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Topic: show off dodgy electrics
Posted By: mykey-
Subject: show off dodgy electrics
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:39pm
plenty more to come, but thought I'd start off with this. If this person has children, he/she should be locked up
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:52pm
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Not really unsafe, just silly! http://www.flickr.com/photos/67442697@N04/6391940443/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/67442697@N04/6391940443/" rel="nofollow - IMAG0072 by http://www.flickr.com/people/67442697@N04/" rel="nofollow - chaudio , on Flickr |
Posted By: ermita
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:55pm
Clever eh.
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Posted By: ermita
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 3:58pm
I think I use bucket instead.
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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 5:09pm
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mykey- wrote:Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 5:34pm
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Those Swiss plugs are well annoying. I wish I'd have thought of that rather than payed for a converter in CHF.
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 6:45am
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Posted By: GUSTEK
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 7:58am
typical job... mains to house done by the diy everythin old gre ------------- -bun down babylon- |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 9:24am
| Amazing, too cheap for a junction box. |
Posted By: freeytrap
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 12:35am
buzzing pool party 
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Posted By: VSS
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 6:04pm
You don't need plugs . Works fine as is .
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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 6:34pm
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Little selection for you...          ------------- “The fact is this is about identifying what we do best and finding more ways of doing less of it better” |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 6:51pm
This guy: ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: Tedski
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 2:35am
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A while ago I was in Ethiopia for a 2 week visit, I saw some amazing electrics: This was in a building which had multiple small businesses:   Something I saw in a bar:  And more disturbingly, the 'shower' my girlfriend had been using for months (the water is heated in the showerhead):    |
Posted By: lost eden
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 11:03am
| Some of these are funny, but that shower head is just genuinely terrifying >.< |
Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 29 May 2012 at 7:07pm
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I know we all moan and complain about regs sometimes but the above pics show why they're there... well, some of them anyway!
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Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 6:10am
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yep, too true Djeddie That shower rose water heater contraption, how on earth will it heat water quick enough? it would have to be as hot as the sun for the speed water will travel through it. What a very silly 3rd world design. ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 8:45am
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that showerhead thing is mental! Wouldnt catch me anywhere near that!!! on the other hand, 22.5amps should be enough power in a hot country to warm water up on the fly, isnt much less then UK showers. Strange old design though, something tells me ill never see one of them in the UK!! ------------- ''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it'' ''Dubstep - an elongated electronic fart'' |
Posted By: rich_gale
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 9:10am
pure gold. ------------- REFLEX ALL THE WAY.... (however, im playing with horns again...) That ok Mister Valiant? :) |
Posted By: brokenjoe
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 9:40am
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couldn't isolate a particular bit of dodgy electrics.. so heres the whole country. i'm sure there are plenty of other countries, but every time i work here, i'm surprised i come back! 
