Anyone wanna build this ? :P
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Topic: Anyone wanna build this ? :P
Posted By: djstefanos
Subject: Anyone wanna build this ? :P
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 1:34pm
 oooooooo my back
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Posted By: pandobair
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 2:00pm
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What design is it?? Looks heavey indeed! |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 7:46pm
| It is EAW BH822 I THINK. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 7:57pm
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Yes its the EAW....the bertha..... used in big nightclubs like crobar.
It weights 360 pounds!!
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Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 10:22pm
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One can always build a single driver edition.
Didn't Ministry of Sound use some of the Big Berthas?
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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 09 December 2006 at 10:43pm
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Singles could be an interesting option. Still a fairly big box though-1.5m long.
Anyone Know what they sound like/whats the response/sensitivity etc..?
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Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 12:16am
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Band-saw it into quarter sections, and use a 12 in each.
The original will not go through most doorways, nor can it be carried. ------------- djk |
Posted By: Men@work
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 5:51am
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ooooooo i like them...
What driver will work well in these ??
Cheers
Edd ------------- At the end of the day its gets dark!! THEN WE PARTY |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 7:50am
I've heard these cabinets many times. The single ones have been made too called the baby bertha's. The big ones are mean and loud. They sound fierce and angry. They also have a mouth extention. 
Single Ones. Don't be fooled by their size in the photo! they are huge!
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 8:15am
| when we finish our Billfitzmaurice cabinets we're going to sell them and build these instead |
Posted By: unclejam
Date Posted: 10 December 2006 at 12:41pm
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hey how low do they go???
are they fast and punchy??? pm me |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:12am
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It's a W-bin isn't it?
I seem to recall some peeps not liking the sound of a W-bin style sub.
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:49am
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this models puts the W-Bin to shame |
Posted By: specialjustin
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 2:26pm
| Its more like a VW bin |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 3:48pm
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i think i got the plans... what drivers and freq range are they good for??? [not planning on making any was just interested]
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 9:50pm
| ftp://ftp.eaw.com/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/BH_Series/BH882P/BH882iP_datasheet.pdf - ftp://ftp.eaw.com/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/BH_Series/BH882P/BH882iP_datasheet.pdf |
Posted By: unclejam
Date Posted: 11 December 2006 at 10:06pm
| hey there has been some mods cuz what im looking @ say that these will play from 24-300hz ill post the link later |
Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:24pm
| 24Hz, will they really..? |
Posted By: james folkes
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:46pm
i'd have thought they probably would, with the extension piece fitted at any rate. the horn is long enough and the mouth is big enough to get f3 in the 20s... installation only mind you! but yeah, i'd have thought that these would absolutely hoof it out, certainly there are many reports of gary stuart audio installs (of which all the above pictures are examples) possessing absolutely sick bass response, super low, super loud and wonderfully warm and rich. after bunging cabs that big in, you'd kind of hope that was the case, nay, even be shocked and horrified if it were not... james. ------------- mardy hippy. |
jethrocker wrote:Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 4:38pm
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   http://www.boomspeed.com/retrophonic/Bertha2.jpg -  |
Posted By: james folkes
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 5:37pm
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nice work stef, those look amazing! are you planning on emulating the paradise garage in your living room? incidentally, what did you use to do the visualisations, and are you a mac or pc user?
james. ------------- mardy hippy. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 12 December 2006 at 5:51pm
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i found those from another forum. i 'm not a 3D wiz
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:40am
| they do sound wicked!! i want! |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 1:40pm
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24hz??????????hmmmmm yum yum!!! so what available drivers you looking at for them in the diy sector??? must be an expensive box to load..... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 5:33pm
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looks like they were done with either rivet or 3d viz....
any chanceof getting hold of the actual cad files? and some dimensional info on the horn extension?
and possible drivers that could be used.
im def interested! ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:51pm
| got some bad news. i read on another forum, these bins use custom made drivers. but some have used JBL's |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:54pm
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Use of a powerful driver such as the PD1850 etc will more than likely give very good results,I think. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 6:56pm
| WE ARE VERYYY interested in building these. The single ones ofcourse for easy manouvering. We stack em making a the full size. Shouldnt affect the sound. |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:07pm
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The baffle still has me puzzled.
