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Topic: MHB-46 build start to finish
Posted By: jerronimo
Subject: MHB-46 build start to finish
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:00pm
Want to share my more recent build of four mhb-46 hybrid horn with you guy's.
I finally documented a build with some picture's as I usually forget to make any :)
Hope u enjoy:

Ready for cutting:



7 sheets of birchply cut:



Accespannels glued:


Template bit:




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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:02pm




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Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:05pm


Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:07pm
60 degree angle setup:



Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:09pm
Routing:



Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:10pm
The result:



Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:11pm
Side panel template:




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Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:16pm
Handles:



Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:17pm
Ready for assembling:



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Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:20pm




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Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:23pm





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Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:26pm




Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 9:29pm
Testing and time aligningSmile
 


Posted By: jamwa
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:53pm
nice...........

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Posted By: hmaudio
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:59pm
very nice build! love how you did the miter cuts with the router iv never thought of doing it that way Clap

so how do they sound? 


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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by hmaudio hmaudio wrote:

very nice build! love how you did the miter cuts with the router iv never thought of doing it that way Clap


+1 on all that!


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Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:33pm
nice job.

Ive been trying to make jug for connector plates recently, out of curiosity how did you do yours?


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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:09am
Originally posted by dlyxover dlyxover wrote:

nice job.

Ive been trying to make jug for connector plates recently, out of curiosity how did you do yours?
making jigs is easy, 2 way s to do it, use a bit with a bearing on and use a 1:1 template or make an ove sized template and use a "collar". Most 1/2" router come with a 30mm collar (used in worktop jigs etc) so if you make a template 10mm bigger than you need and then use a 10mm bit you get a perfect image, I use 1/2" bits as you can only cut 3 600m worktops with one bit before it blunts a bit so they are "free" to me, whatever you use you must make sure your cutter has a lower radius than your hole, IE don't try a 15mm cutter for a connector dishwith 12mm rads on..
 
Smile
 


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:39am
Very nice build. how they sounding now and are they dual 12" tops or 15s?

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Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 4:00am
cheers Shagnasty.

been using the a collar in the end after various different efforts.

sorry for the hijack

Ermm


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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 5:56pm
Thanks for the replies guy's!!!
Yes the jig for the miter cuts was a nice idea, actually pretty simple but it works!

The jig for the connectorplate was made using a 1:1 template and a bit with top guide bearing as u can see in the picture.
The handle jig was made in the same way, some jigsaw work and allot of filing and sanding.
But off course you only have to make those templates one's.

They sound very nice, you get the clean and precise kick from the horn part and the low extension from the bassreflex, best of both worldsSmile
Usable in both big and medium sized venue's.
Dust was coming from the ceiling, things started to shake and you could really feel the kick in your stomach, allways a good sign heheApprove


The bass-reflex tops are tony wilkes design, double bms 12n620 and 4544 cd's on a cellestion horn.
First I was worried they would have problems keeping up with the 4 mhb-46 but it was no problem whatsoever, they kept sounding crystal clear with no hint of nasty resonance of any kindSmile
I actually think they would be able to cope with 3 mhb-46 per side driven with the right amp, amazing drivers Thumbs Up
For the 12n620 I used a crest pro 7001, actually I need another mpx or qsc3000a to properly power those but I'm working on thatWink
The cd's were driven by a crest pro 4801 so plenty of reserve.

The mhb-46 were powered by 2 bridged mpx-1200 amps, and they ate it all up and kept asking for more, what's next a crest pro 9001?

Two were loaded with rcf lf18n401 that I had from a previous project and the other two with rcf lf18g401. 
Very similar driver's but to my ear the n401 sounds a bit more ''agressive'' there was certainly not allot if anything between them in terms of power handling and output.
Seeing the neo's are big money now, the g401 is a amazing driver for the money.

Yes the racks weigh a ton, but oooh those amps sound sooo nice and worth the hassle in my opinion, and 60kg for a 2 amp amprack is doable with 2 persons, saves me a trip to the gymSmile


Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 10 May 2012 at 7:03pm
Im using 12n620 too, they seem too like a lot of power a sound great.

Thanks for the template help.




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Posted By: ychole audio
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by jerronimo jerronimo wrote:

Thanks for the replies guy's!!!
Yes the jig for the miter cuts was a nice idea, actually pretty simple but it works!

The jig for the connectorplate was made using a 1:1 template and a bit with top guide bearing as u can see in the picture.
The handle jig was made in the same way, some jigsaw work and allot of filing and sanding.
But off course you only have to make those templates one's.