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 10:44am
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Not really concerned with electrics but seeing the map of Spain reminded me of the time I was in Madrid doing a speaker exhibition, and inside the building, people were erecting their stands. Someone had an angle grinder cutting some steel tubes, this seemed so intense as flames were more or less shooting right across the gangway, and landing straight on a pile of polystyrene packaging. No one was batting an eyelid. My thoughts were, only in Spain. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 30 May 2012 at 11:05am
My father in law is Spanish, I've pulled him up on some pretty shocking wiring round his house. Like the neutrals commoned behind a lightswitch by just twisting them together. Or the electric fire being powered off a very neatly coiled and cable tied length of 0.75mm cable - a more effective heater than the appliance itself! There's plenty more! |
Posted By: Tedski
Date Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:44am
Mykey, you are assuming there is actually water pressure thats gets anything close to a decent shower. Taking showers in Addis Ababa consists of timing between actually having power and actually having some water pressure.  Edit: schpehling |
Posted By: geez
Date Posted: 01 June 2012 at 4:58pm
You can actually work it out, I remember this from school physics (a very long time ago). The specific heat capacity of water is approx 4.2 joules per gram per degree C, in other words a 4200 watt heater (100% efficient) would raise the temperature of 1 litre of water by 1 degree C in 1 second. ------------- You don't always get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get. |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:05pm
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New bar/resto building site. I'm installing new sound feeding from this to other 4 gangs and repeating again  ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:13pm
What? You´re working on the Olympics ® site?  ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:15pm
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Lucky I didn't need any power. Just feeding cable runs
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:15pm
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Are plugs very expensive where you are Mykey? ------------- Keep pushing on, things are gonna get better. |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 3:23pm
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Bali
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Posted By: dj elite
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 4:50pm
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Damn do these people not realise its a lot safer if you use matchsticks to hold the wires in. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 8:36pm
Look at his feet. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 8:41pm
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its a wonder he never got BBQ-d ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE 
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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 9:57pm
Heres some electrical dodgyness at a place I'm doing some work at the moment. All of the live sockets are like this. I found this to be the source of a strange burning smell! the plug in this picture was smoking a bit, and was so hot I couldnt touch it! The top part of the fuse was more or less melted through the front of the plug! th 1.5mm flex was kinda toasty and very soft!  That socket after the plug was removed...  And the plug afterwards!  Connected to the end of that extention reel was a 3kw heater, a 2.2kw heater a 500w floodlight a table saw and a hoover! I worked out that they were pulling a sustained load of 24 amps through that poor 13a plug! It had been managing this for some hours aparently, and quite a few times before hence the 3 burnt out sockets around! they just kept sticking new fuses in and carrying on till they popped, until the plug could take it no more and completely burned out the live pin. I'm quite surprised that socket didnt catch fire! I was fully expecting to walk past and see flames. Madness! ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 10:13pm
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Good job it was not connected to Shaggers diss board ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 10:27pm
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I was sat around my partners friends the other month in the living room after a pretty hanging night. The door rang she answered it and came back in to the room my partner asked who's this? She replied its my mums turkish boy freind come to fix my washing machine he was an electrician in Turkey. I continued to watch south park in a pretty harsh state. Next thing I hear a lot of banging. I go out and have a look and he is in her kitchen with the consumer unit apart trying to bend the buzz bar in her 100a single phase consumer unit to replace the 32MCB feeding her kitchen for a 100A 3ph RCD......... I promptly tell him to go sit down... put the consumer unit back together and connect the neutral back in the 13A which was causing the RCD to trip on the washing machine and sit my arse back down to watch more South Park ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 13 November 2012 at 10:28am
Would have still burnt up.....
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Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 13 November 2012 at 11:00am
| I love this thread |
Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 13 November 2012 at 2:46pm
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The worst thing I ever saw was whilst working on a Strawberry Farm in Kent one summer, whilst a Student. I was in charge of irrigation, and had been given a This was 1995, so plenty of people redundant from recession, and my helper was an ex city type in his 50s, so couldn't be told anything by some spotty 18 YO. I told him to carry the 30ft long pipes horizontal to the ground, as you could carry more, easier. He insisted on carrying them perpendicular to the ground, and straight into the 3 phase HT overhead lines feeding the entire farm!!! The only injuries he sustained were temporary blindness from the flash, and a bang on the head from the 2ft section of pipe which was arc cut off the end of the pipe. Luckily his clothes and ground were so wet from recent irrigation, that current flowed through them, rather than him, and he didn't feel a thing. We watched from the other end of the field, and were certain he was a gonna. Lucky bastard. ------------- Matt Stolton - Technical Director (!!!) - http://www.wildingsound.co.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilding Sound Ltd "Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains" |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 13 November 2012 at 5:34pm
Understatement of the century! A VERY f**kin lucky bastard I'd say.
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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 9:37pm
Now THATs a fuse;
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Posted By: Spartan Audio
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 9:40pm
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Please tell me you took that picture yourself as a joke?
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 9:43pm
..big girl!!!!... its not even switched on.... ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 9:45pm
Nope, was looking for a bit of info for another thread and came across this.