Look at the small drawing of the partial baffle at bottom extreme right of the first post.
The shaded triangle and quadralateral are alcoves that are part of the rear chamber volume?
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:12pm
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i doubt it but if u do build them, u could always try both. just a small modification. These cabinets are original designs of the true "disco" sound from Richard Long Audio.
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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 8:26pm
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From looking at both the baffle diagram and the little 3d sketch in the corner I'd say that they are cut outs to couple the rear chamber with the space to either side of the first horn section-the two triangles on the top view of the cab. Could be wrong as it is confusing.
If that is whats going on, isn't it possible the baffle would be a bit flimsy with so much wood removed around the drivers?
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:44pm
| i though that too. it could be a 2 1/2 inch baffle |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 13 December 2006 at 11:17pm
| Perhaps the six areas(4 triangles & 2 trapezoids) have pieces of ply that are attached to the baffle from behind perpendicularly thus making the seemingly flimsy looking baffle very sturdy. |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 7:57am
| Perhaps someone could calculate the volume of the sealed rear chamber for 2 powerful 18" drivers for this horn using McBeans program. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 9:44am
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it is roughly about 4 cubic feet. Notice the access panels are braced, thats a pretty good indication of the amount of pressure there is in there |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 2:01pm
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im sure that there are drivers that with a few mods [ie rear chamber volume] could work...... pd186/1850.... 18sound 18nd9300 etc etc [not saying they will work, but they may be worth investigating.... maybey the new void driver would be worth a go?????? ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 2:02pm
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any pne got the plans??? cant seem to find them??? oh hang on they might be on dancetech
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 2:57pm
| you can just extract the plan from the drawing |
Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 5:24pm
| I'm convinced they are holes in the baffle board. The 3D sketch shows the shadow through them... |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 6:26pm
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in my experience i think this is what is going on...
the speaker baffle is made up from two parts.
[a] the rectangular section with two smaller rectangular 'ports' similar to the wsx design.
a reinforcing skelington 15mm thick to which the drivers are mounted to.
the drawing is shown in the isometric [fake 3d] view to give you certain dimension which u could otherwise not see
but the 3d view seems to have been cut up during being converted to a tiff... i'll post a drawing to demo what i mean.
------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 6:32pm
 ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 6:38pm
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so the 3d view is supposed to show the rear chamber of the cab.
so that 220 dimension would be this dimension on the full drawing...
 thats how i see it anyway ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 6:42pm
i dont think they are holes. its just the draftsmans way of telling you theres two layers of wood in the drawing.
its just shading i think
edit; check the 3d cad renderings. you can clearly see no cut in the baffle thus proving my point. ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 7:51pm
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http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/index.cfm click on the first download... thats the best plans ive seen for these..... anyone wanna model these up with some readily available drivers that we are likely to come across..... starting to think that a stack of 1/2 versions of these would maybey take on the labs on favorable terms.......... hm c18-650el??? if that worked then wed be right on the money wouldnt we.... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: unclejam
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 9:36pm
| the driver is a rcf but I'm sorry to announce that the driver is discontinued |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 14 December 2006 at 11:21pm
i dont see any plans there on that link but i searched and came up with the same pic i posted plus some external measurements.
http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/pa/plans/bh882p_2d.pdf - http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/pa/plans/bh882p_2d.pdf
http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/pa/eaw_bh_882.cfm - http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/pa/eaw_bh_882.cfm
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Posted By: djtosco
Date Posted: 15 December 2006 at 10:47am
| Someone said me the right driver was a RCF L18/851-KN |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 15 December 2006 at 12:06pm
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Seems like this Model was already discussed
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1499&PN=1 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1499&PN=1
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Posted By: chilli
Date Posted: 18 December 2006 at 10:23am
| it seems that people are talking about two different things, the richard long design bertha and the eaw bin. i dj'ed through 8 of the eaws at heaven a few years back, the sound was soo immense that i saw one kiddy almost reduced to tears by the volume, hands down it was simply the loudest rig i've ever heard. i was on the dancefloor when someone played UR's "seawolf" and when the acid filtered up, no word of a lie, i doubled up and fell over. it was that loud. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 18 December 2006 at 5:45pm
Did they have the mouth extensions or without?
