Dip Switche Settings for Stairville 10mm LED Pars
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Topic: Dip Switche Settings for Stairville 10mm LED Pars
Posted By: SamV
Subject: Dip Switche Settings for Stairville 10mm LED Pars
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 12:14pm
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Anyone know what the dip switch positions are to set the par can to DMX mode? |
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 12:28pm
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quick question, do you find them nice and bright? do they "strobe" well? just asking im getting the stairville 24x3w LED ones next year and it nice to her your opinion on the 10mm LED ones. ..sorry for the side track ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 12:45pm
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Haven't used them yet, I'll tell you tomorrow. The 24x3 should be very nice! |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 12:57pm
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ok had a look.... set dip 1 to on and all other to off next can set dip 2 to on all others off next can 1+2 to on all others off.... 4th can 1+3 on all others off that should give you channel (or DMX addresses) 1,2,3 and 4 if you set all 4 cans to dip 1 on and all others off they should run in a bank on DMX address 1. hope this helps ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:05pm
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Sam, on the 4 separate mode dips, you need dips 1 and 3 on if 3ch DMX used, and 1 and 2 on if 5ch dmx used. This is 3ch or 5ch DMX 'slave' mode basically. I ended up doing a little Dymo label for the back of mine that showed 3ch DMX and standalone mode, as thats all I really use. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:08pm
even better.. this was for the older cans i think, found it on an old post. just let us know which one worked  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:24pm
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There's no separate mode dips. Just a bank of 1-12. I'll try setting them all to D1 up as it's only a basic controller. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:26pm
Such a simple but genius idea that'd save me about 10 minutes each gig lol. |
norty303 wrote:Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:50pm
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Dah-Dah!! http://images.thomann.de/pics/prod/115050_manual_en.pdf
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 1:51pm
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the swear filter is now correcting (or thinks it is) my english..... lady flaps ! lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 2:00pm
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Why there isn't a link from the Thomann page is beyond me. Cheers. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 2:03pm
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i know it drives me nuts too... im sure they would increase their trffic if they did. ..i mean if your manual always linked back to a shop wouldnt you be tempted to have a look around before you left? ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 3:01pm
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and.... just in case like.... android/itune do a dip switch calc. for your fone. yeah never know its a lite app. (no pun intended) ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 4:45pm
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In this case it's not about knowing how to address the fixture (which is relatively simple binary), its how to set the correct mode, which is generally proprietary. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 4:55pm
.. oh i know that. but its nice to be able to do it in reverse wen looking at some one elses system helping them spot faults or wrongly addressed fixtures. as i said its just handy  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 5:55pm
Oh, I know its handy, its been on my phone for years  Problems with LED pars tend to be totally to do with different implementations though, with funny modes on dip 10, or non-standard numbers of dips like 12, or as with mine, 10+4. And you can know how to set binary addresses with your eyes closed, but if you don't know the super-sekrit combo to access the DMX mode, then you're screwed. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 6:17pm
... drinking started early i see lol i use to have a pinboard in my bedroom with bits of card on with "stuff not to forget" it deffo would of gone on there ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 7:03pm
| Still not figured it out. Can anyone read the manual above and tell me.how to get it.into 3ch dmx? Im on a phone here |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 7:30pm
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3ch dmx? do you mean address 3 or the par only uses 3 channels? do as i said and dip 1 on all others off... it will then have address 0001 on your controller and then go nuts ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 8:14pm
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From the manual there appears to be only one dmx mode, which uses 7 channels, selected when dip switches 10, 11 and 12 are set to off. The atributes of the fixture are - 1 - Red 2 - Green 3 - Blue 4 - Macro 5 - Strobe 6 - Mode 7 - Master Dimmer so if your unit is addressed at 1, on your controller you need ch 7 at full to get anything out of the units. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 08 December 2012 at 8:19pm
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh... yeah, didnt see that lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 5:34am
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I gave up in the end as I couldn't get it to work with my cheapo controller (ADJ RGB3C) so just used the dipswitches and stuck them on red. Interesting though that their light ouput isn't any greater than the CPC Pulse Eco Pars. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 12:52pm
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have you tried wacking all the faders up and hitting the auto button? that controller looks a pain in the a$$... im sure its more a missunderstanding of the controller then something wrong with addressing the PAR cans... i just read through the manual. http://www.americandj.com/pdffiles/rgb_3c.pdf wat a pain.... can somebody shed some light here for simplistic use? ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 1:26pm
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also by the looks of things it only controls 1 (bank of) fixture(s) so you'd have to put all the PARs on address (dip 1 on only) and they will all do what ever the controller tells them (or stick it on auto) ... i think... lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 1:35pm
| By the looks of it the controller only controls 3 dmx channels, ch 1 would translate to red, ch 2 green and ch 3 blue. The controller can't put ch 7 (relating to master dimmer) at full so no light will come out of the units. The controller is only designed for 3 ch led units |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 1:44pm
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... but they are packaged with may different PARs of different makes... im guessing there no control on ch7 its just perminantly on full. as iv looked it up and found it in packages with echo's and they are 7ch DMX PARs. i just went with logic and would guess'd. im normally pretty good at guessing ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 1:49pm
They are probably packaged with PARs that can run 3ch RGB mode. I would expect the Echo's can run 'up to' 7 channels of DMX, but also support RGB mode. Otherwise, every package they sold would likely be returned, and retailers don't make that sort of mistake for long. You can assume that if there is no channel 7 on the controller then its value will be zero. P.S. thats quite unusual to find an LED can that won't work in 'lowest common denominator' mode. Even the manual for my Stairville cans covers PAR18, 56 and 64 variants, in 5mm, 10mm and 1W and 3W configs. Not sure why they would deviate from the same controller board if it's a) still in use in other products and b) works. [shrug] ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 2:07pm
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http://www.rsdmusic.com/products.asp?prodid=2560&catid=58&mcatid=8
see what i mean, its not the same controller but it still is a basic 3ch controller none-the-less. i think its more a misunderstanding on how the controller works... hence the reason for saying plug one PAR in set it to address 0001 and hit auto on the controller and see what happens(with all faders up) ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 2:17pm
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i take it allllll back.... those PARs dont do RGB mode so you have an incompatable set-up. sorry. buy another controller ... or PARs that do RGB mode.some times i should just shut up and let norty talk... lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 8:32pm
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Annoying isn't it. For the record it's a great little controller for simple stuff. Set all the cans to the same address, link them up and jobs a good'un for uplighting etc. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 10:23pm
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I won't take the credit for this one as it was provided on Blue room today, but apparently Thomann provide the manual (usually English) on the German language page. So if you change the GB to DE in the addresses bar and scroll down there should be a link to the manual. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 09 December 2012 at 10:43pm
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For the sake of an extra line of code on their site? Gah! |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 10 December 2012 at 8:46am
...thas just racist!!! lol  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |