?
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 12:25am
Father-Francis wrote:
catalin wrote:
What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851? |
you don´t need to change a thing , Lev you got a point there I´ve got 4 186 loaded with V18-1000 they sound very good to, would like to make 4 more for my Kenyan-Indian crowd fro their partys , they like the MT122 on 186,
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Francis how low do those 4 186's drop with the Voids in them? What do you hi pass them at etc.?
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Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 2:36pm
so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 6:31pm
grazzeee wrote:
so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?
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You really do need to read more before posting mate.
The search button is there for a reason.
Or even better, type this into google search window
site:speakerplans.com 1850+scoop
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Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 9:03am
Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 28 July 2013 at 9:39am
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Hi all .How much paint is needed to spray one 186 cab? 3 coats is enough? I'm gonna use Tuff cab paint.Thanks
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Posted By: K M Sound System
Date Posted: 28 July 2013 at 7:10pm
catalin wrote:
Hi all .How much paint is needed to spray one 186 cab? 3 coats is enough? I'm gonna use Tuff cab paint.Thanks |
I used to do 1 thinned down layer, 4 thin layers and 2 thick coats with texture.
But now i use 2 thin coats and 2 thick textured coats, and can't notice difference
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 29 July 2013 at 8:01pm
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Thanks for replay.4 liters per cab is enough?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 01 November 2013 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 01 November 2013 at 6:12pm
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 05 November 2013 at 4:14pm
levyte357 wrote:
grazzeee wrote:
so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?
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You really do need to read more before posting mate.
The search button is there for a reason.
Or even better, type this into google search window
site:speakerplans.com 1850+scoop
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basicly you will learn scoops sound rubbish regardless of what they are loaded with.
I think taking an expensive driver like the 1851 would be wasted in the 186/1850 horn... id want to design something bespoke to the driver to maximise its potential.
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Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 05 November 2013 at 4:20pm
mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:
... id want to design something bespoke to the driver to maximise its potential.
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So max. bass SPL per given watt? Scoop!
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 12 November 2013 at 7:14pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 13 November 2013 at 6:10pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 02 December 2013 at 9:44pm
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Posted By: kick-spill
Date Posted: 03 December 2013 at 3:19am
Handles look factory! ^^^^
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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 03 December 2013 at 10:18am
kick-spill wrote:
Handles look factory! ^^^^ |
+1 Top quality woodwork!
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 04 December 2013 at 1:48pm
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 04 December 2013 at 2:07pm
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Wow some nice bloody wood-work that is!
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 7:49am
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 9:09am
You're doing a very nice job of this.
What is the fixing into the edges of the panels that make up the flare?
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Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 10:41am
Top quality, great work Catalin
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:35am
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 1:53pm
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 2:14pm
I see now, thanks for the extra picture, that does indeed look like it would make a very good joint. Is the groove cut with a router? What sort of jig do you use for it?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 2:32pm
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 1:54am
Love the Family Guy slippers!
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Posted By: Fabianm_be
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 1:44pm
Very nice build
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:29pm
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Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint? And second one: Warnex or Tuffcab? Thanks
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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:36pm
catalin wrote:
Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint? |
No
catalin wrote:
And second one: Warnex or Tuffcab?
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Warnex seems to be more durable but isn't available in all those fancy colors.
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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:59pm
all bass wrote:
catalin wrote:
Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint? |
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catalin wrote:
</span>And second one: Warnex or Tuffcab?<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> |
</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">Warnex seems to be more durable but isn't available in all those fancy colors.</span> |
It is but you need to order 120 Kg. :)
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 August 2014 at 1:43pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 22 August 2014 at 10:45am
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 August 2014 at 7:09pm
Whats the recess for?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 10:54am
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Hi there The recess are for somme metal elements , wich is gonna hold the mid cab above.
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Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 4:28pm
That's some really nice wood work! Are you in the UK? If you are, please may I know where you got the grilles?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 5:31pm
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Hi there! This are the grills http://www.rmig.com/en/stock+list/perforated+sheets/online+stocklist+in+rmig+uk
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Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 24 August 2014 at 1:18am
Ah, I see. If it isn't too much to asks, how much did you pay per grille?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 24 August 2014 at 2:20pm
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I need four grilles 930 mm/615 mm so i bought two sheets 2000 mm/1000 mm ,47 quid +VAT each 8 mm holes 1.5 mm thick 10 mm triangular pitch 58 % open area
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Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 25 August 2014 at 1:46am
That's a very good price! Thanks for that, enjoy your new horns!
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Posted By: mitchiemasha
Date Posted: 25 August 2014 at 7:11pm
Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 September 2014 at 7:09pm
catalin wrote:
I need four grilles 930 mm/615 mm so i bought two sheets 2000 mm/1000 mm ,47 quid +VAT each8 mm holes 1.5 mm thick 10 mm triangular pitch 58 % open area
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Where did you get the grill from mate, Marky?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 5:07pm
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Hi there! http://www.rmig.com/en/stock+list/perforated+sheets/online+stocklist+in+rmig+uk Hope it,s helpful
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Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 7:29pm
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Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 8:24pm
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Really neat build sir, how much was shipping for the grilles please?
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 8:54pm
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For three sheets was about 20 pounds. They are very communicative and the delivery was fairly fast
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 11 November 2014 at 10:17am
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 29 September 2015 at 10:47am
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Hi there! I need a bit of help: Four 186 horns , PD 1851mk1 loaded What lms settings do you guys recommanded? ( crossover tipe,slopes etc) I have DB Mark DP48 processor Thank you!
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 1:12pm
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I was thinking: 40 Hz hp,butterworth 48db/oct 120 Hz Lp ,Linkwitz Riley,24db/oct The cabs vill not be overdriven,for this reason i have chosen 40 hz Hp. I'm looking for a decent measurement microphone,what do you recommend? Thanks
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Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 20 November 2015 at 10:44am
Is there a picture of the finished set up? Amazing work!!
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