mini/micro scoop plans.
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Forum Name: Scoops
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Topic: mini/micro scoop plans.
Posted By: markie
Subject: mini/micro scoop plans.
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:44pm
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I got a couple of Fane Crescendo 15"s off E-Bay, and would like to make up some small-ish bass bins. I keep seeing reference to mini and micro scoops, can anyone let me have some plans? Also would the HD15s be suitable for this driver. ------------- If it's got wheels or tits it's gonna cost a fortune |
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Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 8:56pm
Well im building some microscoops, but PD156's are going in mine 
Here are the plans: http://groups.msn.com/SpeakerBuildingpics/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18 Thanks, Joe. |
Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 6:51am
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can't get to those plans, anyone got any others???? ------------- If it's got wheels or tits it's gonna cost a fortune |
Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 6:59am
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Hope this works! |
Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 10:25am
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How do you know what angels there are ??? I need some to help out, iv got 4 PD 156 waiting to go in these cabs. ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 12:17pm
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 6:59pm
Your a Star !!! 
So are these a RCF Copy ? ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 12:37am
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 6:04am
No, these are an original design but there is a RCF 18" copy on the same website. ------------- 
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CHAMPION wrote:Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 6:24am
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oky ...thanks....Q. so if these are the orignal RFC design, wont the RCF driver used in these cabs sound better, than a PD etc, as the box and drivers parameters are a match.
Also KV2 has their version of this design aswell...
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 6:40am
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you would think so. i'm not sure weather RCF use the L18S800 or the L18P300 in those particular boxes.
one of my pairs of T18's are loaded with L18P300's and they sound fantastic. -------------
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 8:37am
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hmmm oky..so what do you rekon wiill sound good in thoes micro scoop cabs..PD156 or 1550, of 18 sound drivers ?? Rather than buying the Rcf driver ? Any suggestions ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 8:49am
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i dont think there are many people who have built these 15" mini scoops so i guess if i had to decide on a driver i would look at what is popular in full size scoops and use the 15" equivalent. PD156 sounds good or maybe Fane Colossus 15XB.
edit: lots of discussion here regarding scoop drivers
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6387 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6387 -------------
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Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 28 October 2006 at 4:23pm
You told us you made a pair of micro scooper 15's with PD156 in them and they beated a pair of T18's and B-lines.
Hmm and now your asking what drivers will sound good in them cabs. Sounds like you didn't make a pair at all.
"Thoes Micro - scoops are Very good, I made a pair loaded with PD156, if I had to compare, the sound is close to a folded horn. I would say the Micro scoops have a deeper punchyer Bass than the B-Lines and the T-18's.
im going to make some more soon. The Punishers will offcourse have the best Bass Line !". You said this at the bottom of this page: http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6051&PN=5 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6051&PN=5 |
Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 5:58am
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well spotted Toxic, i would say its clear from Champions posts in this thread that he has indeed never built any of stapiers micro scoops. -------------
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 6:18am
I just wanted to see what your thoughts were ! im happy with a pd in these cabs but id just see what you guys would say!! So its seems i was right  I havent got any Rcf drivers, so they could have sounded better than a PD as this cab is a Rcf clone !!!------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: 29 October 2006 at 6:25am
Oh great - i was reccomended to use PD156's in the Microscoops by CHAMPION and really he dosent have a clue what they would sound like  
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Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 12:43am
So did you or didn't you, actually build the micro scooper 15's and load them with PD156? Cos from this post you made it sounds like you didn't.
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Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 12:44am
Yeah it sounds like he didn't make them judging by this post.
Anyway the PD156 does look like a good driver for scoops. I know from experience that the Fane 15XB works well in 15 inch scoops. But not sure if it would work well in the micro scooper 15 though.
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Posted By: soundsystemdan
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 6:55am
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Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 30 October 2006 at 7:12am
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LOL..Just to clearify, Im happy with the PD156 or 1550. If you look in the forsale section I have some 15" Scoops forsale, now I have tryed Fane xb, eminence and pd out of them the pd overall works well and sounds great, this is the reason why iv choosen the pd for the Microscoop !!
I anint got any Rcf drivers I aint heard them in the microscoop, so from my experence with the scoops, the pd 156 or 1550 will sound good in the microscoop !!
UNLESS anyone else has heard any other driver which sounds better !
Which by the looks of no one has !
So final verdict...PD156 or 1550 ------------- Sticks n Stones |
Posted By: soundsystemdan
Date Posted: 31 October 2006 at 2:54pm
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So what do these things sound like? are they deep? punchy? kicky? - or are they like bigger scopps in losing the kick through cancellations? Are they like 15" reflex, 18" reflex, horn loaded, bandpass or what? How low can you go with a stack of 4? Does anyone have any response plots? ------------- http://dancomsound.com" rel="nofollow - http://dancomsound.com |