Build pics of soundsystem
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Topic: Build pics of soundsystem
Posted By: TuffRyder
Subject: Build pics of soundsystem
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:19am
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Hi everybody.
This weekend I started to build my soundsystem. We did 4 hog scoops over the weekend. Just wanted to share some pics from the build.
Next up we´re going to build a modified version of the MT122. I´ll add pics from that build as well.
              //Tuff
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:52am
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Is that mdf? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:56am
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Yes it is. 22 mm mdf.
//Tuff
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Posted By: eltron
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:57am
Is this a rethorical question?
Nevertheless, that's some quality carpentry going on there!
Wouldn't want to be the one to move those around though...
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nuclearbass wrote:Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 9:07am
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Thanks! I´m fortunate to have friends that are carpenters and have access to both tools and a woodshop.
They´re pretty heavy but not as heavy as anticipated. We´ve put som wheels on them so they´re easier to move around.
//Tuff
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 9:35am
no mate, far from it, i couldnt make it out on my phone, ive always said my 1st builds are guna be mdf. 22mm thick, i bet thats heavy..... ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 9:54am
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I haven´t put them on a scale yet but I guess they´re about 130-140 kg unloaded. When loaded they probably weigh around 150-160 kg. 22 mm mdf weigh about 18 kg/m2. One sheet weigh 52 kg and we´ve used about 10-11 sheets for all 4 cabs.
They´re stable as hell though...
//Tuff
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Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 9:55am
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Plywood:
750-800 kg/m3
Chipboard:
450-470kg/m3
MDF:
750-900kg/m3 ------------- Support the scoop technology, larger mouth plays louder! |
Posted By: tamuks
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:17am
 nice work hey as for the Kgs never mind as long as it sounds good hey!!
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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:27am
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Loads of layers of paint and they should be fine. Also if they get scratched during transit to the bare wood make sure it dont get wet and repair the scratch straight away. Quality build and Im sure you wore a mask whilst cutting and sanding!!!!
------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:30am
 ply ent exactly light weight.. Very nice build btw..cool
------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE 
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Posted By: tamuks
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:33am
 if u want to make that Mfd extra strong .just put two coats of Resin 901 sand them and paint them they will be full proof from bumps ,scratches,and water damage
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Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:52am
Thanks! These are our first cabs and I haven´t build anything like this before. Our goal was to make really stable and stiff cabs so weight wasn´t an issue.
Thanks! We got a really good deal on mdf.
We haven´t sanded them yet. Paint and sanding will be done coming weekend. As for masks - we had a really good vacuum system in the woodshop and didn´t really need any masks.
Thanks for the tip! I´ll also put some aluminium edges on for extra protection.
//Tuff
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nice work hey as for the Kgs never mind as long as it sounds good hey!!
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 11:18am
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I would think twice about aluminium edging. You won't find any Pro cabs with this on. The main reason I personally wouldn't do it, is because the boxes can trash each other. In my time, I have seen many cabs with damage done by protective edging. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 11:29am
^ Not only does it make repainting them a total pain,as to do it neatly,all the edging has to be masked-up,it's also lethal to fingers when it starts to get worn,producing pinched needle-like shards that rip your hands when you handle them,i found that out the hard way. 
------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: hmaudio
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 11:36am
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very nice build you dont see many people using a biscuit joiner these days, talking of mdf cabs has anyone ever used that mdf edging paint? got a 5L tin of it here but no idea if its what it says on the tin as i cant imagine a paint making at any stronger?? ------------- Nottingham based cab builder. https://www.facebook.com/HMAudio-154352667920145/?ref=bookmarks This account is used by 2 people. |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 12:00pm
Never thought of it that way. I´ve always figured that pro cabs didn´t have them cos´they´re coated in either felt or some other rugged material. Thanks for the input!
Doesn´t sound that pleasant. Maybe I´ll just coat them with resin or some other form av rugged paint.
We used the biscuit joiner throughout the horn but to be sure we used screws as well and a lot of glue.. The outer side of the cab is just glued with a whole lot of glue and screwed with the screw about 10 cm apart. We also dipped the screws in glue before we put them in. I don´t think that this cab will break or come apart anytime soon... :-)
//Tuff
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Posted By: JACKTHETRIPPER
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 12:44pm
| very nice build |
Posted By: tamuks
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 6:09am
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Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 8:56am
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My speakers are protected with welded on 1.5-2mm thick angle iron (18x18mm), these are clamped whilst being welded so as to eliminte rattling. this has to be done in the tropics as systems get worked hard there and the edges get damaged quite easily. Not saying this is for you, but certain situations call for this.