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Posted By: krt_tomi
Date Posted: 20 December 2006 at 5:49pm
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Heavy indeed.It`s an old design made by Electro-Voice TL4050.You'll find the plans on Ev`s site.I don`t belive anyone is crazy enough to build this! http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Builders%20Plans/TL4050%20Builders%20Plans.pdf ------------- KamiKaze Racing Team Baia-Mare |
Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 5:35am
| im crazy enough to build 4 actually, but i wouldnt have the means to store and transport them. otherwise if be up for it! |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 5:12pm
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what was the name of the club installer who builds these? i lost the web page..GWA associates or something? American company i think. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 25 December 2006 at 8:57pm
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JBL MAN: You should check out Wavemusic.com click on Community. They have a tech section that might be up your alley.There is a Shorty that uses the Berthas in high profile club installs.He comes on the forum sometimes.
I see that Tony Andrews from Funktion One is interviewed about club installs in this tech section.
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Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 5:58am
| JBL MAN: I think the company you're thinking of is GSA Associates.(Gary Stewart) |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:23am
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http://www.GSANY.com - www.GSANY.com There are also 3 more companies.
This cab was originally designed by Richarld Long Associates.
http://www.phazonsound.com - www.phazonsound.com
http://www.systemsbyshorty.com - www.systemsbyshorty.com
the other i cant remember.
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 26 December 2006 at 10:28pm
| http://www.integralsound.net/ - http://www.integralsound.net/ |
Posted By: chilli
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 10:22am
| tbh i dont remember if they had the horn extensions or not, i remember there was a stack of 4 at each end of the dancefloor, 2 high, 2 wide, they stood at least 8 feet high and probably about 12-15 ft wide. never seen any bins like it. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 27 December 2006 at 3:27pm
yea bloody monsters
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Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:34am
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This is a much better horn than the EV TL 4050, and it will go through a 32" doorway too. http://www.google.com/patents?id=-2s2AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false - http://www.google.com/patents?id=-2s2AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat4210223.pdf - The response curve given if for one cabinet in 4Pi (free space), two in 2Pi (a ground stack) will have about 6dB more output.99dB/10 ft = 108.7dB/1M
The Fc of the horn is about 32hz, one in 4Pi is useable to 38hz.
The T/S parameters on the woofers are:
Fs=31hz
Qms=10
Qes=0.26
Qts=0.25
Vas=295L ------------- djk |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 12:47am
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if anyone is interested. a pair for sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110072866064&rd=1&rd=1 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110072866064&rd=1&rd=1
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Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:00am
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haha, 'will ship world wide' imagine the cost of getting them to the UK. ------------- 
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Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:08am
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I notice the JBL drivers decal say 2241HPL.
I've got some 2241s and they are labelled as 2241H.
I wonder what's the diff ?
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 1:43pm
a cousin of mine runs a garage here in the UK and is always shipping containerloads of cars over! got a large 1ton genny shipped from his american depot to dover for £30! just slapped it inbetween the two cars in there already (short cars leave space, and he pays be container up to xtons so didnt cost him a thing. the £30 was taxes and loading/unloaded fee's! so if i were really say and he was near enough to these i could get them shipped ... altho i could easily build some myself using the plans and then search down the drivers .... much much MUCH easier! |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 2:06pm
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notice they are on crates.
