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Topic: pd 1851
Posted By: catalin
Subject: pd 1851
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:29pm
The 186 cab for pd 1851?



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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:34pm
would work but the 186 is cheaper why not the 1850 horn if you want to use 1851 ??

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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:40pm
Hi! the pd 1851 have EBP 113 and pd 1850 EBP 136.


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 1:51pm
The best cab for pd 1851?


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

would work but the 186 is cheaper why not the 1850 horn if you want to use 1851 ??


PD1851 is designed to do warm deep notes in scoops.

Would be better in 186 horn, but still not as good as in Full scoop.




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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:46pm
What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851?


Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 2:51pm
Lev some time back some one said they used these in their 1850 horn and they were great thats why I said he should go for it. I knows them are scoop drivers ,but as you know not everyone wants scoops , Shocked  I have 8 RS1 that will be ready soon would like to load them with 1851 , 

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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Lev some time back some one said they used these in their 1850 horn and they were great thats why I said he should go for it. I knows them are scoop drivers ,but as you know not everyone wants scoops , Shocked  I have 8 RS1 that will be ready soon would like to load them with 1851 , 


Yep..

However, the 186 Horn has larger chamber.

You don't "really" hear the difference between 1851 & 1850, until chamber size starts increasing.


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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 07 April 2012 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851?


you don´t need to change a thing ,
Lev you got a point there I´ve got 4 186 loaded with V18-1000 they sound very good to, would like to make 4 more for my Kenyan-Indian crowd fro their partys , they like the MT122 on 186,


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 6:40pm
Hi! Someone using Pd 1851 in 186 cab?


Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 12:25am
Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

What changes should be made of 186 cab to fit pd 1851?


you don´t need to change a thing ,
Lev you got a point there I´ve got 4 186 loaded with V18-1000 they sound very good to, would like to make 4 more for my Kenyan-Indian crowd fro their partys , they like the MT122 on 186,


Francis how low do those 4 186's drop with the Voids in them? What do you hi pass them at etc.?


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Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 2:36pm
so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?



Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by grazzeee grazzeee wrote:

so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?


You really do need to read more before posting mate.

The search button is there for a reason.

Or even better, type this into google search window

site:speakerplans.com 1850+scoop


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Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 11 June 2012 at 9:03am
thanks


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 28 July 2013 at 9:39am
Hi all .How much paint is needed to spray one 186 cab? 3 coats is enough? I'm gonna use Tuff cab paint.Thanks


Posted By: K M Sound System
Date Posted: 28 July 2013 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

Hi all .How much paint is needed to spray one 186 cab? 3 coats is enough? I'm gonna use Tuff cab paint.Thanks

I used to do 1 thinned down layer, 4 thin layers and 2 thick coats with texture.

But now i use 2 thin coats and 2 thick textured coats, and can't notice difference


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 29 July 2013 at 8:01pm
Thanks for replay.4 liters per cab is enough?


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 01 November 2013 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 01 November 2013 at 6:12pm
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 05 November 2013 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by grazzeee grazzeee wrote:

so are 1850s for horns and 1851s for scoops?


You really do need to read more before posting mate.

The search button is there for a reason.

Or even better, type this into google search window

site:speakerplans.com 1850+scoop



basicly you will learn scoops sound rubbish regardless of what they are loaded with.

I think taking an expensive driver like the 1851 would be wasted in the 186/1850 horn... id want to design something bespoke to the driver to maximise its potential.




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Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 05 November 2013 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

... id want to design something bespoke to the driver to maximise its potential.


So max. bass SPL per given watt? Scoop!


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 12 November 2013 at 7:14pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 13 November 2013 at 6:10pm
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 02 December 2013 at 9:44pm
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Posted By: kick-spill
Date Posted: 03 December 2013 at 3:19am
Handles look factory! ^^^^

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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 03 December 2013 at 10:18am
Originally posted by kick-spill kick-spill wrote:

Handles look factory! ^^^^


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 04 December 2013 at 1:48pm
Thanks guys!
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 04 December 2013 at 2:07pm
Wow some nice bloody wood-work that is!