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 9:04am
wow i bet there back breakers them bud ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 9:28am
They're not much heavier with the metal as surprisingly the metal is not that heavy, but the lads love music as much as Brits loves football so they will lift them 
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Posted By: smoore
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 9:39am
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+1 on the no metal corners! Got some cabinets with it on the other day and already grazes down my arms cus of em!.... Also, fiberglassing/using resin on cabinets. Will this dramatically increase the weight of them? I'm considering building a backup system purely out of mdf (because I cant afford a whole new birch system again!).. How about Yaght varnish? I used this once ages ago and it held up realllly well from what i can remember
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Posted By: AUDIO HABIT
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 10:48am
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Looks great ------------- https://www.facebook.com/fxstageproductions |
Posted By: Herb-i
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 5:35pm
Quality build there fella  Keith |
Posted By: AM55
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 5:41pm
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For a hard wearing finish you might want to look at truck bed liner. Never used it myself and it doesn't seem to be sold much in the UK but I have read about it being used in the US as a finish for DIY cabs. ------------- https://diy-disco.co" rel="nofollow - Audio Visual Equipment Hire Service |
Posted By: tamuks
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 5:56pm
guys we all know that the vanished cabs look nice with the wood finish but as for me vanish on cabs it too old skool and they can catch fire easly when worse comes to worst .coz some years back l still remember one 600watt sub catching fire after over powering it with a 10kw amp and the papercone went to flames nearly burnt the whole cab luckly we had a fire extinguisher on our gear? . as for weight you can only add something like 500gms on your cab depending on the size .only apply resin only with no fiber matting and u can use pigment for the colour of your choice
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Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 6:25pm
Thanks!
I thought of that as well but I have no idea where I can get some. I´m not based in the UK but Sweden and I´m pretty sure that that truck bed liner isn´t availiable here.. Anyways. I´ve settled for some resin. Couldn´t get hold of resin 901 bur I found something that is equal to it. //Tuff |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 26 June 2012 at 10:19am
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Here´s som pics of our version of the MT121. From the beginning we planned on making a version of MT122´s but we realized that there would be some hight issues and decided to build them as singles instead. Didn´t really have time to take lots of pics. We´ve spent about 2 evenings and got one cab almost finished and all the other parts for the remaining 3 cabs.
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Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 26 June 2012 at 10:20am
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Oh and the cab on the pics isn´t glewed or screwed yet. Only dry mounted.
//Tuff
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Posted By: inter-sound
Date Posted: 26 June 2012 at 1:25pm
| Speedliner is the biggest name in "truck bed" liners and also stupidly expensive, my friend works with this stuff all the time in a custom car bodyshop place and even with free labour it worked out far too expensive just to do 12 punishers |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 26 June 2012 at 7:54pm
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Posted By: Vert
Date Posted: 26 June 2012 at 8:21pm
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Nice and neat joinery ------------- Box builder, pm for quote |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 June 2012 at 10:56pm
Some more pics.      |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 27 June 2012 at 11:06pm
great work fella... not sure on the weights shown, the mdf sheets i use are a lot heavier than birch ply.... i can chuck a full sheet of birch ply around on my own with ease........ a full sheet of mdf gets me sweating a bit...... give then 3 coats of waterproof pva before you spray them this helps keep them dry. I would all so undercoat them with a 2part filler primer...... keep up the good work.....
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 27 June 2012 at 11:10pm
Birch ply 18mmRUSSIAN BIRCH PLYWOOD SIZE (H x W) 2400mm X 1200mm THICKNESS 18 mm WEIGHT 36 Kgs FACE B Grade (very smooth, may have oval patch) BACK B Grade (very smooth, may have oval patch) GLUE TYPE Exterior Grade. Phenolic A Bond (Water Proof) MDF
wow just checked with my supplier.... not much difference...... shocked..... feels alot more,
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Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 9:41am
Build is finally finished!!  |
Posted By: GekoMusic94
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 10:19am
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well done mate!! how does it sounds?? ------------- https://soundcloud.com/dj-uber |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 10:25am
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Wicked looking set!!!! ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 10:55am
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It sounds GREAT! Big punchy and controlled base, and pretty much the samt with the kick bins. Mid sounds really clear and criss and the tweeter boxes sounds good as well. I have one more tweeterbox but it´s not loaded yet. But it will be a welcome addition cos´the tweeters could use just a little bit more power. The police came and asked us to lower the volume because people 1.2 miles away were disturbed. //Tuff |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 10:59am
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They look like 1" comps? You also seem to have non phase plugged mid horns ? What are the X-over points.
------------- www.forteaudio.eu - BMS - db-Mark Processors - Lexon (SAE) |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 11:46am
The tweeters are Monacor 152´s. I´m not really sure what non phase plugged mid horns are..? The bin is based on Mt 121 and then modified. They´re lodaded with PD 121´s and driven by a Matrix XT4004EQ. Xover points: 18" 20-86 15" 87-200 12" 201-5900 1" 5901-20.000 //Tuff |
Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 12:13pm
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looks nice an tidy ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 12:16pm
You will need something to fill in 800-2000 or rethink the comp and horns, Tony ------------- www.forteaudio.eu - BMS - db-Mark Processors - Lexon (SAE) |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 12:39pm
I think it sounds great as it is and for the type of music it´s built for. But I guess you´re never really finished with your rig. //Tuff |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 12:44pm
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It's your baby you have the right to have it sounding exactly as you want :) Tony ------------- www.forteaudio.eu - BMS - db-Mark Processors - Lexon (SAE) |
Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 1:56pm
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Hi Tomas.
very nice build indeed. always like to see pics of a good diy.
i dont think you gonna get the best out of the 12" running them up to 5.9k. there only good up to about 800/850hz and thereafter drops badly. you will probably need to get a good comp that drops low enough to meet the 12" or build another cab that takes care of the 800hz to +- 3- 4k depending on what you use. i personally would use a good comp that will drop down to 800hz.
i dont mean to criticise your system, but just giving my opinion from building similar setups to what you have.
what are the 15" by the way?
Rish
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Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 5:55pm
| I've put the xover that high since the speakers go up to 6khz and were described as a good speaker for vocals and such. I know that no human can go that high but for our trial run that sounded great. Compared to some other reggae soundsystems it sounds very clear. I'll try some other xover points next time we play. |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 6:00pm
| I don't mean to sound grumpy. I do appreciate the input. |
Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 6:00pm
The speakers might but the horn they're in won't, which is what Tony Wilkes was alluding to in his post I'd imagine. That is where the phase plug comes into it. But if you're happy with the sound then that is all that matters. Congrats on your build. ------------- Chas n Dave : it's like Drum and Bass but with beards. E=mc² ±3dB |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 6:09pm
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the 121s will propably play up to 6khz (hill and valley curve) but the dispersion gets narrower the higher it plays. To match the comps dispersion you should cross lower! Just try playing with 1x 12" Horn. Start at 6khz cutoff and reduce it till 1khz - there should be a significant difference in dispersion. You should hear a sweet spot that offers the full range at just one position infront of the speaker... I would go for 3x12", crossed below 1khz and find matching horns/comps that have almost the same dispersion as the 12" at that freq. to match their dispersion at x-over point. This way it will sound pretty even allover the place/ infront of the stack. btw. why have you chosen this "kick"bins? |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 6:09pm
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Yeah that might well be the case. I just figured that since it's a horn design it would go pretty high but I'll try to work around with the xover points a little bit. To be honest I'm pretty spent (both money wise and body wise) and it'll be some months before we build more speakers. //Tuff |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 6:13pm
| I went for those kick bins cos' they seemed to fit the rest of the gear and were easy to build. |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 27 August 2012 at 7:14pm
Yep, that part of the system needs a bit of a rethink but as the OP has obviously put a lot of work and probably money into the system I did not want it to come across as a lecture. Can only suggest that in future anybody considering doing a system on this scale with fairly limited knowledge asks a few questions first as it can possibly save a few frustrations. However I have a lot of respect for you getting off your arse and getting the work done and not just talking and talking about it. When I think back to my first DIY efforts and the junk that I built then I would have welcomed a bit of advice. Tony ------------- www.forteaudio.eu - BMS - db-Mark Processors - Lexon (SAE) |
Posted By: jjpa
Date Posted: 28 August 2012 at 7:49pm
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A little tip when buying MDF, good quality MDF should be dark in color and smooth like glass when you run your finger over the surface, if it's light in color and feels textured don't touch it with a barge pole, it will fall apart and absorb water like a sponge. I work in a builders merchant and allways check the pack as soon as I take it off the lorry. john ------------- The music is only to loud when it's distorted!!! |
Posted By: mykey-
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 12:20am
You're missing from around 800 - 6k  and don't forget, @6k the dispersion will be way off nice looking rig, just needs a little bit more added to it ------------- BbbBBRAAAAPppBBBBbgushhhhhhhhssshhhhhGrAbRAAAAAAPPPPPp = Dubstep |
Posted By: Crewing.d
Date Posted: 04 September 2012 at 8:23pm
| Nice build |
Posted By: tedrostarr
Date Posted: 14 September 2012 at 2:37am
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nice.. maybe a video upload of your set wld be cool. Just use a smartphone .. :) nuff Respect though..it looks good ------------- .:Uprising Sounds:. |
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:52am
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:53am
Posted By: TuffRyder
Date Posted: 05 October 2012 at 11:54am
I´ve posted a couple of videos. They´re shot with my iPhone so the quality isn´t that good.
//Tuff
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Posted By: ODea
Date Posted: 30 November 2012 at 5:14pm
| Love the look of the Hogs, super mean |
Posted By: Nemesis
Date Posted: 01 December 2012 at 4:56pm
| How much did you spend on this system or what was the budget? Loving the look like ODea said Super mean! Good work!!! |
Posted By: mip
Date Posted: 03 August 2013 at 9:02am
| Hi mate. Where can i buy resin 901 as dont know where i would get it from and having to paint the outside if my cabs every couple of outings at the moment :) |