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 3:29pm
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Yep, and notice the strapping cutting into the wood where they haven't put reinforcement or load spreading material. Prob be much worse once its been moved around a bit too. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:36am
| yea they dont seem to give much of a s*** about them. pity |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 12:42am
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They used plastic strapping.Metal would have made things worst. |
Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 7:10am
| surely using a ratchet satrap would have been better maybe? the fabric doesnt damage the wood too easily i think! either way these things are beasts and look like fun to use in anger in a small room of pill heads!! |
Posted By: Racks&Stacks
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 7:14am
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I heard and helped install those subs for a few years, but sadly cant remember how they sounded or felt anymore due to so many different subs in another place in the world. Perhaps not perfect with the t/s parameters, these boxes were commonly loaded with eminence omega, jbl 2241, and jbl 2242. Richard Long came up with the original bertha sub with larry levan horn extension flare and alter worked with eaw to explain the bh sub. I worked with Steve Dash of then phazon, now integral. He specced 2242s and macro 5k amps. Most were installs, but we had to move those f**kers up ramped stairs once - that really sucked. A number of people had access to some sort of version of hte plans. Throats had changed, etc. Over the years, the guys offered in those links changed a few things around to accomodate specific drivers better. |
Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 1:22pm
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"I notice the JBL drivers decal say 2241HPL. I've got some 2241s and they are labelled as 2241H. I wonder what's the diff ?"
PL is 'private label', and are stripper models. No name plate, no rubber tire around the magnet, sometimes no paint on the frame. If you check the service replacement parts prices, you can save a fair amount by buying the PL versions. ------------- djk |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 30 December 2006 at 9:15am
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Hey DJK: I thought that PL stood for "plays longer".hee hee!!!
Thanks dude.
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 6:16am
i agree the PL are the OEM versions to fit in makers cabinets,but i allways thought the "H" as in 2241H was the 8 ohm version,the "J" was the 16 ohm varient...the rarer "G" was the 4 ohm varient.
DJK,maybe u can help me,why is almost every E145 i have ever seen is the stripper model,without the tire,and the rear nameplate? did they supply a lot of these factory-fitted in cabs? cos i cant think of any cab that had these as standard,as they were one of the most expensive 15" ever made.
Edit.spelling. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 01 January 2007 at 7:25am
| Yes,the G,H or J stood for nominal impedance of 4,8,16 ohms respectively. |
Posted By: puffah
Date Posted: 02 January 2007 at 11:42pm
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I'm sure you all noticed but the driver speck was RCF-L18-851KN For what EAW was using. As far as the baffel there are 2 baffles one has a square cut out of it to start the horn. The second is used to make the baffel thicker and to space the driver back so that it doesn't hit the first baffel when being played.... At least thats what I see from the plans. ------------- vicious bass since 1988 
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Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 03 January 2007 at 9:00am
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hmmmm how would you modell these???? pd186 miight be a bet....... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 03 January 2007 at 10:27am
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"almost every E145 i have ever seen is the stripper model"
I've never seen a PL version of the E145, I have four of the full dress ones.
There was a period of time when all the theater series complete speakers came with the E145, and would have the PL version. Also the 4627 Cabaret.
Large sound companies could order PL versions for their own designs as
well.
http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1980-pro/page10.jpg - http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1980-pro/page10.jpg
http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1980-pro/page11.jpg - http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/jbl/catalogs/1980-pro/page11.jpg ------------- djk |
Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 06 January 2007 at 3:14pm
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hello from me :) i love this sub bass cabinet and i need full plan for this pic tell me for range frequency and spl i use in bigest room
i sorry for my languidg i am bulgarian crazy boy :)) for high spl with low Frequency
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 06 January 2007 at 10:01pm
| Theres no full plan of this cabinet. You may want to ask EAW but they will not give it to you. period. Why do you want this? Do you know how big and heavy it is? |
Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 12:08am
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YHEA. I KNOW THIS , but i need low-bass cabinet and i build 1/2 box with one 18" pd 1850 . this driver
1:work with power amp , i have 700w/8 ohm
2:work in compression bass horn
3: this is the best :)
do you build this box or just project on paper:)?