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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 7:49am
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 9:09am
You're doing a very nice job of this.

What is the fixing into the edges of the panels that make up the flare?


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Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 10:41am
Top quality, great work Catalin Thumbs Up


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 11:35am
Hi there!
I do not know how you call this type of connection but i think is  strong enough for the job
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 1:53pm
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 2:14pm
I see now, thanks for the extra picture, that does indeed look like it would make a very good joint. Is the groove cut with a router? What sort of jig do you use for it?


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 2:32pm
The jig is simple one,but very handy and acurate
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 1:54am
Love the Family Guy slippers!



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Posted By: Fabianm_be
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 1:44pm
Very nice build Smile


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:29pm
Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint?
And second one: Warnex or Tuffcab?
Thanks


Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint?
No
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

And second one: Warnex or Tuffcab?
Warnex seems to be more durable but isn't available in all those fancy colors.


Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 6:59pm
Originally posted by all bass all bass wrote:

Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

Hi there! I have one question: It is ncessary undercoat or primer before paint?
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It is but you need to order 120 Kg. :)

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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 16 August 2014 at 1:43pm
Somme paint jobSmile

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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 22 August 2014 at 10:45am
Almost there!!
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 August 2014 at 7:09pm
Whats the recess for?


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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 10:54am
Hi there
The recess are for somme metal elements , wich is gonna hold  the mid cab above.



Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 4:28pm
That's some really nice wood work! Are you in the UK? If you are, please may I know where you got the grilles?


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 23 August 2014 at 5:31pm
Hi there!
This are the grills
http://www.rmig.com/en/stock+list/perforated+sheets/online+stocklist+in+rmig+uk


Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 24 August 2014 at 1:18am
Ah, I see. If it isn't too much to asks, how much did you pay per grille?


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 24 August 2014 at 2:20pm
I need four grilles 930 mm/615 mm so i bought two sheets 2000 mm/1000 mm ,47 quid +VAT each
8 mm holes
1.5 mm thick
10 mm triangular pitch
58 % open area



Posted By: Tigersonics
Date Posted: 25 August 2014 at 1:46am
That's a very good price! Thanks for that, enjoy your new horns!


Posted By: mitchiemasha
Date Posted: 25 August 2014 at 7:11pm
Looking solid!!!




Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 24 September 2014 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

I need four grilles 930 mm/615 mm so i bought two sheets 2000 mm/1000 mm ,47 quid +VAT each
8 mm holes
1.5 mm thick
10 mm triangular pitch
58 % open area


Where did you get the grill from mate, Marky?


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 5:07pm
Hi there!
http://www.rmig.com/en/stock+list/perforated+sheets/online+stocklist+in+rmig+uk
Hope it,s helpful


Posted By: boots-hifi
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 7:29pm
Cheers



Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by catalin catalin wrote:

Hi there!
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Hope it,s helpful

Really neat build sir, how much was shipping for the grilles please?


Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 26 September 2014 at 8:54pm
For three sheets was about 20 pounds.
They are very communicative and the delivery was fairly fast
Good package too.



Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 11 November 2014 at 10:17am
Somme metal work
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Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 29 September 2015 at 10:47am
Hi there!
I need a bit of help: Four 186 horns , PD 1851mk1 loaded
What lms settings do you guys recommanded? ( crossover tipe,slopes etc)
I have DB Mark DP48 processor
Thank you!



Posted By: catalin
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 1:12pm
I was thinking:
 40 Hz hp,butterworth 48db/oct
120 Hz Lp ,Linkwitz Riley,24db/oct
The cabs vill not be overdriven,for this reason i have chosen 40 hz Hp.
I'm looking for a decent measurement microphone,what do you recommend?
Thanks


Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 20 November 2015 at 10:44am
Is there a picture of the finished set up? Amazing work!!

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