They sound very nice, you get the clean and precise kick from the horn part and the low extension from the bassreflex, best of both worldsSmile
Usable in both big and medium sized venue's.
Dust was coming from the ceiling, things started to shake and you could really feel the kick in your stomach, allways a good sign heheApprove


The bass-reflex tops are tony wilkes design, double bms 12n620 and 4544 cd's on a cellestion horn.
First I was worried they would have problems keeping up with the 4 mhb-46 but it was no problem whatsoever, they kept sounding crystal clear with no hint of nasty resonance of any kindSmile
I actually think they would be able to cope with 3 mhb-46 per side driven with the right amp, amazing drivers Thumbs Up
For the 12n620 I used a crest pro 7001, actually I need another mpx or qsc3000a to properly power those but I'm working on thatWink
The cd's were driven by a crest pro 4801 so plenty of reserve.

The mhb-46 were powered by 2 bridged mpx-1200 amps, and they ate it all up and kept asking for more, what's next a crest pro 9001?

Two were loaded with rcf lf18n401 that I had from a previous project and the other two with rcf lf18g401. 
Very similar driver's but to my ear the n401 sounds a bit more ''agressive'' there was certainly not allot if anything between them in terms of power handling and output.
Seeing the neo's are big money now, the g401 is a amazing driver for the money.

Yes the racks weigh a ton, but oooh those amps sound sooo nice and worth the hassle in my opinion, and 60kg for a 2 amp amprack is doable with 2 persons, saves me a trip to the gymSmile
 
   You got a nice review on this!Any chance of using it on a real gig specially on live band?I really want to build this and use it mostly on live bands,i like the design,simple build.Thanks.


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Posted By: tamuks
Date Posted: 25 June 2012 at 5:32am
very nice work there.just need to know how do they sound ? comparing them with Es bphs

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Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 25 June 2012 at 9:09am
great build there, Clap

are they heavy? they look fairly manageable?


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Posted By: streetsounds
Date Posted: 15 July 2012 at 1:39am
Oooh lovely work there, very nice man

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Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 29 April 2013 at 1:15pm
Bumping my own old topic, been very busy so forgot about itShocked

Thanks!

No they are not that heavy, easy 2 man lift.


Posted By: Mikkel
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:35pm
Amazing build!!

Have you per chance heard the in comparison with the MPB-46? im looking to build some form of hybrid short horn and these look superb but also quite complicate to build.

Thanks 

Mik  


Posted By: Avatron
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 7:01am
Very nice build, they look lovely! 

How high can they play? (Especially with g401)


Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 26 June 2013 at 10:19pm
I cross them at 110hz
Never tried that other design but have was deciding between the two.
From what little info that i understand from the french forums the mhb46 is more suitable for kick heavy music like techno/dance/trance and the mpb46 go's a few hz lower but won't kick as hard.
So i went for the mhb46 and don't regret it!


Posted By: MR-FIZZLE-89
Date Posted: 27 June 2013 at 9:21am
Do you have any more pics or videos in action Jerronimo?
 
Saving money to build my MHB's is such a tedious process, I cant wait haha Wink


Posted By: slaith
Date Posted: 30 June 2013 at 2:59pm
Built a couple of MHB-46:s last year and i'm rally happy with them, a very good overall cab.
Pretty deep because of the BR and kick really good with the short horn.

Pretty easy to run as high as 130Hz 24dB/oct LR, sounded pretty good and gave the a proper beating with a proline 3000.

I'm using the RCF LF18G401:s and i'm really happy with them, would maybe give me som dB extra with the neo variant.
But it's hard to motivate the cost, so this will work for me.
Gonna build som more in a while I think, want more bass!

It's never enough is it? Big smile

Good luck with the build.
Have to say the Jerronimos built was the main inspiration for me.
And since I speak and read french pretty good, it was good reading over att the freeplans forum.
But I think google translate will do a descent job there.
There is even som measurements of the cabs there.

Gonna do some myself in a couple of weeks, during my holiday.
Maybe just maybe there is a picturepost in there somewhere, we'll see.


Posted By: MR-FIZZLE-89
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 12:27pm

My plan is for 4 but i think if I do come across more storage space I would most likely expand... wont be able to help myself Big smile

Have you got any pictures of your build?
 
What mid tops are you running? I'm going to be using the MT130 I think. It's just a hobby for me, I'd probably do the odd club night but mostly just small, private, non profit parties for fun... For the time being anyway LOL
 
Have you used your MHB's outside at all?


Posted By: slaith
Date Posted: 03 July 2013 at 1:16pm
I think 4 is probably the way to go, sensitivity around the same as 4 double 18".
But half the amps needed.
Besides they will fit just nicely on my trailer with the midtops between the subs, and the amprack and cables in the trunk of the car.
 
Top system is.
120 to 300hz a regular basreflex box by my own design that is mountable on a polestands.
Tuned to around 50Hz to be able to be used standalone also, used PD 12SB30 driver.
300 to around 3000hz is a Turbomid horn with B&C 10MD26 driver sounds really good in that configuration.
3000hz and up is DE250 with ME45 horn.
All active crossover, measured with smaart and other asorted software.
 