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Posted By: unclejam
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 12:17am
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@ madboy
this is not the best you would com out a hell of alot cheaper by building something like a lab sub wich will do 25-200 depending on your set of plans and it will mate with your amp just purdy and its a hell of alot lighter plus you will be happy with the results |
Posted By: tommysb
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 1:51pm
| Hehe Bulgarian Crazy boy! I've just come back from Bulgaria, nice country! :) |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 07 January 2007 at 7:09pm
No i never built this and i dont want to...lol. It weighs about 370 pounds. Its used for nightclub installations. Enjoy carrying that!
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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 12:41am
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ok. :)
today i see this
http://i2.tinypic.com/sq7677.gif">
 more cheap , simple
and good parameters
i use in rooms , a big rooms ?
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Posted By: gingerbiscuit69
Date Posted: 08 January 2007 at 1:27pm
| not being funny mate, but simply take the design name, and search for it. i know theres threads about its uses, build pic's, reviews, technical theory of it ect.... |
Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 6:07am
should work well we build lots of those, and we made the plans  ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 9:44am
i heard these in 1990 when the ministry first opened and i still say they are the best bins i have ever heard , with the barn doors that is
they later changed them to rcf 18'' 200kn's and sounded even lower but not as musical
djsteph are you sure thats the same bin thats in paradise garage and ministry etc etc
i have had that drwaing for ages and didnt realise that, that was the same bin
i was told when they were doing the MS fit that they were a 1920's cinema bin by Paul klipsh (klipshorn)? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 09 January 2007 at 8:07pm
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gemini have a powered box xtr400 like these and they sound good lol
very suprising sound for a cheap speaker and box and amp ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |
Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:12am
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hello from me:) i need help for calculate this plan for use another 18" speaker i mean 18sound 18lw1400 how calculate at bass-reflex or not? |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 11 January 2007 at 2:28pm
The original design was by Richard Long. When he died EAW copied him, and some other companies too.
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Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 29 January 2007 at 10:45am
| I heard 4 of them during the weekend. Nothing special. I dont think they were pushed to the max. Probably not even half so I dont really have a definate review. |
Posted By: james folkes
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 11:23am
4 berthas? 4 mini berthas? 4 planar wave horns?... this threads got a bit tangled so i'm not sure which ones you're talking about... james. ------------- mardy hippy. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 5:32pm
| sorry for the long reply. It was an EAW system. 1 Double 18 bertha with no mouth extension in each corner along with a Quad jbl reflex box on top. 2 mid and high horns on top, i believe they are the BH series. They look like porn horns. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 03 February 2007 at 11:38pm
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they sound just ok without the barn door's
but with at full power they do the biz
but i'll piss on it with 4 of my DUBSUB'S i know its not 2 x 18's and not 4 but they would be smaller and no big barn door's to carry around
the Big Bertha's are all over Singapore, there in 3 club's that i know of in 1 a mile radius
but they will be looking for something new soon  ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 1:09am
| yes, they are old, heavy beasts |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 6:42am
| Would love to hear 4 berthas clustered together. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 7:15am
 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 04 February 2007 at 7:56am
There u go
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 2:51am
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@ djstefanos
they are an incredible distinctive sound
you cant beat a large efficiant horn bass, that sub is just awesome
when the MS London first opened me and a friend had heard about these bin's, so we thought ..ok! let's go have a listen
we went into the main room and stood between to berthas
looked at each other and thought ..whats all the fuss about
then it hit us like a truck, booooom, i have never experianced sub like that before, it was such a treat let me tell you
it was massaging our hole body, there was a point when it went really low then dissapeared then came back lower, me and my mate looked at each other in horror
 ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: djstefanos
Date Posted: 02 March 2007 at 2:29pm
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Seems like EV have also used this design http://archives.telex.com/archives/EV/Builders%20Plans/TL4050%20Builders%20Plans.pdf |