Looking for new lights
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Topic: Looking for new lights
Posted By: andym
Subject: Looking for new lights
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 7:37pm
| What to get |
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Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 7:37pm
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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 8:05pm
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CP Sharpies :) ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: jamwa
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:05pm
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well what do you want to do live music DJ / dance theatre the options are endless whats your budget... ------------- Sound, Light, Projection, Display, Cameras and production support |
Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:08pm
| Low budget, and somthing to hang off truss above djs head apart from scans |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:17pm
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try and get some martin egos s/h great lights..... small light weight, and bright...... moon flower effect..... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:37pm
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NJD Datamoons. One of the best budget lighting effect ever produced IMO not mine but to show how cheap they can be picked up http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/njd-datamoon-/330877234354?pt=UK_ConElec_LightingLEDsStrobes_RL&hash=item4d09d1ecb2
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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:46pm
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If you do decide to go for a datamoon, the best ones are the oldest ones with 1/4" jack sockets for the DMX. ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 9:58pm
| I just sold some galactic moons. Couldn't get on with them, are the data moons similar |
Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 10:09pm
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Yeah more or less. Theres a few differences, for example datamoons have a 250w lamp rather than the 150w in the galactic moon but otherwise pretty much the same type of effect. I have 5 datamoons and 14 abstract scanners here! ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 11:42am
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Or Martin Destroyers, or for best sound to light Abstract Twister 4's (or a later variant) Steer clear of the Ego's unless you like expensive repairs or replacements of main boards. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 3:14pm
.... and they look crap  ------------- ''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it'' ''Dubstep - an elongated electronic fart'' |
norty303 wrote:Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 3:39pm
| Liking those destroyers |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 5:37pm
| Martin destroyer............now thats a blast from the past! great lights |
Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 5:56pm
| What's the difference between punishers an destroyers? |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:07pm
| Both 250 halogen watt and moon flower types. YouTube it mate. Maybe comes down to optics and colour. Always used them in master and slave mode. |
Posted By: andym
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:13pm
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Sorry I was unclear, I've youtube a them and they look very similar. Just wonder if any one could point the differences out |
Posted By: lgosdset
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:20pm
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I have a load of destroyers, dirt cheap, bright enough, cheap to fix if they go wrong (just buy a load of them and put a couple aside for spare parts) oh and the lamps are not too expensive either. the only thing that can't really be fixed is the stepper motors, sometimes you can give the end bell a wiggle around and they come back to life, but most of the time you need to replace them. The punisher is the same as the destroyer, but it has a 'shake' effect. never used one myself. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:47pm
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What's the going rate for punisher and destroyers? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:57pm
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No idea what the going rate is for them, but I have 6 Destroyers, all in very good cosmetic condition. I may be prepared to let a couple go, how soon would you want them? (I've done my books for this year and could do with not taking any more money before 5th April to keep the tax bill down!) They did Destroyers/Punishers in 2 versions, one with an ELC lamp and one with a fixed reflector and the cheaper M33 capsule lamp. They did a conversion kit at one point. Mine are all M33 versions due to the cheaper lamp costs (and same as the Solar 250 so easier lamp stock to manage) Both Punishers and Destroyers need the lamp relay replacing periodically, it either welds itself closed or open (e.g. lamp always on or doesn't switch on and no click heard when powered up) They're dirt cheap and easy to replace if you can hold a soldering iron without burning your fingers  Destroyers are 5 channel (although I've seen ones which like to have 6 channels when patched) and can run in 1 channel, 5 channel or sound to light mode. Punishers are 6 channel and will run in 1 channel, 6 channel and auto mode (no sound to light!) despite them being based on essentially the same control board. That said, I did have a Punisher that ran sound to light! So there are hacks and bodges and different official versions out there! ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 6:59pm
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Cheers for that norty, I'll drop you a pm ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 10:48pm
very true regarding the ego's a new board is £175.00 more than the units cost new.... Ive binned about 8 now..... down to my last 6....... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 10:53pm
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can you not scan an old board and have them knocked up at 10 a penny and then just buy all componants from ebay or the like and make your own boards? surely the pic/eeprom can be copied and then uploaded to new chips. save your self a packet and keep your lights alive. £175 a board?... surley you could make 4-5 of your own for that price and then 8-10 more for another 175. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 11:10pm
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i never looked into it, the problem is when one part on the board gives up, its like a chain reaction, and you just kepp chasing the faults all over the board..... The ego replaced the destroyer, and this was replaced by the current range..... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 11:23pm
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ooooh!.... just needs better protection i suppose. or better "over-rated" parts. its like wen i get in broken computers.... i end up stripping them rite back and never letting the pc win lol it might be like amps and speakers.... the parts are rated just perfect for the use... when what they really need is head room. i.e not 1/4watt resistors but 1/2 watt ones... not a 70VA transformer but an 800VA one. little things. again im just thinking out loud. try rebuilding one of the working boards as a test with a few choise up-rated components. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 11:34pm
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im sure ive got a board thats buggered under my stairs lol.... happy to post it to you if you wanna take a look..... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 February 2013 at 11:44pm
... sure.... why not. post a quick pic up si i cant see what it plugs into as iv got bugger all test equip. but love a challange. just need to know if it plugs into steppers and the like as i could dummy load it on to one of my old cheap a$$ LED disco lights to see if it bursts into life......  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 12:05am
yes 2 stepper motors and one bulb..... its a basic board with 3 out put stages, 1 for each motor and 1 for the bulb.... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 12:39am
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holy crap!!! ok kinda though the board was gonna be half that size lol... and theres alot of surface mount on there too.... ok i take it back.. shoot it... shoot it in the face!! i'd need full on scmatics for that and a fair few days of testing and retesting... i see why youv just been throwing them out. very cluttered board. have you been running these via DMX? ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 1:51am
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Only the 'X' version Ego's (4,5 and 6 iirc) were DMX controllable. The 1,2 and 3 were just sound to light and linkable with a mini jack lead. From what I've heard the other big proplem with the Ego boards is that they're multilayer PCB's, so there's also a load of internal tracks its difficult to see what's going on with. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 2:02am
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Yup. They are crap. Skip them! ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: whitehousejamie
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 11:33am
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I had a pair of Ego 3's and they both died after a couple of years of occasional use.
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 12:25pm
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I'm liking the beam effect the destroyers an punishers give out hen there's plenty of smoke ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: intensesound
Date Posted: 01 March 2013 at 4:10pm
| have a look at the Lanta cubiod led light but nice output and bright |