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Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 10:03pm
At least it's a metal drill bit rather than a wood one! I would now like to apologise for the dire humour in the above sentence. I will now stand in the corner with my hands on my head. ------------- Chas n Dave : it's like Drum and Bass but with beards. E=mc² ±3dB |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 10:18pm
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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 12:44am
I think I know whats wrong - is it that the face plate doesn't match the back box and so electricity can get out at the corners? ------------- Keep pushing on, things are gonna get better. |
Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 12:51am
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Yes thats it! And also the drill bit has been wrongly forced in to the rectangular pins plug, isn't it obvious the drill would fit straight into the round holes on the socket next to it? ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:03am
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Oh right, I thought the arrow indicated the correct orientation of the fusedrill - there is a lot to learn isn't there?
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Posted By: mattd
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:17am
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Hired a 110kva from big french generator company (GAY generators). It came with a MALE 63/3 Plug on the tail. I was very unimpressed.
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Posted By: VentureSound
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:17am
| Actually this reminds me.... how many of you have seen plugs where a muppet has put the Neutral in the bottom of the pin, rather than the top (imagine as if looking at the above picture) then trying to force the plug top on and shove that pesky neutral out the way. |
Posted By: JohnnyPyro
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:44am
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i remember a friend of mine years ago.. built some home made lighting gear for his photo studio .. rang me and said he had some sort of static probs .. when i have a look he has wired the lamps with 2 core .. 1 in live and one in earth!! .. this is in the days of the wired fuse boards ... he got called a dumb lady flaps ... a lot!! ------------- Pyrotechnics... its not rocket science, well.... actually it is !! :o) Powered by MC2 & XTA |
Posted By: George C
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:24pm
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not dodgy - but unsure where this pic belongs... looks cool  ------------- happiness is a ticked off list |
Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 4:49pm
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Nice, OCD nice. ------------- music is the message |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 5:02pm
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 5:11pm
so with these linked togethor is the appliance now seeing 4 ohms? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:01pm
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now your just being silly... it was done so he could get 26amp out of a 13amp supply.... ROFLMAO it was drilled in to him as a young sparky....
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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 7:01pm
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Nah, 28 amps! the socket on the right is a 15 amp one init! ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 7:13pm
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..thought so but its been a while since iv been up with my head in the theatre lights trussing... lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 7:55pm
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Posted By: Ras Loud
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 11:36am
Yes, it's great. When I want to burn my house down to get money from the insurance, I finally know how to connect the electrics. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 11:43am
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ah yes it will be 28a as he is correctly bridging the out puts..... ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: RUS
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 11:50am
you wouldnt happen to have a contact number for them by anychance. ?
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Posted By: Ras Loud
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 11:53am
I guess it must be them: http://www.gay-electricite.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.gay-electricite.com/ Maybe you get lower prices if it's for a gay party. |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 12:53pm
I´m not if this should go here, or in the Consumer Unit thread, but here´s one I did for some friends. They live in a small village, still supplied by a 110V transformer, so to get 220V, it´s phase-phase!    I can´t remember why I put in the Phase - Neutral link on the RCB - I think that the local sparkie there insisted on that. I meant to test if it was really needed, but have never gotten round to it. So far, I don´t think anyone has been electrocuted, but I did have a bit of fun when they decided to have a party in their garden (with groups playing) and asked me to do the rig. IIRC, I had to put in an earth stake next to the stage to make sure that no one got any shocks off the mics... ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: amlu
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 4:33pm
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looks well dodgy. you better call an electrician in before someone gets electrocuted :( |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 5:08pm
Me?  That unit has been in use for around 10 years now and so far no corpses... ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 9:29am
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I don't see a huge problem with it, guess quite a lot of the US runs like it? Biggest concern is that there will be a large neutral return current to the village transformer if phases aren't balanced but that's the electricity boards issue. If nothing has caught fire in 10 years then no worries. I would be very keen on solid earth connections for the lot though. And you would need to be aware that the single phase neutral wasn't really that anymore if modifying any of it. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 10:16am
 See, no neutral. A current imbalance will cause a secondary current. Otherwise  ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 10:41am
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Hmm, so each phase sources and sinks current in alternate cycles then - push pull? With phases approximately balanced across houses connected to the transformer? |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 11:00am
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The image above is a differential current transformer. For Mr earplugs RCD. Hum. The link you fitted to the neutral may only be required to operate the test switch, however some TPN RCD's test with a resistor across phases, so no link required. No lets all have a great debate ( heated argument) about RCD's again. Where is Shaggers!More important is did you test the RCD from a socket outlet?
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 11:31am
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No arguments here, please! I´ll take another look at it next time I´m down there and maybe do a few tests to see if the RCD trips without the link. The earth line is solid - I think we put in 2 x 2m copper stakes in the garden - you can see the line (yellow cable) coming in through the bottom of the distro box. I know that there was some talk about replacing/upgrading the transformer, but with the crisis...  ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 3:00pm
Yarr, the image is pretty simple. I get that no probs. I was just thinking aloud of what happens when you power a 230V circuit from two 110V phases. And I guess the answer is that each phase takes it in turn to source or sink current every half cycle + there is no net current flow. Would be funny till the day you bought an earth-neutral bonded device. Now I know that shouldn't happen but I bet there are some out there. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 3:09pm
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I just woke up too. Apart from a socket RCD test Mr. Earplug, what was the voltage? If you have 3 phase 110V phase to phase is more in the order of 187V, not 220. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 5:36pm
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AFAIA no where in the world uses 110v apart from UK building sites and best of luck get 200V of that.
The States uses 120V which gives nominal 208V (golden scans, troopers etc all run 208V out there) I don't seen what dodgy here, more a lack of under standing of the coutires wiring topology.
Off shore Europe is in Stavanger every other year and we Bi-phase on Memsheild board using standard 4pole RCDs to get 220V
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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 6:21pm
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Like all mains voltages, these are 'nominal' values. Also, most of the power we get here comes from France, so I think that the original 11kV lines were upgraded to (French) 13kV, which raised all the nominal voltages about 10V-15V. "AFAIA no where in the world uses 110v apart from UK building sites and best of luck get 200V of that." There are definitely still a few place down here that have old (nominal) 110V supplies. TEST YOUR MAINS! ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 6:54pm
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3 phase voltage = single phase voltage x square root 3 ------------- Kevin North Staffordshire |
Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 9:05pm
At least he has the drill bit pointing the right way. ------------- NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 2:35pm
Ok, taken me a while but I´ve found these - this happened about 3 years ago, gig at a village with a standard 230V supply. This kind of distro is common around here - on wheels and shared by various villages during their fiestas:  Note the cable/s at bottom right - they go to a small distro with 3 x Schukos, which you can just about make out at the bottom left. The unit had been used at a village with a 110V supply, so the clever sparkie connected the Schukos Phase-Phase, for the karaoke/disco, or whatever they´d had there. Unfortunately, he then forgot to put them back were they belonged, so when I tested, found around 400V! Clever...  ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: freeytrap
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 7:36pm
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nuf said |
Posted By: freeytrap
Date Posted: 11 December 2012 at 5:20pm
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try again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqxtDC-VAg8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqxtDC-VAg8 |
Posted By: RMS
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 6:51am
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the worlds smallest step down transformer ------------- Over 90% of your items say "MADE IN CHINA" |
Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 2:14pm
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actually just an inductor acting as a current limiter. still puts 240v on your welding rod if thats what you wire it into. the world's smallest welding machine with only two settings, "DIE" or "DIE NOT!" ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 5:07pm
So it should be ok with a 110v supply - and some decent rubber gloves! ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 5:17pm
they should be sued. Kids could get near that ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 5:33pm
If only! To be fair, the thing was closed and padlocked (which I had to cut off) - and there is a big (yellow) warning notice in there...  ------------- Earplugs Are For Wimps! |
Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 22 December 2012 at 9:56pm
I bought a new smoke machine the other day, nothing fancy, its just for the odd mobile disco I do, but anyway the power cable supplied had a schuko connector and this is the adaptor they supplied;
  Needless to say, its gone straight in the bin!!