The upper tops are as compact as possible, just since I want it to be a one man lift.
Upper tops have rubber feet that goes into recessed holes in the "kicks"
 
Will do some outdoor testing of the system in the coming weekend, good thing to live in the country with almost nobody around.
Have a few friends coming over
One of wich Anders Martinsson, the designera behind the THAM series.
He doesn't live that far from me.
Think he will bring some speakers for testing, we will probably do some measuring also.
 
Will get back with the results.


Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 03 July 2013 at 9:40pm
Yes do that will be interesting to hear the results.
Have to warn you though, mhb46 is not an easy one man lift.
It can be done but you need to be strong, and have a good back ;)


Posted By: slaith
Date Posted: 04 July 2013 at 7:20am
Originally posted by jerronimo jerronimo wrote:

Have to warn you though, mhb46 is not an easy one man lift.
It can be done but you need to be strong, and have a good back ;)
 
Don't I know it, damn those things are bulky.
But I got help with the lifting, so that's fine.
 
Will get back with the results, will probably try some stacking options also.
We'll see what the time alows for.


Posted By: MR-FIZZLE-89
Date Posted: 04 July 2013 at 8:23am

I'm very much looking forward to your results Thumbs Up

 
Sounds like you got a nice system going on there Slaith.
 
I will post pictures etc when I get round to doing mine.


Posted By: martinsson
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 8:48pm
just had to drop a teasercomment from todays advetures...

slaith know his stuff, damn, his builds are well thought out, everything has a purpouse, it's all modular and the craftsmanship is close to pro-grade, as for the sound, well... I actually got goosebumps, no joke, and the MHB-46 was really impressive, massive output to loading ratio!




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Posted By: slaith
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 9:19pm
Thanks Anders, heartwarming coming from you!

I did som proper measuring after you left
Tried the subs in different configurations, and a little EQ:ing also.

Just have to sort the images, and make it into a proper post.
Will post the pics and analysis in a different thread, don't want to contaminate Jerronimos. Smile

Anders I did som more testdriving after you left, played Greyhound by Swedesh house mafia.
Turned eveything up until my Proline 3000 was almost clipping, my guess is around 1000W per driver.
Then it really came to life, 124dBC at our listening position.
That was about 7 meters from the spekers I would guess, did som measuring about 50 meters back and I still had around 110dBC of sub.
I actually lost my breath when I wanted to check how much the driver was moving, phew!!

Gonna go that way next time you get here!!! You'll see.

BTW it was a privilige to listen to the THAM10.
So thank you for that!

Will post the same analysis in the upcoming thread along with som EQ tips, just to get the MHB:s even better.

Patrik


Posted By: MR-FIZZLE-89
Date Posted: 08 July 2013 at 2:03pm
These comments make me feel glad I chose the MHB for my build Thumbs Up
 
Great stuff Wink


Posted By: DJ Maestro
Date Posted: 12 September 2013 at 4:56pm
Mr. Fizzle and how is your experiences with those MHB46?


Posted By: Copa disco
Date Posted: 18 March 2015 at 1:06pm
Any updates?
eq , stacking, xover tips?
How modern house music, trap and moombhaton music is sound in stacks of 4?
How is it performing Indoor and outdoor?



Posted By: slaith
Date Posted: 20 March 2015 at 4:10pm
I did some measurements on the boxes and came to some modifications that would work really good.
Though I have to admit I havent gotten around to doing them yet.

It includes making the port a bit narrower but extend it all the way to the sides, I made a lid on the top for the driver.
Making a much larger flare both at the front and back of the port, at least 30mm or more.
Then extend the port as much at you can until you just can pass the driver for mounting.
I did sims in hornresp and I think the final length is about 350mm or something.

The result is that the port response is much wider and deeper, now it's at narrow peak.
It doesn't matter that it's not the same amplitude, it will give more depth and a better response.

When I finally get around to it, I will do A-B measurements of course.

I run my boxes with the recommended HP crossover of 35Hz 24dB/oct LR I think
And 120 Hz 24dB/oct LR, which works great, it's a good allround box for me.

I run just two, and could actually use two more to get a little more SPL.
The drivers are RCF 18G401, rated at 900rms.
I drive them with a Proline 3000 bridged and the boxes in parallell, up until clipping.
So I give them 1500W each and they just take it, smells of voice coil laquer sometimes but it's all good. Smile

For me it's a great allround box for bigger gigs and partys.

My 2 cents.


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 20 March 2015 at 4:29pm
..build two more before you kill the 1st pair!!!!!!!!!!!! lol




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