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Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 31 December 2012 at 5:32pm
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Posted By: FlipC
Date Posted: 31 December 2012 at 10:25pm
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Is that some weird bird next in the making? |
Posted By: jackSpug
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 2:07am
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can someone explain whats going on with the bottom distro in this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Olson-Power-Supply-Distribution-unit-Rack-mount-Server-job-lot-of-3-/251201013099?pt=UK_Computing_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item3a7cbf456b" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Olson-Power-Supply-Distribution-unit-Rack-mount-Server-job-lot-of-3-/251201013099?pt=UK_Computing_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item3a7cbf456b ------------- two people use this account |
Posted By: stitchy
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 2:20am
| they're to keep cables from being pulled out. they lift up |
Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 9:56am
Have used them, in Voice Alarm racks. The metal clips retain the IEC plug, so they can't fall out. What is more distressing, is that it is not fused! Bare in mind I had 6mm H07 from a 32A Cee form, feeding into din rail. Then din rail onto this "distro" and then .75mm2 off the shelf IEC to IEC leads to amps/routers etc!! I snagged the manufacturer on this, and he quoted me some BS/EN number which said it was OK (to use short 0.75mm leads off of 32A), but they were looking into an alternative. ------------- Matt Stolton - Technical Director (!!!) - http://www.wildingsound.co.uk" rel="nofollow - Wilding Sound Ltd "Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains" |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 23 June 2013 at 12:11am
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on this sort of theme I ent no sparky but i brought a flight case-rack ages ago and it had a 20a powercon socket-NAC3MPA wired to 3x permaplug 4 way 12 sockets in total attached to inside of the case , each 4way was fused 13a is this safe? great soldering skills getting 3 wires to each mains terminal on powercon socket i suppose it only like a 12gang extension lead? was this safe? ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 23 June 2013 at 1:19pm
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No, that's not safe, the Powercon is only good for 20A and you could draw up to 39A before those fuses blow. Although the feed to the Powercon itself would have to cut off before this - either by blowing its fuse if it's a 13A>powercon lead, or by tripping the breaker if it's 16A>powercon....if it's a 32A>powercon, well that's also an unsafe lead. ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: jbinks-v2
Date Posted: 23 June 2013 at 4:39pm
Not true. PowerCon is designed to be protected UPstream. The source will be limited to 20a. You could make a PowerCon to 300x 13a socket if you like. As long as you made it properly then it would be perfectly safe. Everything is protected by the 20 limit "before" the PowerCon. Individual devices are further protected by their own plugtop fuses (13a, 5a etc.). It's exactly the same scenario as a household mains "ring" with tons of 13a outlets on a single supply protected by the 32a breaker/fuse. The main issue is likely to be that the connection of 3 separate cables into a single PowerCon inlet will not be up to scratch. This should be done using a suitable terminal block designed for the task.
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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 23 June 2013 at 5:19pm
Spot on.......
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Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 25 June 2013 at 5:55am
To be honest, I wasn't sure if I should post this pic here or start a new thread for dodgy plumbing......
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Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 25 June 2013 at 5:59am
Hard hat, harness....nothing dodgy about this at all. Great for bass jumping though, or on a site for sound, maybe that should be bass jumping...... I'll get Mykey's taxi
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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 25 June 2013 at 3:35pm
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I think you mean B.A.S.E. jumping, Bass jumping can only be done off speaker stacks!
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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 25 June 2013 at 4:09pm
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I'd want a lanyard on my spanner, it's a long way down to go and get it again! |
Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 04 September 2013 at 5:45pm
Spot the slight issue with this shower..... Holy shit!!! |